Socialising

[dreamcatcher]

Being health conscious and following a lifestyle based on Ray Peat's ideas seems to make it a bit difficult for me to interact and connect with people on a deeper level. There are those who would follow the mainstream health gurus and consider me being misguided..or people unaware about the principles of health, thinking that I'm health obsessed. I either have to pretend to be someone who I'm not to be able to socialize (eating out in restaurants where food is loaded with PUFAs-why would I want to do that!?) or isolate myself and learn to become content solely in my own company.

 

[raypeatclips]

Restaraunt meals are just 1 meal out of a year full of meals. You can always find one meal on a menu that is half decent. Grilled meats instead of fried, boiled rice or potatoes instead of chips, no mayo etc. Some people might just eat what they want and take some vitamin E. It's not worth obsessing over I don't think. Some people eat out at restaraunts multiple times a day, one time can't be that damaging.

Also when the topic of health comes up I usually just try and change the subject as quick as possible onto something more interesting, I've got no desire to argue with people at work about health. There is one guy that does argue, and is interesting pro saturated fat, and he never changes anyone's opinions.

 

[dreamcatcher]

Thank you @raypeatclips you are right.
It's mainly the oils which bother me. I will need to order some vitamin E again..in the UK it's pretty normal (just like anywhere else in the world) for people to regularly eat out, like in pubs, where food is cheaper.
It's a good idea to avoid talking about health. Over a year ago my ex boyfriend was very unhappy with my food choices and wanted me to eat the same foods as him (using veg oils and eating the cheapest foods from Aldi). I compromised for some time to save the relationship but eventually it became difficult. I would never do that again.

 

[Amazoniac]

But guru, doing something that you're not comfortable with just to keep people around you is repeating the process over again. Not being able to interact or connect with people as you used to seems an issue beyond food.
Other than the antidote in your medic bag, consider preparing for a restaurant by adding a headband, camouflage clothing and face paint.

 

[raypeatclips]

Thank you @raypeatclips you are right.
It's mainly the oils which bother me. I will need to order some vitamin E again..in the UK it's pretty normal (just like anywhere else in the world) for people to regularly eat out, like in pubs, where food is cheaper.
It's a good idea to avoid talking about health. Over a year ago my ex boyfriend was very unhappy with my food choices and wanted me to eat the same foods as him (using veg oils and eating the cheapest foods from Aldi). I compromised for some time to save the relationship but eventually it became difficult. I would never do that again.

In pubs such as Wetherspoons I'd typically go for a burger without a high PUFA sauce on, with a side of halloumi and coke or orange juice as my drink, leaving the chips or offering them to someone else. Delicious, easy, fairly PUFA free.

I can imagine that being difficult. My girlfriend eats PUFA food, but I'd never tell her not to do it. She says she knows things like chips aren't healthy, she doesn't eat them to be healthy, but does it because she enjoys them. In fact, she is actually much healthier than I am.

 

[dreamcatcher]

It is true, it's an issue beyond food. It's also about a certain way of thinking, ideas and concepts about life.
Btw. I prefer being authentic to myself, it was a big lesson.

 

[dreamcatcher]

@raypeatclips it's great that you respect eachother's choices and are open-minded, it's a road to unconditional love.

 

[Lecarpetron]

Being health conscious and following a lifestyle based on Ray Peat's ideas seems to make it a bit difficult for me to interact and connect with people on a deeper level.

I feel this way too but for different reasons (I eat at restaurants pretty frequently). It seems like everyone where I live is interested in only political activism, endurance exercise, and general overachievement. I struggle to connect with people, I'm working on that now more than on food stuff.

 

[Amazoniac]

I don't know if it relates to you, but people often start to be concerned about health once they notice things are going hills of the downs. At this point, the attention is to basic needs, so the interests of people around you might appear superficial and it can be more difficult to connect. If people think that you're health-obsessed, it's probably because it's revealing some sort of weakness, otherwise you would inspire them to join you.

And have you tried to spank the person you love? If the love ended afterwards, it wasn't unconditional.

 

[Amazoniac]

You can always buy people's friendship.
There are those who think that food isn't a great gift for not lasting like an object. However! The object can be part of someone's ambient composition, but food becomes part of their constitution. Is there anything cooler than that (other than Travo's blog, that should be up soon)? You're building up a person.

 

[dreamcatcher]

I feel this way too but for different reasons (I eat at restaurants pretty frequently). It seems like everyone where I live is interested in only political activism, endurance exercise, and general overachievement. I struggle to connect with people, I'm working on that now more than on food stuff.

I understand, it's like finding like minded people.

 

[dreamcatcher]

I don't know if it relates to you, but people often start to be concerned about health once they notice things are going hills of the downs. At this point, the attention is to basic needs, so the interests of people around you might appear superficial and it can be more difficult to connect. If people think that you're health-obsessed, it's probably because it's revealing some sort of weakness, otherwise you would inspire them to join you.

And have you tried to spank the person you love? If the love ended afterwards, it wasn't unconditional.

I agree, when people are only interested in superficial things, it's more difficult to connect.
It's mainly my mum and family who never cared about nutrition (and suffer health wise) think that I'm obsessed with health.
My mum is into new age and doesn't believe in science based nutrition.

 

[nwo2012]

Unfortunately it's worse than just talking about health, pretty much every topic you can talk about leads to disagreements as most people believe EVERYTHING they hear in their latest episode of learned helplessness AKA 'The News'.
It takes time, but eventually you surround yourself with like minded people, and find you can discuss a lot of topics without constantly arguing. Each to their own, but I don't need a large number of people to socialize with just because Ive known these people for a long time. You can't pick your family, but you sure can pick your friends.

 

[Amazoniac]

I agree, when people are only interested in superficial things, it's more difficult to connect.
It's mainly my mum and family who never cared about nutrition (and suffer health wise) think that I'm obsessed with health.
My mum is into new age and doesn't believe in science based nutrition.

But I guess the superficial is subjective and others in turn might view their interests as too elemental.
People that are into nutrition often neglect that problems can still happen on a pristine diet, what if your neighbor has the habit of playing Rolling Stones every night before you go to do the sleeps?

 

[nwo2012]

I agree, when people are only interested in superficial things, it's more difficult to connect.
It's mainly my mum and family who never cared about nutrition (and suffer health wise) think that I'm obsessed with health.
My mum is into new age and doesn't believe in science based nutrition.

Let them think that, they are correct in a way. And what's wrong with that anyways? If going all out to keep your health optimum and prevent your chances of winning the cancer lottery, as I call it, is an obsession then it is a worthwhile one.

 

[Jennifer]

what if your neighbor has the habit of playing Rolling Stones every night before you go to do the sleeps?

You dance, of course!

 

[Amazoniac]

You dance, of course!

What do you prefer, to socialize in a pub that's going to feature a Rolling Stones cover band for the entire evening or this?

 

[nwo2012]

What do you prefer, to socialize in a pub that's going to feature a Rolling Stones cover band for the entire evening or this?

Hmm, not much of a choice. Rolling Stones aren't quite that bad, lol.

Did you try earplugs, or zero EMF earbuds with meditation music?

 

[Amazoniac]

Hmm, not much of a choice. Rolling Stones aren't quite that bad, lol.

Did you try earplugs, or zero EMF earbuds with meditation music?

Can you imagine what is it like for Daniel, jyb, raypeatclips and Rosie having to grow up listening to them?
For me, the neighbor tribe fortunately only owns berimbaus.

 

[dreamcatcher]

Let them think that, they are correct in a way. And what's wrong with that anyways? If going all out to keep your health optimum and prevent your chances of winning the cancer lottery, as I call it, is an obsession then it is a worthwhile one.

I grew up listening to loud music at home as my parents liked to turn the volume on! I pretty much liked it, am a musician.

 

[nwo2012]

Can you imagine what is it like for Daniel, jyb, raypeatclips and Rosie having to grow up listening to them?
For me, the neighbor tribe fortunately only owns berimbaus.

Hahaha. They will never undo the damage done. May as well turn to Atkin's.