What Hormones Are Involed In Penis Growth & Size?

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Good to hear your hormones didn't crash ur hormones, that gives me confidence to do a cycle lol...since your 18 your test must be high enough that even dht steroids won't drop your t levels too low
yeah i did have pretty hairy legs before what's associated with high androgens
 
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i did one big cycle of a 4 months and 2 weeks then stopt and i'll start again when it arrives, which should be tomorrow.

why are you taking so much dht if you are only 19? why not use pregnenlone? i get the big forum info saying dht is good for you, but i'd still be cautious with it, hair loss still isn't clearly explained yet, not saying it causes hair loss, but if your body is in hair loss mode, like low metabolic rate, the dht is not helping the situation
 

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why are you taking so much dht if you are only 19? why not use pregnenlone? i get the big forum info saying dht is good for you, but i'd still be cautious with it, hair loss still isn't clearly explained yet, not saying it causes hair loss, but if your body is in hair loss mode, like low metabolic rate, the dht is not helping the situation
didn't shed one bit. don't care that much about hair though at least as of yet. I also heard people say preg made them more feminime so that is clearly not my goal. If I ever wanted to change gender than i might use some preg ;). dht only causes hairloss when you don't eat enough that's the main reason why steroid users lose their hair. As you know hypoglycemia causes stress wich causes hairloss.
 
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didn't shed one bit. don't care that much about hair though at least as of yet. I also heard people say preg made them more feminime so that is clearly not my goal. If I ever wanted to change gender than i might use some preg ;). dht only causes hairloss when you don't eat enough that's the main reason why steroid users lose their hair. As you know hypoglycemia causes stress wich causes hairloss.

I thought balding is from excessive dht levels lowering testosterone too much.
didn't shed one bit. don't care that much about hair though at least as of yet. I also heard people say preg made them more feminime so that is clearly not my goal. If I ever wanted to change gender than i might use some preg ;). dht only causes hairloss when you don't eat enough that's the main reason why steroid users lose their hair. As you know hypoglycemia causes stress wich causes hairloss.

So your saying that balding is from low metabolism?...I thought it was excessive levels of dht & low testosterone...if I could take dht & not worry about hair loss that would be awesome.
 

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I thought balding is from excessive dht levels lowering testosterone too much.


So your saying that balding is from low metabolism?...I thought it was excessive levels of dht & low testosterone...if I could take dht & not worry about hair loss that would be awesome.
i didn't shed taking high doses. hypothetically if you do lose your hair i'm sure the positives would outweight the negatives, at least for me they do.
 
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i didn't shed taking high doses. hypothetically if you do lose your hair i'm sure the positives would outweight the negatives, at least for me they do.

My body is weird in the sense I've always had very hairy arms legs lower abs and get easily ripped but don't have a full beard or chest hair. So if I do loose my hair (im already slightly receeding) its not like I can pull off the bald look cause I have a thin jaw and patchy beard lol.
 
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i didn't shed taking high doses. hypothetically if you do lose your hair i'm sure the positives would outweight the negatives, at least for me they do.

just from personal experience, it's an easy argument while you still have your hair to say, but in what you said before, i 100% agree with you, it is not DHT the directly causes hair loss, it is from the stress/vitamin d/prolactin/slow digestion/that whole realm, however, if you fall into that stress state, i think the DHT is like throwing gasoline on a fire, since you are 19, you are not going to have any loss, but im just saying be careful, you want to keep yourself in tip top shape to avoid all loss, you are lucky to find this place when you are 19 and still in good health, you want to keep it that way, anyway all right later dude, im sure you arent going to change your mind anyway, but just keep it in the back of your head
 

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just from personal experience, it's an easy argument while you still have your hair to say, but in what you said before, i 100% agree with you, it is not DHT the directly causes hair loss, it is from the stress/vitamin d/prolactin/slow digestion/that whole realm, however, if you fall into that stress state, i think the DHT is like throwing gasoline on a fire, since you are 19, you are not going to have any loss, but im just saying be careful, you want to keep yourself in tip top shape to avoid all loss, you are lucky to find this place when you are 19 and still in good health, you want to keep it that way, anyway all right later dude, im sure you arent going to change your mind anyway, but just keep it in the back of your head
yeah 18 actually but indeed taking dht while starving yourself is a veeery bad idea. actually happened one time that I couldn't feed myself and i got very agressive so definitly causing severe stress when under eating. that might also be an explanation for roid rage.
 

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My body is weird in the sense I've always had very hairy arms legs lower abs and get easily ripped but don't have a full beard or chest hair. So if I do loose my hair (im already slightly receeding) its not like I can pull off the bald look cause I have a thin jaw and patchy beard lol.
yeah I also have few facial hair, dht didn't change anything there so maybe facial hair requires estrogen or something. chest hair is estrogen driven by the way. I have very hairy legs, arms and hands thats it.
 
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yeah I also have few facial hair, dht didn't change anything there so maybe facial hair requires estrogen or something. chest hair is estrogen driven by the way. I have very hairy legs, arms and hands thats it.

Yeah it seems like facial hair and chest hair is a maturing trait which maturing basically means aging and estrogen related I guess.
 
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yeah 18 actually but indeed taking dht while starving yourself is a veeery bad idea. actually happened one time that I couldn't feed myself and i got very agressive so definitly causing severe stress when under eating. that might also be an explanation for roid rage.

Also the fact that your **** grew I think is because your still in the later stages of puberty. I would be very happy if I could get mine to grow more, but at 26 idk if its still possible even with steroids.
 
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you only know when you try, is it decent size?

Yeah I guess, average length with slightly above average girth. I was trying to do those PE gym excesize routines to increase length but its hard to keep consistent. Thats y I bought dht gel in the 1st place to help enlargement process. I grew to my current length when I was like 13 and never got any longer lol.
 

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Yeah I guess, average length with slightly above average girth. I was trying to do those PE gym excesize routines to increase length but its hard to keep consistent. Thats y I bought dht gel in the 1st place to help enlargement process. I grew to my current length when I was like 13 and never got any longer lol.

The PE boards seem to be dived between guys who see impressive gains using exercises, and those who basically can't get anything to work.

If androgen production is compromised, this could account for the guys who get zero gains from any routines.

At the same time, the guys who see gains with pretty much any protocol, might just have healthy androgens at the same time, hence the growth.

It should also be noted that the PE industry basically avoids any discussion of androgens completely assuming everyone is relatively healthy. They also have nothing to really sell, as the manual exercises are equally effective as any tools.
 
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The PE boards seem to be dived between guys who see impressive gains using exercises, and those who basically can't get anything to work.



If androgen production is compromised, this could account for the guys who get zero gains from any routines.

At the same time, the guys who see gains with pretty much any protocol, might just have healthy androgens at the same time, hence the growth.

It should also be noted that the PE industry basically avoids any discussion of androgens completely assuming everyone is relatively healthy. They also have nothing to really sell, as the manual exercises are equally effective as any tools.

I would agree with u, BUT there are members who are older 40s and 50s that gain from PE. A 50 year old American most likely doesn't have good androgen.
 

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I would agree with u, BUT there are members who are older 40s and 50s that gain from PE. A 50 year old American most likely doesn't have good androgen.

Correct, but they're probably also taking Viagra.

The largest documented gains that I've ever seen were from a guy who was basically inducing a priapism using injections, but the same, or less could be achieved with ED drugs + exercises (he was only jelqing).
 
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Correct, but they're probably also taking Viagra.

The largest documented gains that I've ever seen were from a guy who was basically inducing a priapism using injections, but the same, or less could be achieved with ED drugs + exercises (he was only jelqing).

If Viagra or strong nitric oxide promoters are the key ingredient here wouldn't it be worth it to get bigger junk for a better sex life?
 
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