Finally Cured From Post Finasteride Syndrome

[TheBeard]

Re started HCG after a 1-month pause. I am also taking 25/50mg of Proviron with it, I started today.

I'll keep everyone updated. I'll be using TUDCA with it. Any other tips?

Good protocole, keep us updated.

 

[Mister]

Interesting article about HCG:

The Mysteries Of HCG & It's Many Uses - The Men’s Health Clinic

“You don’t need hCG unless you’re trying to conceive” bellows the endocrinologist. “There is no evidence to suggest a man should ever use a female...

themenshealthclinic.co.uk

 

[Vicecaz]

What dose

As before. 250IU 3 Mo-Wed-Fri

 

[outcast1979]

Endotoxins.
You're new on here, read more on them.

They are the source of all health issues.
To heal: antibiotics and no fiber / starch diet.

Thank you for the information,also you suggest desmodium,the irony here is that i found a video on yt about a guy that had pssd,and in his list he suggested desmodium as one of the ingredients for curing his pssd.

 

[Coltcool]

Hey, my headaches have been really bad should I take an Advil? Also I feel worse all over again and have nausea now

 

[TheBeard]

Hey, my headaches have been really bad should I take an Advil? Also I feel worse all over again and have nausea now

Never.
Only aspirin is acceptable.

 

[Ideal man]

The nerve issues have continued to get worse. It feels like I'm covered In sunburn. I don't want to die, but I don't want to live like this anymore.

Did you ever get any better? im dealing with this and i feel like pure hell

 

[Coltcool]

Did you ever get any better? im dealing with this and i feel like pure hell

Yes, it got better. It isn’t bad now. Now I get it randomly and it doesn’t hurt as bad definitely not as bad as before.

 

[Ideal man]

Yes, it got better. It isn’t bad now. Now I get it randomly and it doesn’t hurt as bad definitely not as bad as before.

What did you use to help it

 

[Coltcool]

Nothing helped ): I just tried to sleep and wore long clothes during the day and at night to prevent further sensitivity

 

[Coltcool]

Make sure you get plenty of vitamin b12 and healthy fats

 

[Ideal man]

Make sure you get plenty of vitamin b12 and healthy fats

Would vitamin A high dose be any good?

 

[Coltcool]

But at the moment idk if there is much else you can do, you could try going to the doctors but mine didn’t do anything about it

 

[Ideal man]

But at the moment idk if there is much else you can do, you could try going to the doctors but mine didn’t do anything about it

I don't even bother with Drs they never listen or care you can have a T level of 250 and they'll say oh its normal yeah for a 90yr old maybe

 

[Coltcool]

Ya, all I’ve seen so far have been worthless ?

 

[sladerunner69]

The Primal diet is the answer to everything.
However, it's hard to stick to.

The primal diet is essentially ketogenic correct? What do you think of Ray's view as glycogenesis being superior to ketosis?

 

[Mister]

Some of you guys know solvepfs.com? Sadly the site is gone and with it a lot of valuable information but luckily someone found all (or most) of the recoveries there and made a list before it was gone.

Here it is:

-JN- =Proviron (DHT), felt that was not curing the cause -> Breakthrough with T3 and Adrenal supplements -> Feels that Cop-Zinc-ratio, anti-candida/parasite is the real cause

Austinite007 =Natural recovery

Cliffs =Took DIM, tribulus, and a topical DHT -> 6-8 weeks later his puffy nipples went away and libido was pretty much back. -> 6-8 weeks later he stopped DIM (doesn’t say if he stopped Trib and DHT gel) and 2 months later he felt like pre-fin days

Danielmotion01 =Lots of symptons -> diagnosed high RT3 and low T3 -> T3 treatment, everything recovered

[Some spanish guy cepo mentioned] =Positive attitude & weightlifting 3 years straight.

finhelp47 = cycling Vit E 200/400mg, 2-6 fish oil capsules, seldomly multivitamin which had ginseng 40mg which boosted libido

fuckfin =Synthroid (T4, thyroid medicine), Viagra, sex ja mastubation to recovery

GN9904 =Ciproxin (antibiotic) helped but otherwise natural recovery; believes that masturbation was critical

HopingForMore =2-3 High doses Tribulus Extract/day, 5 days a week

istherehope =Healthy lifestyle, herbal supplements, DIM for 3 months, gym 5/w (weight, some cardio, protein shakes and rich diet, maca, vitamin complex, hgweed, tribulus with l-arginine, something else… lots of broccoli and green tean, zinc, vitamin d. ! Cycled herbs on and off 6-8 months. Felt tribulus and arginine was important, DIM+Trib caused pain to prostate especially if he took alcohol the night before. pains ended once he quit the supplements (when he recovered).

John Coleman = Diagnosed adrenal fatigue with Dr.Wilson’s book (not Lawrence Wilson). Made natural recovery with good sleep, stop taking supplements, stopped negative obsessive thoughts and focused on positivity, ate lot of veggies. Confirmed recovery from adrenal fatigue with pupil dilation - testwhen he recovered.

Jon Doe = Natural recovery. Only slept more than usual due to depression and took way less sugar since he read about leaky gut. His full-blown gynecomastia removed with his recovery as well!

[Jon Doe’s topic: Guillermo Alvarez] =John Doe’s friend recovered naturally in 2 years.

Matis =Natural recovery. Stopped all substances (alcohol included) for the duration of recovery.

MikeS1025 =Natural recovery. Quit couple of supplements, did Kegels, kept taking Vit D and Centrum Multi-V, commented that erections lasted longer thru sex rather than masturbating. In the end, started eating healthy and gym 3-4/w.

MrMojo=Acupuncture (endocrine soft reset) -> 14 months Test cypionate and Sonoma Diet, symptons improved when he fixed Vit D and DHEA. Also mentioned doing hypothyroid treatments per Dr. Wilson (Not Lawrence Wilson) specifically.

multispeed27 =3 times a day Avena Sativa (“Controlled Labs, Blue Up, Natural Test Booster”) + Tamofixen

No5= Natural recovery. Felt summer in Greek sped up recovery (sun, no stress, sea?). Aerobic, good diet, positive mindset.

patientb =Vitamin B6 100 mg every day for 5 months + Quick Burst workouts -> Then symptons improved once he added Kal High Potency soft multiple – multivitamin & 30 minutes of swimming laps every day.

reason =Natural recovery. Diagnized adrenal fatigue -> Good diet, full sleep and resting for whole weekend. Felt cold water swimming helped him.

StartingOver = Natural recovery. Propecia caused freezing winters (hypothyroidism). Recovery phases overlapped with jetlag and flying. Gym, avoided bread, tried veganism. Eventually admitted that probably hard sessions in volleyball and red meat started his recovery.

Trickster = Doc trazodone (spelling? It’s a hormone), bodybuilding, Hcg and good mentality.

tryingnottoworry = Eat organich baby spinach 140g/d for 14 days for substance called dolichol, recovered quickly. (same for mariovitali in 2nd post)

yoyo = Natural recovery. A little viagra, body building, macca yohimbe went a long way. Also focused on stress and reducing stress and sadness.

propeciAUS = 10d water fast->bone broths, soups->GAPS->Paleo with cheat days. “Interestingly I got my best results when I stopped supplementing with vitamins etc and the only thing I took was a daily probiotic and digestive enzymes with each of the main meals. Oh sorry, I also took cod liver oil and flaxseed oil each morning. One thing I noticed was that the skin condition (doctor said it was psoriasis) that appeared just after my crash has now completely gone." Someone else did the same route as propecciAUS though and did not recover.

cdnuts = Many months of Raw diet plus several shorter fasts -> 2w water fast -> Paleo with carb back loading (no gluten or any kind of stimulants, stay well hydrated); meditation, Mindfulness, positivity etc; 3/w heavy weights and 1-2/w HIIT (eg springs); Cycling several testosterone boosters; Androhard 6w PCT 30d; B-complex, Magnesium complex, fish oils, Vitamin D 5000 iu;

Toadstool (?) = 1,5 months grassfeed Bone Broth, veggies, seasalt, probiotics -> slowlty to Paleo and lots of kefir + 100 bil probiotics. Big improvement when removed gluten and grains. I’m unsure if he is still recovered, apologies if I’m wrong.

Dynaaminen = Positivity, Testogel, L-tyrosine (brainfog), Gym 3-4/w with foottraining for libido, no excess sex, Minerals B-vitamins Sauerkraut, superfoods, enzymes… “Went overboard with supplements”. Breakthrought with chinese herbs (eg. Ron Teeguarden’s Dragon Jing), suggested Ron Teeguarden book “The Ancient Wisdom of the Chinese Tonic Herbs”. Felt that earthing had positive impact on symptons.

solonjk = Bad adrenal fatigue, 2 years in bed. Recovered for most part with a long, constant prostate Manila – technique treatment coupled with antibiotics. (See: Kos island treatments). Personally do not recommend antibiotics at any cost. fwiw: Dr Lawrence Wilson’s adrenal supplement made his adrenal symptons worse.

cgj1 = T3+T4+pregnelone until his metabolism sped up, then small amounts of Clomid.

japanther = Mainly had brainfog for PFS: fixed it only with Raw Diet.

bizzy (japanther-topic) = Natural recovery. Believes that faith cured him.

FJ929 = Mainly had brainfog for PFS: fixed it with 5-HTP.

[italian PFS sufferer] = Recovered with 28d water fast (“14 day water fast - my improvements”, pg.7)

Claro = Recovered mostly with long water fasts, still gut/candida issues due to use of antibiotics.

light at the end = Recovery with Deprenly and Progesterone.

beekay = Progesterone 5mg, pregnelone 50mg, lots of supplements, pos. attitude = 80% -> clomid ja nolva -> 100%

letsconvenience = Recovered with Dr. Lawrence Wilson protocol/supplements.

“Lawrence#2” = Very strictly daily enemas with (coffee?) enemas

“Lawrence#3” = Dr. Lawrence Wilson supplements + 1/month liver flushes with enemas -> libido back with Peat-diet

Special mentions:

Chi = Same protocol as cdnuts, recovered in 2014

mariovitali = Recovered in 2015. Many different protocols -> Methylation, felt something was missing -> NOS-protocol (Rucola/Rocket-salad) -> Realized it was Dolichol (spinach) plus certain supplements that recovered him, instead of NOS. Suffered PFS for 10 years.

Reply
2014 AND ONWARD & SPECIAL CASES

This is more work-in-progress, I haven’t bothered editing this as much.

IHP = 10d Water fast -> Diet, Antifungals Med ja Suppl… tl;dr: recovered ny focusing entirely on candida and leaky gut protocols. Came back at 2014 as he’s regressed a bit? JQD or someone can fill up on that. Posts now in PH, or at least used to until Theories section got closed.

??? (IHP topic) = Chinese herbs recovered 70% sexuality -> “damp coldness/heat” acupuncture recovered to 80% (“common for women in Asia who take birth control pills”)

FranzFan = Recovered i think? I can’t remember the details.

corroivp = Recovered TWICE, crashed again/ third time due to acid reflux and allergies.

joetz = Recovered for a long time with stem cell therapy, then slowly after months he regressed back to PFS. Interestingly had detox symptons at the beginning of SCT. Treatment has risks, stem cells must be made from specific fat from specific place of the body.

keepthefaith (?) = following mlevyholden and Chi, fixed diet and started hitting gym actively (specifically compact movements but cardio as well). 80% recovery, feels that prostatis last symptom to beat as it aches.

 

[Ideal man]

Some of you guys know solvepfs.com? Sadly the site is gone and with it a lot of valuable information but luckily someone found all (or most) of the recoveries there and made a list before it was gone.

Here it is:

-JN- =Proviron (DHT), felt that was not curing the cause -> Breakthrough with T3 and Adrenal supplements -> Feels that Cop-Zinc-ratio, anti-candida/parasite is the real cause

Austinite007 =Natural recovery

Cliffs =Took DIM, tribulus, and a topical DHT -> 6-8 weeks later his puffy nipples went away and libido was pretty much back. -> 6-8 weeks later he stopped DIM (doesn’t say if he stopped Trib and DHT gel) and 2 months later he felt like pre-fin days

Danielmotion01 =Lots of symptons -> diagnosed high RT3 and low T3 -> T3 treatment, everything recovered

[Some spanish guy cepo mentioned] =Positive attitude & weightlifting 3 years straight.

finhelp47 = cycling Vit E 200/400mg, 2-6 fish oil capsules, seldomly multivitamin which had ginseng 40mg which boosted libido

fuckfin =Synthroid (T4, thyroid medicine), Viagra, sex ja mastubation to recovery

GN9904 =Ciproxin (antibiotic) helped but otherwise natural recovery; believes that masturbation was critical

HopingForMore =2-3 High doses Tribulus Extract/day, 5 days a week

istherehope =Healthy lifestyle, herbal supplements, DIM for 3 months, gym 5/w (weight, some cardio, protein shakes and rich diet, maca, vitamin complex, hgweed, tribulus with l-arginine, something else… lots of broccoli and green tean, zinc, vitamin d. ! Cycled herbs on and off 6-8 months. Felt tribulus and arginine was important, DIM+Trib caused pain to prostate especially if he took alcohol the night before. pains ended once he quit the supplements (when he recovered).

John Coleman = Diagnosed adrenal fatigue with Dr.Wilson’s book (not Lawrence Wilson). Made natural recovery with good sleep, stop taking supplements, stopped negative obsessive thoughts and focused on positivity, ate lot of veggies. Confirmed recovery from adrenal fatigue with pupil dilation - testwhen he recovered.

Jon Doe = Natural recovery. Only slept more than usual due to depression and took way less sugar since he read about leaky gut. His full-blown gynecomastia removed with his recovery as well!

[Jon Doe’s topic: Guillermo Alvarez] =John Doe’s friend recovered naturally in 2 years.

Matis =Natural recovery. Stopped all substances (alcohol included) for the duration of recovery.

MikeS1025 =Natural recovery. Quit couple of supplements, did Kegels, kept taking Vit D and Centrum Multi-V, commented that erections lasted longer thru sex rather than masturbating. In the end, started eating healthy and gym 3-4/w.

MrMojo=Acupuncture (endocrine soft reset) -> 14 months Test cypionate and Sonoma Diet, symptons improved when he fixed Vit D and DHEA. Also mentioned doing hypothyroid treatments per Dr. Wilson (Not Lawrence Wilson) specifically.

multispeed27 =3 times a day Avena Sativa (“Controlled Labs, Blue Up, Natural Test Booster”) + Tamofixen

No5= Natural recovery. Felt summer in Greek sped up recovery (sun, no stress, sea?). Aerobic, good diet, positive mindset.

patientb =Vitamin B6 100 mg every day for 5 months + Quick Burst workouts -> Then symptons improved once he added Kal High Potency soft multiple – multivitamin & 30 minutes of swimming laps every day.

reason =Natural recovery. Diagnized adrenal fatigue -> Good diet, full sleep and resting for whole weekend. Felt cold water swimming helped him.

StartingOver = Natural recovery. Propecia caused freezing winters (hypothyroidism). Recovery phases overlapped with jetlag and flying. Gym, avoided bread, tried veganism. Eventually admitted that probably hard sessions in volleyball and red meat started his recovery.

Trickster = Doc trazodone (spelling? It’s a hormone), bodybuilding, Hcg and good mentality.

tryingnottoworry = Eat organich baby spinach 140g/d for 14 days for substance called dolichol, recovered quickly. (same for mariovitali in 2nd post)

yoyo = Natural recovery. A little viagra, body building, macca yohimbe went a long way. Also focused on stress and reducing stress and sadness.

propeciAUS = 10d water fast->bone broths, soups->GAPS->Paleo with cheat days. “Interestingly I got my best results when I stopped supplementing with vitamins etc and the only thing I took was a daily probiotic and digestive enzymes with each of the main meals. Oh sorry, I also took cod liver oil and flaxseed oil each morning. One thing I noticed was that the skin condition (doctor said it was psoriasis) that appeared just after my crash has now completely gone." Someone else did the same route as propecciAUS though and did not recover.

cdnuts = Many months of Raw diet plus several shorter fasts -> 2w water fast -> Paleo with carb back loading (no gluten or any kind of stimulants, stay well hydrated); meditation, Mindfulness, positivity etc; 3/w heavy weights and 1-2/w HIIT (eg springs); Cycling several testosterone boosters; Androhard 6w PCT 30d; B-complex, Magnesium complex, fish oils, Vitamin D 5000 iu;

Toadstool (?) = 1,5 months grassfeed Bone Broth, veggies, seasalt, probiotics -> slowlty to Paleo and lots of kefir + 100 bil probiotics. Big improvement when removed gluten and grains. I’m unsure if he is still recovered, apologies if I’m wrong.

Dynaaminen = Positivity, Testogel, L-tyrosine (brainfog), Gym 3-4/w with foottraining for libido, no excess sex, Minerals B-vitamins Sauerkraut, superfoods, enzymes… “Went overboard with supplements”. Breakthrought with chinese herbs (eg. Ron Teeguarden’s Dragon Jing), suggested Ron Teeguarden book “The Ancient Wisdom of the Chinese Tonic Herbs”. Felt that earthing had positive impact on symptons.

solonjk = Bad adrenal fatigue, 2 years in bed. Recovered for most part with a long, constant prostate Manila – technique treatment coupled with antibiotics. (See: Kos island treatments). Personally do not recommend antibiotics at any cost. fwiw: Dr Lawrence Wilson’s adrenal supplement made his adrenal symptons worse.

cgj1 = T3+T4+pregnelone until his metabolism sped up, then small amounts of Clomid.

japanther = Mainly had brainfog for PFS: fixed it only with Raw Diet.

bizzy (japanther-topic) = Natural recovery. Believes that faith cured him.

FJ929 = Mainly had brainfog for PFS: fixed it with 5-HTP.

[italian PFS sufferer] = Recovered with 28d water fast (“14 day water fast - my improvements”, pg.7)

Claro = Recovered mostly with long water fasts, still gut/candida issues due to use of antibiotics.

light at the end = Recovery with Deprenly and Progesterone.

beekay = Progesterone 5mg, pregnelone 50mg, lots of supplements, pos. attitude = 80% -> clomid ja nolva -> 100%

letsconvenience = Recovered with Dr. Lawrence Wilson protocol/supplements.

“Lawrence#2” = Very strictly daily enemas with (coffee?) enemas

“Lawrence#3” = Dr. Lawrence Wilson supplements + 1/month liver flushes with enemas -> libido back with Peat-diet

Special mentions:

Chi = Same protocol as cdnuts, recovered in 2014

mariovitali = Recovered in 2015. Many different protocols -> Methylation, felt something was missing -> NOS-protocol (Rucola/Rocket-salad) -> Realized it was Dolichol (spinach) plus certain supplements that recovered him, instead of NOS. Suffered PFS for 10 years.

Reply
2014 AND ONWARD & SPECIAL CASES

This is more work-in-progress, I haven’t bothered editing this as much.

IHP = 10d Water fast -> Diet, Antifungals Med ja Suppl… tl;dr: recovered ny focusing entirely on candida and leaky gut protocols. Came back at 2014 as he’s regressed a bit? JQD or someone can fill up on that. Posts now in PH, or at least used to until Theories section got closed.

??? (IHP topic) = Chinese herbs recovered 70% sexuality -> “damp coldness/heat” acupuncture recovered to 80% (“common for women in Asia who take birth control pills”)

FranzFan = Recovered i think? I can’t remember the details.

corroivp = Recovered TWICE, crashed again/ third time due to acid reflux and allergies.

joetz = Recovered for a long time with stem cell therapy, then slowly after months he regressed back to PFS. Interestingly had detox symptons at the beginning of SCT. Treatment has risks, stem cells must be made from specific fat from specific place of the body.

keepthefaith (?) = following mlevyholden and Chi, fixed diet and started hitting gym actively (specifically compact movements but cardio as well). 80% recovery, feels that prostatis last symptom to beat as it aches.

Thanks for sharing this ?

 

[Coltcool]

Does anyone else have headaches all the time?

 

[CureOrCause]

The primal diet is essentially ketogenic correct? What do you think of Ray's view as glycogenesis being superior to ketosis?

No. 1st: see what else your body deals with, but it is founded in raw organs/meat, milk, honey, then fruits and veggies (processed, blended in fats). He combines foods most of the times, but in the end one should see what your body can take. In a worst case scenario, only raw organs/meat and eggs can do the job, it was actually the only way to calm my proviron migraines after 6 months. you gotta experiment with that blueprint, no one-size-fits-all, although in his book he recommends certain combos for each disease, quite awesome (cancer, diabetes, migraines, prostatitis, impotence, etc, bit in the end can get quite complicated, a lot of homemade oils and baths and stuff). For him, food is medicine, and saves people shitload of money because he's against supps. Best approach/logicI've seen so far except the "planes bombing us with toxins in the sky" thing", let's see how it goes from here for me