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What do you prefer, to socialize in a pub that's going to feature a Rolling Stones cover band for the entire evening or this?
Depends. Does the dripping water have a good beat to it?
I grew up listening to loud music at home as my parents liked to turn the volume on! I pretty much liked it, am a musician.
Nice! I knew I liked you. :D
 
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Let them think that, they are correct in a way. And what's wrong with that anyways? If going all out to keep your health optimum and prevent your chances of winning the cancer lottery, as I call it, is an obsession then it is a worthwhile one.
Depends. Does the dripping water have a good beat to it?

Nice! I knew I liked you. :D
Haha thank you :kissingheart: what do you play?
 

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Haha thank you :kissingheart: what do you play?
I don't play an instrument, I just have a great appreciation for music and musicians. My dad's a musician, even had a play on Broadway, so growing up there was constant music playing at the house — his studio was there and he also practiced with his band there. My thing is dancing. I was a dancer and did competitive cheerleading growing up and later sang — I was part of a traveling choral group. I own a dulcimer, but haven't played it enough to say I play an instrument. lol What instrument(s) do you play?
 
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I don't play an instrument, I just have a great appreciation for music and musicians. My dad's a musician, even had a play on Broadway, so growing up there was constant music playing at the house — his studio was there and he also practiced with his band there. My thing is dancing. I was a dancer and did competitive cheerleading growing up and later sang — I was part of a traveling choral group. I own a dulcimer, but haven't played it enough to say I play an instrument. lol What instrument(s) do you play?
Those must have been awesome memories! It's great that you like dancing, it uplifts your spirit! I love dancing too, would always be the last to leave a concert. I studied piano at a music conservatory.
 

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Those must have been awesome memories! It's great that you like dancing, it uplifts your spirit! I love dancing too, would always be the last to leave a concert. I studied piano at a music conservatory.
Yep, absolutely! Dancing is my therapy. That's so cool that you studied at a conservatory. I love the piano! :)
 

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Living the Peat lifestyle and having the powerful knowledge is like living in Middle Earth:

"You're a ring bearer Rosie, to bear a ring of power is to be alone" :crown:

Haha seriously though. It's been that way for me and my closest peeps pretty much my whole life. When you have a deeper knowledge of the repercussions of your actions, and a higher standard of life quality for yourself, it makes you an outsider. I find solace in that.
 

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It seems like everyone where I live is interested in only political activism, endurance exercise, and general overachievement. I struggle to connect with people, I'm working on that now more than on food stuff.

Same. Those three things + binge drinking. In my case, I think it's because I live uptown in a big city. Not sure if your environment is similar.
 
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Being health conscious and following a lifestyle based on Ray Peat's ideas seems to make it a bit difficult for me to interact and connect with people on a deeper level. There are those who would follow the mainstream health gurus and consider me being misguided..or people unaware about the principles of health, thinking that I'm health obsessed. I either have to pretend to be someone who I'm not to be able to socialize (eating out in restaurants where food is loaded with PUFAs-why would I want to do that!?) or isolate myself and learn to become content solely in my own company.

It's hard to eat at bars or at trendy vegan places because everything is drenched in PUFAs, but I think many of the nicer, more traditional restaurants where I live still make ample use of butter, cream, etc. Especially when I'm in more rural areas and not in the city. Not sure how it is in the UK though.
 

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Haha seriously though. It's been that way for me and my closest peeps pretty much my whole life. When you have a deeper knowledge of the repercussions of your actions, and a higher standard of life quality for yourself, it makes you an outsider.
Yeah, that!

It's nice to have people we can relate to, but I also like interacting with people who are different from me. That's one reason why I'm still here. There aren't exactly a lot of vegans around these parts (lol), but I never want to become intolerant like those who have been intolerant to me. Some of the people I love most in the world have polar opposite views from me, but we respect each other. We're confident in who we are and what we believe so we don't have this need to get the other to believe what we do. It's nice.
 

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Yeah, that!

It's nice to have people we can relate to, but I also like interacting with people who are different from me. That's one reason why I'm still here. There aren't exactly a lot of vegans around these parts (lol), but I never want to become intolerant like those who have been intolerant to me. Some of the people I love most in the world have polar opposite views from me, but we respect each other. We're confident in who we are and what we believe so we don't have this need to get the other to believe what we do. It's nice.

One of my good friends quotes a professor of his to me once who said "only a fool doesn't shop the market place of ideas"

It's so true. I am a non denominational Christian (since 17 years old) but I also am a man of visceral data and I have a passion for learning science. One of my best friends is an atheist yet has given me a more dynamic view of my own faith. People who shun others for their inconsequential choices are just people who live in fear and insecurity.
 

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One of my good friends quotes a professor of his to me once who said "only a fool doesn't shop the market place of ideas"

It's so true. I am a non denominational Christian (since 17 years old) but I also am a man of visceral data and I have a passion for learning science. One of my best friends is an atheist yet has given me a more dynamic view of my own faith. People who shun others for their inconsequential choices are just people who live in fear and insecurity.
Great quote!

I can relate. I'm spiritual and vegan and my brother and old hiking partner is atheist and a hunter and besides trusting him with my life, he helped me in a very compassionate way to come to terms with eating meat back when I thought I had to for my health. Love that boy!
 

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Same. Those three things + binge drinking. In my case, I think it's because I live uptown in a big city. Not sure if your environment is similar.

Oh yes, how could I neglect to mention binge drinking. I'm in a college town, but most of the non-student population is from a big city. And they have no room in their lives for non-triathletes who don't even bother to memorize what John Oliver said last night.
 

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I loath the drinking culture, I do not do it, it’s for many reasons, I am replused by degenerates.

I think there are big differences in people who do not drink and people who regularly binge drink, it defines character and is used for meeting women, business, friends etc, if a person doesn’t do this, it’s a different life.

I admire Donald J and Vlad Putin for not drinking.
 

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Being health conscious and following a lifestyle based on Ray Peat's ideas seems to make it a bit difficult for me to interact and connect with people on a deeper level. There are those who would follow the mainstream health gurus and consider me being misguided..or people unaware about the principles of health, thinking that I'm health obsessed. I either have to pretend to be someone who I'm not to be able to socialize (eating out in restaurants where food is loaded with PUFAs-why would I want to do that!?) or isolate myself and learn to become content solely in my own company.
you are not the only one , in the university i study in , i,m the only one who doesn't eat in the restaurant , even if i eat i will only take some oranges ( in the winter ) or one egg hardly boiled in water but most of the time i avoid it because they use vegetable oils even in the white rice salad they put oil ,, so what i do is i don't interact with anyone , i just buy milk and take coffee with sugar with me and i eat this combo at 12 pm .
 
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you are not the only one , in the university i study in , i,m the only one who doesn't eat in the restaurant , even if i eat i will only take some oranges ( in the winter ) or one egg hardly boiled in water but most of the time i avoid it because they use vegetable oils even in the white rice salad they put oil ,, so what i do is i don't interact with anyone , i just buy milk and take coffee with sugar with me and i eat this combo at 12 pm .
Hope you do have friends though. I'm always respectful towards what people choose to eat but often find myself being criticized (mainly by close relatives) about my food choices.
 

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Hope you do have friends though. I'm always respectful towards what people choose to eat but often find myself being criticized (mainly by close relatives) about my food choices.
yes but i just pass time with them a little , i enjoy walking alone than staying with them , they talk in subjects that i,m not interested in most of the time (lol).
if they ask me questions about my lifestyle i answer them , sometimes they want details and sometimes ignore what i say , it's up for them to see , if they are back home they will stil remember what i said so they will write it in google and search .
 

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Living the Peat lifestyle and having the powerful knowledge is like living in Middle Earth:

"You're a ring bearer Rosie, to bear a ring of power is to be alone" :crown:

Haha seriously though. It's been that way for me and my closest peeps pretty much my whole life. When you have a deeper knowledge of the repercussions of your actions, and a higher standard of life quality for yourself, it makes you an outsider. I find solace in that.

Absolutely! Having ones own family and just a few close friends is more than enough. Neither need nor want to share things in common with the sheep. And spend as little time as possible in their company, i.e go to work to get paid, not socialize.
 

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Being health conscious and following a lifestyle based on Ray Peat's ideas seems to make it a bit difficult for me to interact and connect with people on a deeper level. There are those who would follow the mainstream health gurus and consider me being misguided..or people unaware about the principles of health, thinking that I'm health obsessed. I either have to pretend to be someone who I'm not to be able to socialize (eating out in restaurants where food is loaded with PUFAs-why would I want to do that!?) or isolate myself and learn to become content solely in my own company.
If you have a boyfriend and he respects your food patterns, then I see no isolation or such a big problem, but I don't require a lot of socialization, just working (which I do surrounded by people that doesn't share but neither does need to share my feeding habits) and having a girlfriend or something similar works for me.
I'm not gonna waste years of trying to get rid of PUFA and healthier for sharing a piece of poison together while we could share a good food, that's even more expensive. I mean, you have to choose, and I made my decision a long time ago...if you really think that PUFA is poison or are experimenting to feel better and you exchange that for your boyfriend, fine, I guess that's more important, but at least now I'm not gonna stand someone telling me what to eat
 

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