Health and Diet - One Radio Network, 2014

[narouz]

Re: Ray Peat Interview - One Radio Network

I agree, Mittir.
You mentioned "facts."
I happened to be listening to a rather obscure (but very good!) Peat interview,
"World PUJA."
The host asked Peat if there was such a thing as a "scientific fact."
Peat replied:

"People mean different things when they say a "fact."
But I think there is such a thing as a fact,
which is the experience,
the actual substance that is perceived.
But then we live in a world of meaning,
and those perceptions...
it's sort of like the Gestalt Theory illustrations--
they have pictures of ambiguous figures,
profiles and a face,
or a young girl and an old hag--
in which some people will see one picture
and the others will see the other.
That process of imposing meaning on those experiential facts--
you can have an absolutely clear experience and event,
then different people will interpret it
and impose their meaning on it differently.
And that is where science becomes very much like [couldn't make out] I was studying in linguistics.
We live in a universe of meanings,
which for most people is nothing but the culture and language
that they grew up knowing.
So an ant and I can experience a similar situation,
and I will tend to agree with the ant
more than I'll agree with a biologist or a physicist."

 

[j.]

Re: Ray Peat Interview - One Radio Network

narouz, we were eager for the reports on your T3-only experiment. what happened?

 

[Mittir]

Re: Ray Peat Interview - One Radio Network

@narouz
RP studied psychology, linguistics,fine arts,biology and he also taught a
course " Physics for biology". I am quite impressed by his understanding
of physics. Biologists are usually not that good in physics.
He is a very different kind of scientist.
I think in that quote , he is talking about people from linguist's point of view.
Most people do not have open mind, even people who studies
advanced science. He is talking about people, not the science.
But,there are brilliant people in every discipline.
Not every one trained in science has a scientific mind.
But one can not become scientist without proper training.
He sometime talks in philosophical tone, which can confuse some people.
When he says question everything, that does not mean a person
who barely understand high school level science start
questioning a PhD level work without having prerequisite knowledge.

 

[4peatssake]

Re: Ray Peat Interview - One Radio Network

It's a brilliant statement by Ray, suitable to every discipline. Science does not have a monopoly on the truth, and has failed miserably in its pursuit.

So an ant and I can experience a similar situation, and I will tend to agree with the ant more than I'll agree with a biologist or a physicist."

Makes perfect sense since unlike the biologist or physicist, the ant views the experience with complete clarity, free of the authoritarian culture and preconceived notions the other two are riddled with.

Reminds me of a Rumi quote.

Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and right doing there is a field. I'll meet you there.