Canadian PM Just Confirmed The "Great Reset" Is Not A Conspiracy

[No_Energy]

not courage, just a lack of the time. patience. you're like the others, another indoctrinated ignorant marxist. Always inverting things, lying, muddling the waters, confusing things. How many times have I heard the same garbage, "Oh that is not the real Marxism/Communism" "you have to read!", the arrogant fools, they/he think he is the only one who really knows what the real Marxism/Communism is!... really? what a genius. just shut your mouths. We have seen and heard the same a million times from the indoctrinated kind. you all spew the same. that is nothing new. I hope you are still a kid. an indoctrinated confused kid. anyway, we don't have the time for this here. educate yourself out of this socialist/communist garbage they put in your head. please let's end here. Our conversation ends here. let's hope you find some light.

*please forgive me , the previous msg should not have been personal and mentioned names. It was supposed to be generalized , to marxist/communist/socialist militants in general in the forum, not a specific person. you all t. and sound the same.
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[Encai]

Klaus Schwab says – You will Own Nothing in 10 years | Armstrong Economics

You will own nothing, and you will like it. Theyre not trying to hide it anymore.

I‘m sorry, but this sounds like an anti-communism ad straight from the Reagan era. I live in such a „left“ Country (Austria) and if anything has changed in the last two decades it’s been a general incline towards liberal market policies.

More renewable energy and less food waste would be sustainable and good for a large amount of the Society and the Environment. I‘m not a vegetarian/vegan proponent that everybody would be fine without meat, but look at how many people eat all parts of an animal and how much meat and animal products get thrown away.

Our system has room for improvement, and some of these propositions might lean a little bit into the socialist direction. The problem is that the downfall in politics and democracy is making people trust each other less and less, which leads to less participation and less communication. We need more constructive dialogue. Not more „these are the bad ones“ type of propaganda

 

[Giraffe]

I live in such a „left“ Country (Austria) and if anything has changed in the last two decades it’s been a general incline towards liberal market policies.

"Liberal market policies" is mostly a lie. It means privatization and deregulation, and it's mainly the multinationals that profit from it.

For me Rainer Mausfeld was an eye-opener. Here is a short clip with him. I highly recommend to listen to one his lectures.

Neoliberalismus: totalitäre Wirtschaftsideologie - Rainer Mausfeld - YouTube

More renewable energy

You imply that wind power and solar power can substitute coal, oil and nuclear power, but they can't.

Gau im Illusionsreaktor (4): Energie lässt sich nicht wenden

 

[PxD]

That is so false I nearly gagged on my drink. Oilmwells are not producing a little less every day because oil is running out. Oil inconstantly being replenished. Its a myth that oil is the remnants of dinosaurs. Its being made in the ground as we speak. Not onlynthat but if you knew history you would know Adolf Hitler and Germany used synthetically made petroleum products.

Go sell crazy someplace else. We're stocked up here

LOL wut? Your comment is flabbergastingly ignorant. It's utterly hilarious that you call me crazy.

I work in the energy industry. My wife is an oil geologist. I know what I'm talking about. Abiotic oil is a kook theory.

Yes, I'm familiar with the Fischer-Tropsch process. There is a sizeable oil company from South Africa, SASOL, that has made it its specialty over the last few decades. You can manufacture oil products from coal with FT but it's expensive and the EROI is low (see my previous posts). Re: Germany, having to rely on coal-to-liquids technology put the Germans at a huge disadvantage in WW2, when the Soviets and especially the US had mountains of cheap oil available.

 

[MatheusPN]

not courage, just a lack of the time. patience. you're like the others, another indoctrinated ignorant marxist. Always inverting things, lying, muddling the waters, confusing things. How many times have I heard the same garbage, "Oh that is not the real Marxism/Communism" "you have to read!", the arrogant fools, they/he think he is the only one who really knows what the real Marxism/Communism is!... really? what a genius. just shut your mouths. We have seen and heard the same a million times from the indoctrinated kind. you all spew the same. that is nothing new. I hope you are still a kid. an indoctrinated confused kid. anyway, we don't have the time for this here. educate yourself out of this socialist/communist garbage they put in your head. please let's end here. Our conversation ends here. let's hope you find some light.

*please forgive me , the previous msg should not have been personal and mentioned names. It was supposed to be generalized , to marxist/communist/socialist militants in general in the forum, not a specific person. you all t. and sound the same.
==

Calm down and stop being so illogically hateful, its pathetic.
Even worse, you hate something that you proved before that you know nothing!

You're the one in the wrong place. Ray likes marxism. Ray shows how the FBI were fascists who created propaganda against Stalin, Ray shows how principally the West intelligence like CIA, creates misinformation against communism to achieve fascist/ corporatocracy and eugenicist goals.

 

[YourUniverse]

Ontario very seriously toying with proof-of-vaccination card/passport, says Health Minister:



Not mandatory to get the shot, but not getting the shot essentially removes you from society.

How is forcing a vaccination not a human rights violation?

@schultz are you aware of this? Can I ask your thoughts? How and when has Canada lost its way so thoroughly?

 

[Inaut]

We need to reinstate the death penalty for crimes against humanity. Canadian politicians need to know that they can’t play with peoples lives anymore.

 

[YourUniverse]

The card/passport would be proof of 2 vaccinations and would allow entry to businesses that are currently being forced to close for quarantine, like restaurants and movie theatres (and of course travel).

Its a brilliantly evil plan. These businesses have been absolutely starved and will instate any measures necessary to get business rolling again, so the government won't need to enforce anything. Private businesses will enforce the agenda for them, and they will like it. Sickening.

We don't need to carry around a Polio vaccination card, meaning that it would make sense that the hysteria will eventually die down. When will that be? A year? 5? What is the scope of the vaccination passport? [How expensive is it to move to Switzerland..?]

 

[YourUniverse]

Definition of FASCISM

a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

"Definition of fascism​

1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition"

The insidious part of this is that COVID has given the powers that be a way to sidestep a fundamental tenet of fascism, that of the autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader. In this scenario (our twilight zone of a reality), the PEOPLE, PRIVATE BUSINESSES are the ones WILLINGLY enforcing such an agenda. Government's hands are clean, a vaccination is merely suggested, whether you are allowed in someone's private business is up to them! [but also, if you own a business and you do not advocate for masks/social distancing/health passport, we will fine you... still, your choice though! hehe!].

I used to view my country as a haven of justice in a world gone mad and I am currently questioning everything. Maybe I should stop writing on the internet, am I being added to a database somewhere? Too many new things to consider.

 

[YourUniverse]

"There's a level of admiration I actually have for China, because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to turn their economy around on a dime."

What else can a basic dictatorship do?

 

[schultz]

Ontario very seriously toying with proof-of-vaccination card/passport, says Health Minister:



Not mandatory to get the shot, but not getting the shot essentially removes you from society.

How is forcing a vaccination not a human rights violation?

@schultz are you aware of this? Can I ask your thoughts? How and when has Canada lost its way so thoroughly?

Yah that is a bit concerning. I'm not sure it will hugely affect me though. I am self-employed, I rarely go out to eat at this moment in my life, I do enjoy the movie theatre though, however I just installed a new theatre system in my home so I'm not too upset about that either. I think I'll just make an effort to do more family oriented home or outdoor things like archery, setting up an ice rink, campfires, family BBQ's, maybe build a swim pond. The country is so much more relaxed than the city. I am currently considering moving to NS though. I was already considering it pre-COVID, mainly because the cost to buy a house is so much cheaper there and the growing season is still pretty good (for Canada) in certain areas (zone 6).

Doug Ford said he wouldn't force the vaccination on anybody. Although not allowing people into places is a bit annoying. From what I understand we might still be able to go to places but just have to wear a mask and stuff. Although that will label us as anti-vaxxers to the vaxxer crowd I suppose.

A bit off topic but I just saw this interesting paper comparing vaccinated children to un-vaccinated children. Looks like it was just published in November.

Relative Incidence of Office Visits and Cumulative Rates of Billed Diagnoses Along the Axis of Vaccination

We performed a retrospective analysis spanning ten years of pediatric practice focused on patients with variable vaccination born into a practice, presenting a unique opportunity to study the effects of variable vaccination on outcomes. The average total ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

On top of being an interesting read, it has lots of useful links to other studies. The study definitely shows the need for significantly more evidence on the long-term outcome and health effects that vaccination has on people (not just the 42 days following a vaccination). Also of note, zero out of the 561 unvaccinated children had ADHD, which I feel like is pretty remarkable. Some counfounding factors to consider though are that unvaccinated children may be brought in to see the doctor less often by their parents. If this were the case then the study would at least show that vaccinated families strain the healthcare system unnecessarily (I am being a bit cheeky). It's either that or their kids get sick more easily.

If you think about it rationally, without picking a side (vaxxed vs unvaxxed), it makes logical sense to not vaccinate your child as the risk of getting one of the diseases in which they vaccinate for, in our country, is very slim. On top of that, a serious negative outcome from one of these diseases is even slimmer. However, there are not a lot of studies showing the long-term safety of vaccinations and there are almost zero studies comparing the health of vaccinated vs un-vaccinated populations (which is just astounding). Even someone who believes in vaccination could come to the conclusion that they might as well just be selfish and not vaccinate their children since everybody else vaccinates and that keeps those diseases at near zero. Why risk them on your own child?

Would you rather get the measles for a couple weeks or inject yourself with something that could cause long-term damage, and possibly damage your offspring? The devil you know.

 

[Waynish]

They will fail.

But can we get a bittorrent backup of the forum just in case we need offline access for a while? )

 

[Inaut]

But can we get a bittorrent backup of the forum just in case we need offline access for a while? )

I like that idea :)

 

[Waynish]

I like that idea :)

I'm sure I can come up with a script that backs up everything without exposing any sensitive/user data... If it is too much of a pain to do manually. Then we can run it once or twice a month & reseed a new version of the torrent.

 

[Encai]

"Liberal market policies" is mostly a lie. It means privatization and deregulation, and it's mainly the multinationals that profit from it.

For me Rainer Mausfeld was an eye-opener. Here is a short clip with him. I highly recommend to listen to one his lectures.

Neoliberalismus: totalitäre Wirtschaftsideologie - Rainer Mausfeld - YouTube


You imply that wind power and solar power can substitute coal, oil and nuclear power, but they can't.

Gau im Illusionsreaktor (4): Energie lässt sich nicht wenden

It’s not about completely substituting, I know that that would be quite hard. But shifting the production is possibleup to a certain point.

 

[Encai]

Yah that is a bit concerning. I'm not sure it will hugely affect me though. I am self-employed, I rarely go out to eat at this moment in my life, I do enjoy the movie theatre though, however I just installed a new theatre system in my home so I'm not too upset about that either. I think I'll just make an effort to do more family oriented home or outdoor things like archery, setting up an ice rink, campfires, family BBQ's, maybe build a swim pond. The country is so much more relaxed than the city. I am currently considering moving to NS though. I was already considering it pre-COVID, mainly because the cost to buy a house is so much cheaper there and the growing season is still pretty good (for Canada) in certain areas (zone 6).

Doug Ford said he wouldn't force the vaccination on anybody. Although not allowing people into places is a bit annoying. From what I understand we might still be able to go to places but just have to wear a mask and stuff. Although that will label us as anti-vaxxers to the vaxxer crowd I suppose.

A bit off topic but I just saw this interesting paper comparing vaccinated children to un-vaccinated children. Looks like it was just published in November.

Relative Incidence of Office Visits and Cumulative Rates of Billed Diagnoses Along the Axis of Vaccination

We performed a retrospective analysis spanning ten years of pediatric practice focused on patients with variable vaccination born into a practice, presenting a unique opportunity to study the effects of variable vaccination on outcomes. The average total ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

On top of being an interesting read, it has lots of useful links to other studies. The study definitely shows the need for significantly more evidence on the long-term outcome and health effects that vaccination has on people (not just the 42 days following a vaccination). Also of note, zero out of the 561 unvaccinated children had ADHD, which I feel like is pretty remarkable. Some counfounding factors to consider though are that unvaccinated children may be brought in to see the doctor less often by their parents. If this were the case then the study would at least show that vaccinated families strain the healthcare system unnecessarily (I am being a bit cheeky). It's either that or their kids get sick more easily.

If you think about it rationally, without picking a side (vaxxed vs unvaxxed), it makes logical sense to not vaccinate your child as the risk of getting one of the diseases in which they vaccinate for, in our country, is very slim. On top of that, a serious negative outcome from one of these diseases is even slimmer. However, there are not a lot of studies showing the long-term safety of vaccinations and there are almost zero studies comparing the health of vaccinated vs un-vaccinated populations (which is just astounding). Even someone who believes in vaccination could come to the conclusion that they might as well just be selfish and not vaccinate their children since everybody else vaccinates and that keeps those diseases at near zero. Why risk them on your own child?

Would you rather get the measles for a couple weeks or inject yourself with something that could cause long-term damage, and possibly damage your offspring? The devil you know.

The thing is, the chances of getting these deseases are slim because a lot of people are vaccinated. Pox doesn’t exist because there has been a very thorough vaccine policy. Yellow fever is rare because in most countries where it could appear you are obligated to vaccinate yourself. Measles can have long term consequences and dire outcomes. It’s not too common, but it happens.

Its utopian that vaccines cannot have any side effects, but it’s not unthinkable that the vaccines side effects may be less common than an infections long term consequences (think of poliomyelitis for example).

People always say naturality is the best and so on, but never consider how brutal and hard nature and biology can be. There’s a reason we live in houses and have heating and electricity. This is not to say everything natural is bad, far from it. But we should look at what technology and modern medicine can actually do for us at times and what nature and our own body can do. It’s not one or the other. You need to work with both

 

[LeeLemonoil]

Zombiesque John Kerry announces Great Raclette measures will be enacted quick and vastly under the Biden-Junta:

Justin Haskins: Joe Biden's Electoral College win is a big deal, so is his scary 'Great Reset' agenda

What, exactly, will Joe Biden’s presidency look like?

www.foxnews.com

At a November virtual event hosted by the World Economic Forum promoting the far-left “Great Reset” movement, John Kerry — who was recently named Biden’s “climate czar” — provided insight into what the incoming Biden administration has planned for the American people.


At panel discussion about the Great Reset led by WEF President Borge Brende, Brende asked Kerry whether those calling for a “great reset” of global capitalism and dramatic changes to society and national economies are “expecting too much too soon from the new president, or is he going to deliver first day on this [sic] topics?”

After a few brief introductory statements and greetings, Kerry responded, “And yes, it [the Great Reset] will happen. And I think it will happen with greater speed and with greater intensity than a lot of people might imagine.”

How does the incoming Biden administration plan to usher in this promised Great Reset, and what would it mean for you and your family?


Biden’s platform includes several major Great Reset policy reforms covering three important public policy areas: the economy, energy and climate change.

 

[schultz]

The thing is, the chances of getting these deseases are slim because a lot of people are vaccinated. Pox doesn’t exist because there has been a very thorough vaccine policy. Yellow fever is rare because in most countries where it could appear you are obligated to vaccinate yourself. Measles can have long term consequences and dire outcomes. It’s not too common, but it happens.

Its utopian that vaccines cannot have any side effects, but it’s not unthinkable that the vaccines side effects may be less common than an infections long term consequences (think of poliomyelitis for example).

People always say naturality is the best and so on, but never consider how brutal and hard nature and biology can be. There’s a reason we live in houses and have heating and electricity. This is not to say everything natural is bad, far from it. But we should look at what technology and modern medicine can actually do for us at times and what nature and our own body can do. It’s not one or the other. You need to work with both

I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not. But yah, that was my point, that the chances of getting these diseases are slim. Proper health and nutrition + sanitation will help prevent any bad outcomes from most if not all of these diseases. I think I would rather not get vaccinated. Polio is at least 95% asymptomatic. Regarding bad outcomes from something like polio (people always bring up paralysis, which is less than 1% of polio cases), I think these are pretty rare and also think that there are other factors that should be considered when discussing how these diseases presented themselves in the past. Ray mentioned in one of his recent newsletters that tonsillectomies used to be widely performed on children. In 1959 1.4 million tonsillectomies were performed, in 1979 only 500,000, and in 1979 250,000. Tonsillectomies correspond to a sharp rise in cases of paralytic polio. It used to be called "polio provocation". I've never heard anybody discuss this idea in our modern time, and yet it is well documented. Apparently they used to use X-Rays (and radium) to not only shrink the tonsils (instead of surgery) but they also used to irradiate children several times before tonsillectomy to shrink the thymus gland. Apparently some pediatricians used to fluoroscope babies as part of their "check-up". I do wonder how this all contributed to things like incidence of polio?

Something else that could have contributed is that only 20-30% of women actually breast-fed their children from around the 1940's to 1970's. (source)

Anyway, my point is that generally people today believe vaccines are the sole reason we got rid of many of these diseases. I think there are dozens of other factors (including sanitation, nutrition) that people are forgetting about. It turns out that fluoroscoping your baby, not breastfeeding them, and cutting out their tonsils may have a negative affect on them. They may indeed not properly handle a virus that is normally asymptomatic in 95%+ cases.

This site shows several ways x-rays used to be used: Treatment of acne, in shoe stores for fitting shoes, ringworm, etc.

Chapter 2, Pre-1960 and Post-1960 Uses of Medical Radiation, and Its Carcinogenic Action

This site shows uses of radiation to treat certain things:

Radiation Studies: Nasopharyngeal Radium Irradiation (NRI) - Home | CDC RSB

General information on nasopharyngeal radium irradiation (NRI). Provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

www.cdc.gov

"It is now the routine treatment to radiograph all children between one and fourteen years of age booked for tonsil and adenoid operations at the throat department of the Massachusetts General Hospital and the Massachusetts Eye and Ear Infirmary. All children showing [on the diagnostic film] a broad superior mediastinum are considered as suspicious cases, and are given four xray treatments of a third of an erythema dose. The treatments are repeated at intervals of ten days." (The purpose of such "treatments" was to shrink the thymus gland, for it was widely believed that patients with smaller thymus glands had a lower chance of sudden death under anesthesia Gofman 1995/96, Chapter 10.)"

'Fetal irradiation was quite common. "Roentgenographic evaluation of the relative size of the fetal head and maternal pelvis has been used clinically almost since the advent of medical radiography" (Kelly 1975). The estimated frequency of xray pelvimetry in the 1947-1970 period was 1 birth out of every 13.5 births in the USA (Gofman 1995/96, pp.88-89, based on MacMahon 1962 and Kelly 1975)."

 

[Encai]

I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not. But yah, that was my point, that the chances of getting these diseases are slim. Proper health and nutrition + sanitation will help prevent any bad outcomes from most if not all of these diseases. I think I would rather not get vaccinated. Polio is at least 95% asymptomatic. Regarding bad outcomes from something like polio (people always bring up paralysis, which is less than 1% of polio cases), I think these are pretty rare and also think that there are other factors that should be considered when discussing how these diseases presented themselves in the past. Ray mentioned in one of his recent newsletters that tonsillectomies used to be widely performed on children. In 1959 1.4 million tonsillectomies were performed, in 1979 only 500,000, and in 1979 250,000. Tonsillectomies correspond to a sharp rise in cases of paralytic polio. It used to be called "polio provocation". I've never heard anybody discuss this idea in our modern time, and yet it is well documented. Apparently they used to use X-Rays (and radium) to not only shrink the tonsils (instead of surgery) but they also used to irradiate children several times before tonsillectomy to shrink the thymus gland. Apparently some pediatricians used to fluoroscope babies as part of their "check-up". I do wonder how this all contributed to things like incidence of polio?

Something else that could have contributed is that only 20-30% of women actually breast-fed their children from around the 1940's to 1970's. (source)

Anyway, my point is that generally people today believe vaccines are the sole reason we got rid of many of these diseases. I think there are dozens of other factors (including sanitation, nutrition) that people are forgetting about. It turns out that fluoroscoping your baby, not breastfeeding them, and cutting out their tonsils may have a negative affect on them. They may indeed not properly handle a virus that is normally asymptomatic in 95%+ cases.

This site shows several ways x-rays used to be used: Treatment of acne, in shoe stores for fitting shoes, ringworm, etc.

Chapter 2, Pre-1960 and Post-1960 Uses of Medical Radiation, and Its Carcinogenic Action

This site shows uses of radiation to treat certain things:

Radiation Studies: Nasopharyngeal Radium Irradiation (NRI) - Home | CDC RSB

General information on nasopharyngeal radium irradiation (NRI). Provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

www.cdc.gov

"It is now the routine treatment to radiograph all children between one and fourteen years of age booked for tonsil and adenoid operations at the throat department of the Massachusetts General Hospital and the Massachusetts Eye and Ear Infirmary. All children showing [on the diagnostic film] a broad superior mediastinum are considered as suspicious cases, and are given four xray treatments of a third of an erythema dose. The treatments are repeated at intervals of ten days." (The purpose of such "treatments" was to shrink the thymus gland, for it was widely believed that patients with smaller thymus glands had a lower chance of sudden death under anesthesia Gofman 1995/96, Chapter 10.)"

'Fetal irradiation was quite common. "Roentgenographic evaluation of the relative size of the fetal head and maternal pelvis has been used clinically almost since the advent of medical radiography" (Kelly 1975). The estimated frequency of xray pelvimetry in the 1947-1970 period was 1 birth out of every 13.5 births in the USA (Gofman 1995/96, pp.88-89, based on MacMahon 1962 and Kelly 1975)."

Okay, to make myself clear, you could probably call me more of a pro-vaxxer than an anti-vaxxer. But this is probably because of my background.

Of my dads siblings, there was one that hasn't been vaccinated and she contracted polio and has been partly paralyzed for life. Part of my family grew up in latin america and yellow fever is a very real thing there (15% of infections are what you can call severe cases with a mortality of about 3 % in total). Tetanus is another example with about 10% mortality. Measles have a mortality ranging from 0,2% (in developed countries) to 25% (in developing countries), with a higher rate of complications and long-term consequences.

For certain cases, I think vaccination is a fast and reliable way to prevent desease. I'm all for objective thorough investigation of long-term effects of any kind of vaccination and less corrupt influence of pharmaceutical industry. But to say vaccination is wrong in and of itself and the government or medical system is doing this with some higher agenda (other than making money of course) is simplistic, IMO. As in politics, I think it's neither "everything the government tell us is right" or " everything the government tells us is wrong".

"Proper health and nutrition + sanitation will help prevent any bad outcomes from most if not all of these diseases." - This is very true and should be highest priority, BUT a lot of time is needed to achieve this. Vaccination is a comparably fast and easy tool, and people can make money of it, which is why it's so attractive and gets promoted more than general health improvement, I guess. This is ****88 up, but, as I said before, for some cases I think vaccination is a viable option.

 

[Giraffe]

for some cases I think vaccination is a viable option.

For several vaccines studies found increased mortality.

Such "increased mortality as after vaccination with RTS,S has also been documented after other passive vaccinations against hepatitis B, polio and diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis as well as measles and yellow fever in girls."