Poll: hopefully disproving my mom in her theory that This forum is a bunch of Nazis...

[Drareg]

She is white so no. Idk she just very god damn authoritarian I guess. She thinks that Anything that doesnt align must be something bad. Dont wanna hate on my mom tho other than these sorts of topics shes great.

Middle class academic whites are the biggest pushers of wokism, it’s a for profit industry, everything gets labeled nazi like these days, it’s lexicon is spilling over into everyday life, pop culture is riddled with it.

 

[Cloudhands]

Third generation Ashkenazi too but I'm not wild about modern Social Marxist values...
But I get where you are coming from. But in the end just let them talk, it is only the internet

I think that being wild about any "values" other than being a kind and awesome human being is going to strip people of their identity and autonomy. A big part of peat's view that i agree with is anti authoritarianism. So like i dont go around identifying as a jew and "behaving" as one, i just think its my place to be an example and to show people that overgeneralizations and stereotypes are ignorant ways to view the world. But yeah its important not to let it bother me too much, therell always be people who dont like other people.

 

[Regina]

I think the Ray Peat forum is the epitome of anti Nazi science.

 

[GelatinGoblin]

Man idk but your view on it seems underdeveloped, if you have an underdeveloped view you are much easier to be subjected to accepting an actually harmful view

 

[pro marker]

Hi, my mom thinks I get my diet theories from a bunch of Nazis. Is this true?

Are you a Nazi? lol

ask her if shes a pedophile since globalists tend to be pedophiles and thats obviously the people who instilled this idea in her head.

 

[MrGilbert]

I clicked 'I don't know' because its not clear what this word even means any more. What's your mothers definition? At this point it just seems like an anti-white slur for anyone that opposes communism.

 

[kyle]

I wouldnt call anyone i dislike an antisemite. For example i dislike ben shapiro, but itd be pretty hard to call him an antisemite.

You won't label a hardcore Jewish ethnocentrist an anti-semite?

Well that settles it.

 

[Cloudhands]

You won't label a hardcore Jewish ethnocentrist an anti-semite?

Well that settles it.

Lol i mean you said anyone we dont like we label as antisemites! I dont like lots of people but dont label them as antisemites, i just had to give the most obvious example so that even u would get it :p i just think the argument "this whole group of people has a habit of generalizing people" is a bit hipocritical, but im not gonna do mental gymnastics to explain that to anyone. I think if someone was smart enough to understand my point, it wouldnt have to be explained to them to begin with haha

 

[Cloudhands]

I clicked 'I don't know' because its not clear what this word even means any more. What's your mothers definition? At this point it just seems like an anti-white slur for anyone that opposes communism.

Its a political party, and their defining trait is their hatred for jews, which is most likely what his mom was referring to, based on the fact that there are many people on this forum who dislike jews! Lol.

 

[MrGilbert]

Its a political party, and their defining trait is their hatred for jews, which is most likely what his mom was referring to, based on the fact that there are many people on this forum who dislike jews! Lol.

Okay but that political party dissolved 75 years ago, so by that definition Nazis no longer exist.

 

[Cloudhands]

Okay but that political party dissolved 75 years ago, so by that definition Nazis no longer exist.

Well it should be easy for someone then to say "no im not a nazi", and im sure shes calling people who are racist or anti-semetic nazi, based on their unifying traits. This isnt mental rocket science guys, no need to complexify what she meant when its easy for someone with half a brain to understand

 

[yerrag]

This forum isn't anti any race. It is anti propaganda which means it's anti-lying. It can't be anti-semite because it can't also be anti-white, anti-black, anti-Asian, anti-Hispanic or what not.

It may appear to be anti-semite because when the topic is about war and peace, and about economic opportunities and about law and order and about the right to free speech and the right to bear arms for defense, there is this group of elites that is very much identified with rich Zionists, of Jewish blood, that has an interest in making it hard to achieve goals for the common good because they have their own narrow self-interests.

Calling people anti-semites isn't helpful because that is acting in lockstep with the Zionists who prefer not to be called out. To become an anti-semite according to their definition of anti-semitism is to tell people to not call out these Zionists.
To be not anti-semite, by their definition, means to allow Zionists to do as they please as they continue to do things to exercise more power and have control over how the government serves the people, which is basically at best nothing as the government ends up always serving the Zionist elites.

@Cloudhands are you denying that such dynamic doesn't exist?

If the Zionists were Hispanics, would criticizing Zionists amount to being anti-Hispanic?

Just because you're Jewish does not make you complicit with the Zionists. It's been made clear, and yet you persist in being a victim yourself by insisting thst some people here are anti-semites.

There are Jews in this forum who are not in favor of the actions and attitudes of Zionists. Just because they are Jewish does not make them any different from non-Jews. They are just as lacking in anti-semitism as non-Jews are.

Don't try to divide this forum by making this distinction which does not exist.

 

[MrGilbert]

Well it should be easy for someone then to say "no im not a nazi",

It should be easy to stop calling whites " Nazis ". Why should we have to explain we're not part of a nonexistent political party?

 

[michael94]

a lot of skeptic people, not just on the RPF but all over the internet, fall into the antisemitic camp. It's a shame because Ray's actual views are the complete opposite. Ray despises nazism, racism, fascism, eugenics, genetic differences. Nazism is basically as anti- Ray peat as it gets.

Only if you believe everything about WW2 history that Ray does. For example he thinks the Holocaust happened and likely other nonsense attributed to Nazis. Hard to view the Third Reich with any seriousness after that premise.

 

[MyUsernameHere]

I'm interested in diet, fitness, personal improvement, and I question the mainstream narrative on a lot of things.

By today's standards, this makes me the Oberstgruppenführer of the Schutzstaffel.

 

[LeeLemonoil]

Its a political party, and their defining trait is their hatred for jews, which is most likely what his mom was referring to, based on the fact that there are many people on this forum who dislike jews! Lol.

That’s definitely not the defining trait of the original Nazi Party if your refer to them.

It’s the defining trait of Adolf Hitler, who was a pathological murderer and projected and combined his bloodlust and psychiatric derangement with his resentment and hatred towards Jews.

You could legitimately say that the SS became the Nazi-Party ofshoot or branch thar imcorporated hate if jews into their ideology as a core part, but the Nationalsozialisten weren’t about jews in any specific ways. Some made the connection between jews and socialism as an ideological focal point later on, but that was influenced by Hitler as well.


That’s not to defend the Nazi Party mind.
But to be more precise historically and show how easy we misjudge thins we think we know enough about.

That’s the big pity that is so unfeasibky regrettable and is still not ease to stand as a German:
That Hitler and a few others managed to put their sick mordlust and extinction fantasies towards Jews and other groups into action with millions of Germans then helping along. When Hitler came into power, Germans weren’t anti-Semitic in any special way, in fact, it was one of the most tolerant societies. Sounds crazy but it is fact.
At some point, many were willing to please the Führer because he Did so many other great things, let’s grant him his „spleen“ and others buyer into the anti-Semitic propaganda and became so.


Should constitute a warning to all people everywhere everytime:
You can live in a liberal, tolerant society - and that can be turned into authoritarian hell in a short period by propaganda and manipulation.

Sounds familiar?

 

[michael94]

That’s definitely not the defining trait of the original Nazi Party if your refer to them.

It’s the defining trait of Adolf Hitler, who was a pathological murderer and projected and combined his bloodlust and psychiatric derangement with his resentment and hatred towards Jews.

You could legitimately say that the SS became the Nazi-Party ofshoot or branch thar imcorporated hate if jews into their ideology as a core part, but the Nationalsozialisten weren’t about jews in any specific ways. Some made the connection between jews and socialism as an ideological focal point later on, but that was influenced by Hitler as well.


That’s not to defend the Nazi Party mind.
But to be more precise historically and show how easy we misjudge thins we think we know enough about.

That’s the big pity that is so unfeasibky regrettable and is still not ease to stand as a German:
That Hitler and a few others managed to put their sick mordlust and extinction fantasies towards Jews and other groups into action with millions of Germans then helping along. When Hitler came into power, Germans weren’t anti-Semitic in any special way, in fact, it was one of the most tolerant societies. Sounds crazy but it is fact.
At some point, many were willing to please the Führer because he Did so many other great things, let’s grant him his „spleen“ and others buyer into the anti-Semitic propaganda and became so.


Should constitute a warning to all people everywhere everytime:
You can live in a liberal, tolerant society - and that can be turned into authoritarian hell in a short period by propaganda and manipulation.

Sounds familiar?

Yea sounds familiar. Heard of Ursula Haverbeck?

 

[Teres]

Should and can something that's not proven be disproven?

Although it's possible the forum to give different vibes to new visitors depending on when they land here, i.e what are the hottest topics at the home page in a given moment. Tons of useful knowledge, so much contribution from people who know their stuff, but also plenty of bull**** from people who may not have a clue why they are here. Of course it's normal topics to branch out, or just have some fresh air discussing music, sport or some off topic stuff from time to time, but sometimes things get a bit..lets say strange. If I'm first time visitor and the first topics I land on are about someone's quest to grow a **** and how jesuits run the universe, I'd have weird first impression too. I had the luck to pay this forum a first visit long time ago.

 

[Grischbal]

I think that being wild about any "values" other than being a kind and awesome human being is going to strip people of their identity and autonomy. A big part of peat's view that i agree with is anti authoritarianism.

But there are people who upkeep their tradition and culture but they are usually subject to a government made up of people who dislike them.
If people do not pay respect to Nations then why do we just no dissolve them completly if people dont identify with them?

 

[BrianF]

The great thing about this forum, like most forums, is that you don't actually have to read the threads about NWO, Politics or anything else. In fact, these posts make up a tiny proportion of all posts on here. There are far too many threads discussing health for anyone to credibly accuse the forum members of being anything other than people whose primary interest and concerns are massively weighted around health and biology.

Now I'm putting my jack boots on, grabbing my timeless, lapelled Hugo Boss black blazer with respondentred flash insignia and heading off out to enforce my heerenvolks agenda.