jitsmonkey
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+1Thus the panic spreads...
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+1Thus the panic spreads...
You're changing too much at a time in my opinion. How on earth are you going to find a comfortable and healthy status quo while you're micromanaging and guessworking your diet to a high degree.
Did you eat the broccoli and eggs because you enjoyed them? If you did then I promise they were doing you some good. Cod is an okay source of iodine but often times you need more. There is sometimes a higher iodine need be it due to infection or chlorine exposure during a time of undereating or low iodine intake.
All I can share are my own experiences which can succinctly be put in two points:
1. Your dietary theorising and fear based approach almost always leads to deeper metabolic problems. Even if short term symptomatic relief is found. Cravings and intuition with some minimal supplementation will get you far closer to something akin to sustainable health.
2. For me, iodine needs are occasionally higher (I'm guessing because of periods of undereating combined with tons of chlorinated water... Years of this). Your diet right now is not sustainable. Greens and vitamin A mean I sometimes need more iodine. Organic dairy is lower in iodine, also so that might be a factor.
If you do nothing else then just remove the broccoli for a week and eat how you used to!! I'm sure you'll feel better.
This forum is full of sick and orthorexic people. Don't forget that. It does not discount their humanity and intelligence but it certainly skews the view of what's healthy with regard to diet and lifestyle - sickness aligns to a fear based approach sadly. Health does not.
It may not be one nutrient causing this. It may be food allergies. Do you know how to muscle test yourself? It isn't as accurate as someone testing you but can help. Our brains can sometimes get in the way but the body knows what it doesn't like and will tell you if you ask it properly.Hi again.
It's very difficult to steer away from a fear-based approach right now. My body is failing me and if I put the wrong things in, it will further deteriorate.
I truly believe that my elimination-based approach is the best thing I can do right now.
If I got to eat whatever I wanted, I'd for example keep eating lots and lots of eggs, but that would kill me. Just eating four(4) eggs made the pain in my side much, much worse when wakening up the next morning.
A month ago, I went in for an ultrasound and they did not find any scarring, portal hypertension or signs of fatty liver. This gives me hope that I can get back to normal without any permanent damage. I just have to take this step-by-step. First thing I'm trying is eliminating vitamin A, and if that doesn't work..I don't rly know.
Hi again.
It's very difficult to steer away from a fear-based approach right now. My body is failing me and if I put the wrong things in, it will further deteriorate.
I truly believe that my elimination-based approach is the best thing I can do right now.
If I got to eat whatever I wanted, I'd for example keep eating lots and lots of eggs, but that would kill me. Just eating four(4) eggs made the pain in my side much, much worse when wakening up the next morning.
A month ago, I went in for an ultrasound and they did not find any scarring, portal hypertension or signs of fatty liver. This gives me hope that I can get back to normal without any permanent damage. I just have to take this step-by-step. First thing I'm trying is eliminating vitamin A, and if that doesn't work..I don't rly know.
Get a duodenoscopy man. This is reckless.Hi again.
It's very difficult to steer away from a fear-based approach right now. My body is failing me and if I put the wrong things in, it will further deteriorate.
I truly believe that my elimination-based approach is the best thing I can do right now.
If I got to eat whatever I wanted, I'd for example keep eating lots and lots of eggs, but that would kill me. Just eating four(4) eggs made the pain in my side much, much worse when wakening up the next morning.
A month ago, I went in for an ultrasound and they did not find any scarring, portal hypertension or signs of fatty liver. This gives me hope that I can get back to normal without any permanent damage. I just have to take this step-by-step. First thing I'm trying is eliminating vitamin A, and if that doesn't work..I don't rly know.
Get a duodenoscopy man. This is reckless.
Hi again.
It's very difficult to steer away from a fear-based approach right now. My body is failing me and if I put the wrong things in, it will further deteriorate.
I truly believe that my elimination-based approach is the best thing I can do right now.
If I got to eat whatever I wanted, I'd for example keep eating lots and lots of eggs, but that would kill me. Just eating four(4) eggs made the pain in my side much, much worse when wakening up the next morning.
A month ago, I went in for an ultrasound and they did not find any scarring, portal hypertension or signs of fatty liver. This gives me hope that I can get back to normal without any permanent damage. I just have to take this step-by-step. First thing I'm trying is eliminating vitamin A, and if that doesn't work..I don't rly know.
What you're mentioning could just be impaired fat digestion or just impaired digestion in general.
Many people have issues with egg whites. See if you get the same issue with yolks.
I was on roaccutane for 6 months and didn't ever have to go on a vitamin A avoidance diet.
It's a missing rate limiting cofactor, not vitamin A, i promise.
If your natural cravings lead you to avoid vitamin A that's fine, but don't avoid foods you crave and enjoy because of this. I see the attitude you currently have absolutely ruin people so often. Myseld included!
Do you ever have dry or watery eyes?
Do you have the little half moons on your finger nails?
Stupid advice like this decrying restrictive dieting almost always comes from people who have never had to deal with debilitating illness. It is very ironic too because you're giving very specific advice in this thread.You're changing too much at a time in my opinion. How on earth are you going to find a comfortable and healthy status quo while you're micromanaging and guessworking your diet to a high degree.
Did you eat the broccoli and eggs because you enjoyed them? If you did then I promise they were doing you some good. Cod is an okay source of iodine but often times you need more. There is sometimes a higher iodine need be it due to infection or chlorine exposure during a time of undereating or low iodine intake.
All I can share are my own experiences which can succinctly be put in two points:
1. Your dietary theorising and fear based approach almost always leads to deeper metabolic problems. Even if short term symptomatic relief is found. Cravings and intuition with some minimal supplementation will get you far closer to something akin to sustainable health.
2. For me, iodine needs are occasionally higher (I'm guessing because of periods of undereating combined with tons of chlorinated water... Years of this). Your diet right now is not sustainable. Greens and vitamin A mean I sometimes need more iodine. Organic dairy is lower in iodine, also so that might be a factor.
If you do nothing else then just remove the broccoli for a week and eat how you used to!! I'm sure you'll feel better.
This forum is full of sick and orthorexic people. Don't forget that. It does not discount their humanity and intelligence but it certainly skews the view of what's healthy with regard to diet and lifestyle - sickness aligns to a fear based approach sadly. Health does not.
Ray Peat dislikes fish oil because of the reactive PUFA, so stopping the supplementation of that would be one of the top recommendations on this site.
Ray Peat is not a fan of beta carotene or lots of eggs either, so cutting down on broccoli, sweet potato and eggs is fine too.
Unlike Sunraiser, I'm not sure we can trust our cravings. The addict can crave toxins when he first reduces the dose.
Maybe take more notice if you crave something you haven't had for a few months...
The chronometer attachment on the previous page has 100% RDA vitamin A at 3000 IU.
Nutritiondata currently has 100% RDA vitamin A at 5000 IU!
Stupid advice like this decrying restrictive dieting almost always comes from people who have never had to deal with debilitating illness. It is very ironic too because you're giving very specific advice in this thread.
I've come to the conclusion that I'm suffering from hypervitaminosis A, given my reaction to foodstuffs such as liver, eggs, sweet potatoes, spinach, etc. as well as elevated ALT. Eating any of these foods or others with high amounts of any sort of vitamin A worsens my symptoms. It's come to the point where I can't sleep on my left side as my lower-right quadrant is too tight and makes breathing difficult.
What are the nutrients necessary to mobilize retinol from liver tissue?
From what I've gathered, zinc is THE major component to consider, given that it increases the activity of RBP - retinol-binding-protein. If one were to have both supplemental zinc and copper in supply, what amounts and ratio ought to be used?
Are there any other minerals or vitamins to keep track of to drive out all of the excess retinyl esters making my life hell???
Why stay away from Vit e supplements?
What are your symptoms, Albina?How long does it take to recover from hypervitaminosis A? I used Retin A 0.1% daily for 15 years. Never realized that my symptoms could possibly been from vitamin A toxicity. I have not used the product for 4 months because I ran out and never refilled it.
Dry, rough skin. Pressure in head with tinnitus. Peeling/cracked nails. Hair loss. I realize these are symptoms that could be associated with other conditions but this thread made me think of all those years of Retin A use. I will cut back on foods high in A or carotene. Does it take months or years to deplete your body from excess?What are your symptoms, Albina?
Could be, and I think retinol best explains the slight increase in cancer observed in prospective β-carotene trials.Hi @Albina,
The wikipedia article on vitamin A lists the highest sources. Cod Liver Oil is the worst. I think Peat blames the dog cancer effects of Cod Liver Oil on PUFA! Could he be looking at the wrong poison?