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Peat also talks briefly in this interview about the amino-acid content of milk, noting that it indeed contains more tryptophan and cysteine than what's ideal. He says combining milk with gelatin solves that problem, but many forum users would beg to differ. I feel like it's still repeated on the forum that meat has too much phosphorous and too much of the inflammatory amino-acids. I think they mean well, and I initially thought too that meat had way more of these substances than milk or cheese, but when I looked at the composition of these foods and compared them well, I found that not to be true: meat has way less tryptophan than milk or cheese, and about the same amount of methionine. Milk does have less cysteine, but cheese has pretty much the same amount. Regarding phosphorous, if you get 100 grams of protein from milk, you'll get around 2,7 grams of phosphorous, but 100 grams of protein in the form of meat will only provide 900mg of this mineral. Yes, meat has very little calcium, but that is easy to supplement, and if you use a mineral water that is very rich in calcium, you don't even need to supplement. Fructose also lowers phosphate, so does niacinamide( which meat has a lot of).Starting at 21:00 peat talks about the muscles oxidizing fatty acids and sparing glucose for the brain and heart. I think its really important for people to hear this, especially in the low fat camp who are needing to eat sugars or carbs every hour just to maintain thier blood sugar so they dont get adrenaline rushes.
One of adrenalines main purposes is to release fatty acids from storage as well as glycogen. In my experience in the absence of adequate fatty acids from the diet due to low fat diets the body is forced to release fatty acids from the tissues unless carbs are constantly supplied, in order to provide enough substrate for the muscles, organs and brain to properly function.
In my experience adding long chain saturated and monounsaturated fats not only didnt cause weight gain it causef weight loss and a leaning out while keeping muscles strong and firm. I think this is the testosterone effect peat is reffering to. Hormonal profile trumps calories in/ calories out dogma.
Hormonal profile trumps calories in/ calories out dogma.
Starting at 21:00 peat talks about the muscles oxidizing fatty acids and sparing glucose for the brain and heart. I think its really important for people to hear this, especially in the low fat camp who are needing to eat sugars or carbs every hour just to maintain thier blood sugar so they dont get adrenaline rushes.
One of adrenalines main purposes is to release fatty acids from storage as well as glycogen. In my experience in the absence of adequate fatty acids from the diet due to low fat diets the body is forced to release fatty acids from the tissues unless carbs are constantly supplied, in order to provide enough substrate for the muscles, organs and brain to properly function.
Yeah I have done the math, and gelatin is simply not enough to overcome the tryptophan in milk. Not if milk is your primary protein source at least. maybe if you limit it to a cup or two. Milk remains the one thing I don't see eye to eye on Peat with. You can't turn a Fernstrom ratio of say 0.06 into something reasonable with gelatin, you just can't. Unless you want to eat 100 gram of gelatin in a day, which is just silly.He says combining milk with gelatin solves that problem, but many forum users would beg to differ
@Cirion
I’m cool with not seeing eye to eye on the info. Its just info to me, were all figuring our own sh*t out and I’m definetly not an authority. Just some assh*le on the internet sharing my experience.
As for the metrics the only thing that would change would be my temp. My weight is the same every morning (188-189) and the same every night (185). Its been this way for a year. My pulse upon waking is pretty much always 60bpm and it raises into the 70-80s after meals. My temp after meals always goes up into the 98’s, sometimes to 99.0, but if i havent slept that much then it doesnt usually go up that much, maybe mid 98’s. I tracked my pulse and temp for about 2 months before I got tired of it. I guage my overall health more on how i feel, my libido, mental function, digestion, ability to workout and recover and my symtpoms like hairloss (which has completely stopped for a while now).
I think the fat being liberated by adrenaline is different than the fat being eaten exogenously and used by the muscles via enhanced fat oxidation from androgens. I dont even focus on the idea of fat being oxidized from tissues in terms of losing weight, i think thats besides the point entirely. I think the hormonal environment is way more important and I think that low fat diets wreck the hormonal environment. I think if enough fat is eaten, even with a fat person, androgens can be raised, cortisol and estrogen lowered and the fat will literally melt off within a few weeks. I doubt most of it is fat anyway, i think alot of it is water weight in the tissues from a shitty hormonal environment. I was fat at one point, 220lbs at probably 20% bodyfat. Lost all the weight in 2 weeks after dropping milk and fixing my diet. Literally pissed it out. My libido came back right away, my digestion cleared up and my acne went away. Hairloss slowed significantly.
Please post what you eat daily if you are getting 900g carbs, i heavily doubt that. 100g of carbs is very little that i agree with, but 300g is more than enough for most people.Just finished listening. Good stuff, I just still can't agree with Ray on milk, and I was also disappointed when he said you only need like 100-300 grams of carbs a day. It sounds like Ray ascribes to a low calorie diet (When you consider he also likes low fat diets. I do also, but not the low carbs he suggests.) Seems counter-against what some of the other things he says in other articles - 98.6F temp and 85 BPM pulse. You can't achieve those on only 300 gram carbs a day, let alone 100. I think that's probably why most people here are failing on low fat - if you also eat low carb, that's definitely gonna cause problems and the very stress reactions he advocates against in this discussion. My data is showing I need upwards of 900g carbs a day (over three times what he recommends) to achieve 98.6F temps and 85BPM pulses.
Please post what you eat daily if you are getting 900g carbs, i heavily doubt that. 100g of carbs is very little that i agree with, but 300g is more than enough for most people.
This is what I had yesterday and today I had 98.5F waking temp and 80 BPM waking pulse.
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I have been collecting data for 2 months now, and continuing to get more every day. Here is what I have so far on carbs vs. waking temps and pulses. I had no occurrence of days with a proper waking pulse or temp with less than around 700 grams of carbs. I have more plots in my thread I made here if curious. Determining Effect Of Diet On Metabolism And Weight Loss/Gain Through Data Collection
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