Re: Ray Peat Interview - One Radio Network
I agree, Mittir.
You mentioned "facts."
I happened to be listening to a rather obscure (but very good!) Peat interview,
"World PUJA."
The host asked Peat if there was such a thing as a "scientific fact."
Peat replied:
"People mean different things when they say a "fact."
But I think there is such a thing as a fact,
which is the experience,
the actual substance that is perceived.
But then we live in a world of meaning,
and those perceptions...
it's sort of like the Gestalt Theory illustrations--
they have pictures of ambiguous figures,
profiles and a face,
or a young girl and an old hag--
in which some people will see one picture
and the others will see the other.
That process of imposing meaning on those experiential facts--
you can have an absolutely clear experience and event,
then different people will interpret it
and impose their meaning on it differently.
And that is where science becomes very much like [couldn't make out] I was studying in linguistics.
We live in a universe of meanings,
which for most people is nothing but the culture and language
that they grew up knowing.
So an ant and I can experience a similar situation,
and I will tend to agree with the ant
more than I'll agree with a biologist or a physicist."
I agree, Mittir.
You mentioned "facts."
I happened to be listening to a rather obscure (but very good!) Peat interview,
"World PUJA."
The host asked Peat if there was such a thing as a "scientific fact."
Peat replied:
"People mean different things when they say a "fact."
But I think there is such a thing as a fact,
which is the experience,
the actual substance that is perceived.
But then we live in a world of meaning,
and those perceptions...
it's sort of like the Gestalt Theory illustrations--
they have pictures of ambiguous figures,
profiles and a face,
or a young girl and an old hag--
in which some people will see one picture
and the others will see the other.
That process of imposing meaning on those experiential facts--
you can have an absolutely clear experience and event,
then different people will interpret it
and impose their meaning on it differently.
And that is where science becomes very much like [couldn't make out] I was studying in linguistics.
We live in a universe of meanings,
which for most people is nothing but the culture and language
that they grew up knowing.
So an ant and I can experience a similar situation,
and I will tend to agree with the ant
more than I'll agree with a biologist or a physicist."