The credibility of this forum is being's undermined by conspiracy theories

[InChristAlone]

All sets of laws derived from the fundamental ones, those from the Old Testament. Both the greeks and the romans were in turn influenced by the civilizations before them, whether they were medo persians, babylonians, egyptians etc. Not everything is limited to laws, but in addition to the laws, they also took over the pagan religion of these peoples, who strongly believed in gods, not in one God, but in a multitude of gods. Therefore, they added to their society the idolatry towards the moon, the sun, towards the stars, towards nature, towards the sexual organs represented by the circle and the obelisk inside it etc. They just changed their names and that's it.

Remember, the first founded religion was paganism or occult religion!
Let's go back in time and stop at the period that begins after the flood. Remember that Noah had 3 sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth. Ham, the one who made his father "ashamed" and who was cursed by him, had a son named Cush and Cush in his turn had Nimrod, the initiator of the NWO and OWR. Nimrod was not a goodly man, he was against God and at the tower of Babylon, at this place was where the very first religion(witchcraft) started . Nimrod and Semiramis had Tammuz, they represent the defiled trinity.

Each religion’s central characters can be traced back to Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz. They became the gods of Egypt, Greece and Rome and now are worshipped by the catholic church and not only, in the form of the father, son and Mary the mother.

Semiramis has been worship under the names Ishtar, Astarte, Rhea, Queen of Heaven and Isis to name just a few while Nimrod has been Ninus, Osiris and Baal. Tammuz also known as Horus and Adonis. One of the most perfect forms of satan's concealment.

Doesn't it really give you food for thought, so many human sacrifices that have been made over time and are still practiced?
Why do you think those people sacrificed their firstborn or other people?

For power man, they knew what they were doing and they know even today that these sacrifices, satanic rituals give them power!

Just as the christian has power from God through the Holy Spirit, that power that calms, that rejoices no matter the hardships, that is represented by altruism and not selfishness like the one I mentioned at the beginning.

However, those who have deceived and deceive humanity the most are also the most deceived by the devil! This is the difference between humility and pride, one sacrifices oneself for the good of the others, the other demands sacrifices from others in order to maintain his "good" state.

As christians believe in the existence of God, so do pagans / occultists / satanists trust in lucifer's (satan) existence and believe in him. If you analyze the situation well, you will see that it is a battle between beliefs. What for christians is considered bad, for others is the absolute good, otherwise why would so many christians be burned at the stake, why are they still persecuted, if it is not faith in the middle?

Don't narrow your line of sight yourself, think about these things.

Even if you have perverse thoughts in your mind with your neighbor or anyone, it's nothing as long as you don't entertain them. If the thought came to you and you immediately changed it, very well, but if you stay and live that dirty thought and maintain it, then it is not normal.
We are not animals, even if you want to consider yourself one. However, moving away from the Word of God can bring man to that stage.

Nice write up!

Coming from both sides of the coin, living far apart from the wisdom of God being hedonistic and covering up my toxic shame which caused my life to crumble and then dealing with my toxic shame, learning to love the little girl inside of me who was not told she was beautiful by her Father healed so much and I completely understood the meaning of having Christ within us.

Here is a post I made on a thread about porn addiction:
From a book I just read called "Healing the shame that binds you"

"Healthy shame is important, it's necessary to be truly human. It gives us permission to be human, tells us our limits, keeps us in our human boundaries, letting us know we can and will make mistakes and that we need help. Our shame tells us we are not God."

"Shame is an affect auxillary, which is like a natural boundary governing excitement and pleasure."

"Toxic shame destroys human life"

"Toxic shame is unbearable and always necessitates a cover up, a false self. Since one feels his true self is defective and flawed one needs a false self that is not defective and flawed. Once one becomes a false self, one ceases to exist psychologically. "

"Shame based sources such as religion and culture turn healthy shame into an all embracing identity. A person with internalized shame believes he is inherently flawed, inferior and defective. Such a feeling is so painful that defending strategies are developed to cover it up. That is the root of violence, criminality, war and all forms of addiction."

"We need our sense of shame as a boundary for our sexual desires."

"Healthy shame forms, directs and fulfills the human sex drive. While toxic shame is the source of depersonalized sexual addiction, healthy shame is the source of truly awesome and reverent intimate sexuality. "

"Sexuality is a prime area of vulnerability and exposure- a sense of shame safeguards the individual from the public observance of private experience. Pornography is precisely the public exposure of sexual matters that belong to the private sphere."

"The reduction of sexuality to temporary pleasure or adult play is due to the general dismissal of shame as the artificial inhibition imposed by a misdirected socialization."

"When depersonalized, the other is no longer a unique, unrepeatable subject, an "I", but is an object to be used and enjoyed. Pornography is an attempt to stimulate sexual feelings and a sexual relationship without the presence of a chosen loved one, i.e., another human being."

"When sex is disengaged from awe, reverence and mystery (healthy shame), it becomes a sickness of soul and falls into the hog pen of spiritual bankruptcy."

 

[Apple]

RP - "The blue spark is a special brain process that happens in a very high energy, focused state of attention. I've seen it mentioned in ancient Hindu writings."

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I think RP transcended (spiritually) long ago... But out of compassion and his supreme kindness to all living beings he keeps giving interviews and responding our silly emails.

 

[LUH 3417]

I think RP transcended (spiritually) long ago... But out of compassion and his supreme kindness to all living beings he keeps giving interviews and responding our silly emails.

Haha yea, I agree. I’ve never sensed irritation or indignation in his voice on any interview. He is a really special person.

 

[mariantos]

Nice write up!

Coming from both sides of the coin, living far apart from the wisdom of God being hedonistic and covering up my toxic shame which caused my life to crumble and then dealing with my toxic shame, learning to love the little girl inside of me who was not told she was beautiful by her Father healed so much and I completely understood the meaning of having Christ within us.

Here is a post I made on a thread about porn addiction:
From a book I just read called "Healing the shame that binds you"

"Healthy shame is important, it's necessary to be truly human. It gives us permission to be human, tells us our limits, keeps us in our human boundaries, letting us know we can and will make mistakes and that we need help. Our shame tells us we are not God."

"Shame is an affect auxillary, which is like a natural boundary governing excitement and pleasure."

"Toxic shame destroys human life"

"Toxic shame is unbearable and always necessitates a cover up, a false self. Since one feels his true self is defective and flawed one needs a false self that is not defective and flawed. Once one becomes a false self, one ceases to exist psychologically. "

"Shame based sources such as religion and culture turn healthy shame into an all embracing identity. A person with internalized shame believes he is inherently flawed, inferior and defective. Such a feeling is so painful that defending strategies are developed to cover it up. That is the root of violence, criminality, war and all forms of addiction."

"We need our sense of shame as a boundary for our sexual desires."

"Healthy shame forms, directs and fulfills the human sex drive. While toxic shame is the source of depersonalized sexual addiction, healthy shame is the source of truly awesome and reverent intimate sexuality. "

"Sexuality is a prime area of vulnerability and exposure- a sense of shame safeguards the individual from the public observance of private experience. Pornography is precisely the public exposure of sexual matters that belong to the private sphere."

"The reduction of sexuality to temporary pleasure or adult play is due to the general dismissal of shame as the artificial inhibition imposed by a misdirected socialization."

"When depersonalized, the other is no longer a unique, unrepeatable subject, an "I", but is an object to be used and enjoyed. Pornography is an attempt to stimulate sexual feelings and a sexual relationship without the presence of a chosen loved one, i.e., another human being."

"When sex is disengaged from awe, reverence and mystery (healthy shame), it becomes a sickness of soul and falls into the hog pen of spiritual bankruptcy."

Yes, it is good that you managed to realize that what you were doing was not exactly the best way to go.

The Lord has mercy on his children and allows certain things to happen to them, to go through more unpleasant situations in their lives, just to show them that their way is wrong and thus to save their souls.

I rejoice because you have trusted in Christ and in His cleansing blood through which the Father has washed us of all our "filth."

May the Lord keep you in His care!

 

[InChristAlone]

Yes, it is good that you managed to realize that what you were doing was not exactly the best way to go.

The Lord has mercy on his children and allows certain things to happen to them, to go through more unpleasant situations in their lives, just to show them that their way is wrong and thus to save their souls.

I rejoice because you have trusted in Christ and in His cleansing blood through which the Father has washed us of all our "filth."

May the Lord keep you in His care!

Thanks!

 

[tankasnowgod]

Laws were written by men that believe in the Creator. What a sweeping statement. The Romans, whose code of law is the backbone of your precious constitution, and whose Republic lasted longer than yours ever will, didn't believe in the creator,

Hmmm, never heard of "Constantine," have you?

nor did the Athenians that invented institutionalized democracy for you Christians,

The United States of America isn't a democracy. It's a Republic.

thank you very much. I'm quite certain that most of the founding fathers and intellectual pioneers of the Revolution were smart enough not to believe in fairytales, either.

Again, all you have to do is read the Declaration of Independence, and not but two paragraphs in, you will be proven wrong. It's literally the backbone of the document.

What part of "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Maybe you just don't know how to read?

Your constitution doesn't mention a creator or god even once, by the way.

Nor does it mention the word "democracy."

But that's fine, there is no need to mention God or the Creator there. It's a trust document that formed the Federal Government. If you knew anything about The Republic, you would know we celebrate July 4th, which commemorates the signing of the Declaration of Independence, and we say the nation was born in 1776. Not 1787, when the Constitution was signed. September 17th isn't a recognized holiday.

Have you noticed you are just repeating your dogma over and over again? God exists because he exists - natural law was made by god. You are going round and round in circles, my friend. It's a wonder you don't get dizzy.

I have only noticed I keep mentioning the same things because you haven't brought up any new points to back up your argument. You asked not to take it any further, I agreed in my response, and yet, here you are, violating your own offer. You haven't offered any other argument that The Creator doesn't exist other than the fact that you don't believe it.

 

[tankasnowgod]

I'm quite certain that most of the founding fathers and intellectual pioneers of the Revolution were smart enough not to believe in fairytales, either. Tom Paine and Jefferson certainly were.

Lol, the two examples you give both believed in a single God, though they might not have believed in any of the major religions. Tom Paine explicitly states he believes in a single God in The Age of Reason. They certainly aren't atheists, at least not according to their writings.

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

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Sounds like you’re talking about me in this thread

Food Layering & Better Digestion

There is a lot of talk on food "pairing" whilst "Peating", but I am finding that food "layering" is a step worth taking farther. With digestion function being the biggest player in how successful we are at being healthy it makes sense to think about these things. Things like having my honeycomb...

raypeatforum.com

• the person with liver problems in that thread is “AndrewGesell” and at no point did we interact in that thread nor did I go out of my way to give him advice to eat avocados.

• there’s more to health than following a diet to the T. Some problems run deeper than nutrition. And I disagree with the one size fits all approach to food. I’m interested in experimenting on myself

• there are moderators on raypeatforum, and they’re free to ban me if they believe my advice is potentially lethal and that I’m undermining the credibility of the forum.

The exchange did not happen in my thread. I am sure the administrators would ban more people if people reported stuff. That report option is there because they can't even begin to read everything people write all day everyday amdcall night long. I don't report stuff, but maybe in the future with extreme situations when somebody can get hurt I will. I will have to give it a look now to put this to rest. I have no issue with people experimenting on themselves, just with them bringing down unsuspecting others with them.

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

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The exchange did not happen in my thread. I am sure the administrators would ban more people if people reported stuff. That report option is there because they can't even begin to read everything people write all day everyday amdcall night long. I don't report stuff, but maybe in the future with extreme situations when somebody can get hurt I will. I will have to give it a look now to put this to rest. I have no issue with people experimenting on themselves, just with them bringing down unsuspecting others with them.

Oh I guess it was in my threas. I don't thing the conversation was far off from what I said.

 

[ursidae]

Oh I guess it was in my threas. I don't thing the conversation was far off from what I said.

Once again, I did not advise AndrewGesell to eat avocado.

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

Once again, I did not advise AndrewGesell to eat avocado.

I wasn't trying to call you out personally, it was just one of many that came to mind. Nobody knew I was talking about you. I just don't understand if Ray Peat is not working for you, than why aren't you taking your good advice about acne to a /dermatology skin sight? I am asking that question to a lot of people on this site promoting low carb and keto and lots of suppliments. If the name of this site didn't have Ray Peat's name on it and said some more indicating "anything goes" I get it. Ray Peat did not make this site, he is just as irritated with a lot of people on this site too. Who can blame him, he is misquoted all day long and blamed for people's health going down the drain, with people in the hospital!

 

[Blossom]

I wasn't trying to call you out personally, it was just one of many that came to mind. Nobody knew I was talking about you. I just don't understand if Ray Peat is not working for you, than why aren't you taking your good advice about acne to a /dermatology skin sight? I am asking that question to a lot of people on this site promoting low carb and keto and lots of suppliments. If the name of this site didn't have Ray Peat's name on it and said some more indicating "anything goes" I get it. Ray Peat did not make this site, he is just as irritated with a lot of people on this site too. Who can blame him, he is misquoted all day long and blamed for people's health going down the drain, with people in the hospital!

People are seriously just discussing ideas and experiences here. If a person ends up in the hospital because they decide to try something they read online then I must say for the record that’s on them. We all have to be responsible for our own choices. Nothing on this site is medical advice.

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

People are seriously just discussing ideas and experiences here. If a person ends up in the hospital because they decide to try something they read online then I must say for the record that’s on them. We all have to be responsible for our own choices. Nothing on this site is medical advice.

Yeah that is exactly right. This site does not have the credibility that it had 5 years ago when I first came to it. There is a bunch of blah blah blah now. I feel bad for newcomers, Ray Peat and Charlie having to keep up with all the bs, this is me discussing my ideas and experiences.

 

[Blossom]

This site does not have the credibility that it had 5 years ago when I first came to it.

I’m sorry you feel that way. I think we have a good group of generally sincere people just doing their best. Things ebb and flow in life and cycle through highs and lows but I feel this place has stood the test of time.

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

I’m sorry you feel that way. I think we have a good group of generally sincere people just doing their best. Things ebb and flow in life and cycle through highs and lows but I feel this place has stood the test of time.

I love this site, don't get me wrong, if it weren't for so many wonderful and intelligent people I wouldn't be here. I have never subscribed to Facebook or any social media as they are a waste of my good time. I get a lot of value from the forum, but I have been following it for almost five years and know who the real "Peater's" are, and when I want advice that is who I refer to. Being this thread is about a gripe about the "credibility of the forum" i am just agreeing for my own reasons.

 

[InChristAlone]

I've been spending more time on here as I'm not on any other social media at the moment and I'm starting to get that same feeling in the beginning when I followed everything Ray Peat said. Treating him like some kind of guru that had special knowledge other people cannot attain. Unfortunately he is fallible just like everyone else in the world. He doesn't have special knowledge, just reads a boat load of studies and does a lot of research. Some of those studies cannot be taken as black and white like he has taken them. I believe Peat has some autistic like traits which means he has more of a black and white stance on things he has decided are bad and things he has decided are good. Thankfully he does say that the only protocol is to perceive, think, act. And that is how I live my life. Some things about the Peat inspired way of doing things I wish SO WISH I would have never followed. He's not giving medical advice, and most of his followers take it as such. I've been at this for 10 yrs and still come back to many of the principles, but some of the details are so individual and contextual and not anywhere near as black and white which is why I still love Peat for saying
Perceive, Think, Act

 

[Doc Sandoz]

I've been spending more time on here as I'm not on any other social media at the moment and I'm starting to get that same feeling in the beginning when I followed everything Ray Peat said. Treating him like some kind of guru that had special knowledge other people cannot attain. Unfortunately he is fallible just like everyone else in the world. He doesn't have special knowledge, just reads a boat load of studies and does a lot of research. Some of those studies cannot be taken as black and white like he has taken them. I believe Peat has some autistic like traits which means he has more of a black and white stance on things he has decided are bad and things he has decided are good. Thankfully he does say that the only protocol is to perceive, think, act. And that is how I live my life. Some things about the Peat inspired way of doing things I wish SO WISH I would have never followed. He's not giving medical advice, and most of his followers take it as such. I've been at this for 10 yrs and still come back to many of the principles, but some of the details are so individual and contextual and not anywhere near as black and white which is why I still love Peat for saying
Perceive, Think, Act

Compared with other social media sites this place is grand. Sure, lots of strange posts, far-out theories and such, but those are easily weeded through. I do wonder about newcomers looking for a guru yet I have only been on here about 15 months myself and I've learned to "swim" just fine.

As to Peating, I've tried a lot of his suggestions - diet-wise, supplement-wise and hormone-wise. The dietary suggestions are the best. I can only do certain supps, finding all the oil soluble vitamins intolerable even at very low doses. But that's me of course, and Peat doesn't recommend them anyway. Then there are the hormones - can't really do anywhere near the doses Ray suggests of the holy grails - progesterone and thyroid - or anything else for that matter - microdosing is barely tolerable. But again I have extremely uncomfortable reactions to most allopathic meds too - like every blood pressure "medicine" I've tried. (Learned the most recent one - ACE inhibitor - is an analogue of Pit Viper venom - oh boy).

Anyway, to me, the essence of "Peating" is careful experimentation on one's self based on Ray's observations. Best dietary changes: delete as much PUFA as possible, eat daily carrot salad, an aspirin a day, more natural Ca via milk products, try to balance protein intake (more glycine less methionine etc), sugar is better than starch, fruit is generally better than refined sugar (but always have one Mexican coke per day!)

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

Compared with other social media sites this place is grand. Sure, lots of strange posts, far-out theories and such, but those are easily weeded through. I do wonder about newcomers looking for a guru yet I have only been on here about 15 months myself and I've learned to "swim" just fine.

As to Peating, I've tried a lot of his suggestions - diet-wise, supplement-wise and hormone-wise. The dietary suggestions are the best. I can only do certain supps, finding all the oil soluble vitamins intolerable even at very low doses. But that's me of course, and Peat doesn't recommend them anyway. Then there are the hormones - can't really do anywhere near the doses Ray suggests of the holy grails - progesterone and thyroid - or anything else for that matter - microdosing is barely tolerable. But again I have extremely uncomfortable reactions to most allopathic meds too - like every blood pressure "medicine" I've tried. (Learned the most recent one - ACE inhibitor - is an analogue of Pit Viper venom - oh boy).

Anyway, to me, the essence of "Peating" is careful experimentation on one's self based on Ray's observations. Best dietary changes: delete as much PUFA as possible, eat daily carrot salad, an aspirin a day, more natural Ca via milk products, try to balance protein intake (more glycine less methionine etc), sugar is better than starch, fruit is generally better than refined sugar (but always have one Mexican coke per day!)

Perfect! I often wonder how many people complaining about the Ray Peat recommendations really ate their weekly 6 ounces of liver and weekly oysters, and cut out ALL starches and didn't pop suppliments?

 

[Doc Sandoz]

Perfect! I often wonder how many people complaining about the Ray Peat recommendations really ate their weekly 6 ounces of liver and weekly oysters, and cut out ALL starches and didn't pop suppliments?

Oh thanks Rinse, I forgot to add the oysters which I'm now eating a tin three times a week for the extra zinc. Also doing quercetin, not because Peat, but because it is needed to get zinc inside the cells.

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

Oh thanks Rinse, I forgot to add the oysters which I'm now eating a tin three times a week for the extra zinc. Also doing quercetin, not because Peat, but because it is needed to get zinc inside the cells.

Ha! I love it! I absolutely could not get liver down until reading more from Peat, that liver tastes bad because it is suppose to be eaten very fresh, not the stuff sitting in the grocery stores, which is so terrible tasting!. Now I crave it!