Mossy
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Excellent. Everyone wins.When a farmer uses animals to keep the soil healthy and fertile he will probably have more profit despite less crops.
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Excellent. Everyone wins.When a farmer uses animals to keep the soil healthy and fertile he will probably have more profit despite less crops.
vegetarians are the most annoying group out of all of them because they speak from a place of privilege of being able to tolerate eggs and dairy very well -two of the most problematic and allergenic foods out there. If you couldn't make eggs and dairy your staple protein source, you'll either waste away being vegan or you'd quickly get off your high horse and realise that you NEED fish/meat. Not to mention eggs and dairy are the byproduct of the same maligned industry. (This is why you go for free range/wild/grass fed which is talked about on his forum all the time, not necessarily for moral reasons but more in the interest of health and food quality). You need to go full vegan, Adam, because your current stance is very hypocritical. You need to practice the advice you preach to those who are dairy and egg intolerant
Agree, it's not a religion.
Adam's post, though, was filled with the passive-aggressive-type evangelization that is so typical of activist vegans. Live-and-let-live seems to be antithetical to their values. There's always this guilt-inducing moralization tone to their comments
You make aot of excellent points here, and I agree with you. Not triggered at all!! Animals are treated very inhumanely in my opinion. Humans can do better and some are trying, I think. For me, I feel heavy, acidic and lethargic, and I gain weight, when I eat meat. I can't consume any dairy due to severe intolerances. I'm a fan of individualism and people making their own decisions and choices about how they live their lives. No force, no mandates of any kind.
Hey Perry, thank you for your criticism. As I said in my previous post, I'm not judging you or anyone else on your dietary choice. I'm also not Christian nor follow any particular religion. I didn't even mention a religion. I am blunt and straightforward, which combined with the inability to sense empathy through text, is often a recipe that invokes emotion. Maybe that's what was mistaken for evangelism? It certainly upsets many readers.
The OP was observing or querying why there is an increase in plant based meats/plant based living, I shared my opinions why, with some evidence. It was not and is not my intention to make you feel guilty, however if you feel like you're being guilted by seeing said evidence, then that's your own personal conscience feeling guilty. That's you. That's human nature.
Plant based living is a growing industry, why? Well with modern access to information, more people are seeing the darker side of the meat industry, more people are questioning what is right and what is wrong. I'm not telling you what you think is right is wrong. I'm simply stating there are more people questioning it, whilst sharing what I think is right and wrong.
Another simple reason is when niche groups get big enough, more and more people will flock to it just to see what's so special about it. People like to be in with the crowd.
Assuming it was my footnote that gave you that impression of me, I don't believe my footnote was wrong. Many people who are in a group with a unified belief system, are very emotional and feel very attacked whenever their beliefs are challenged. Vegans, carnivores, political groups, religions, cults, all have programmed belief systems.
I didn't say any particular system of belief is false or wrong. I said if someone is quick to anger about something that counters their group belief, that is likely their programming from that group. I see this every single day, people who react like this don't allow themselves to grow and don't challenge their groups beliefs. It is of my opinion that more people should accept and allow their views to be challenged. Accept a good debate. For how can you know you have a strong value if you don't challenge it? Instead many people respond by getting mad and often insulting the opposing view, completely ignoring any information presented. Vegans have become quite notorious for this, but it's in all groups, Especially politics.
I was rather brash in those last few paragraphs. It also wasn't necessary to say. But I am who I am and will say what I say. I don't give a hoot how you live your life, nor will I try to change you or your diet. Be merry eating meat if that is what makes you merry Perry.
For the record, I like the English accent, but in the context in which you describe it I get your joke.And if you happen to find upper class English accents pretentious and annoying when voiced by zoomer-aged brats, fear thou not, for Ms. Peterson is Canadian.
isn't planet based diet just a diet where someone gets a majority of their calories from plants? what is wrong with that? what is wrong with getting most of your calories from fruit and tubers and eating some meat and dairy? plenty of people here eat that way from what i have seen. now plant based =/= vegan.
I think in the vegan circles the distinction is made to differentiate between a person who does it for ethical reasons (vegan) and someone who is dieting (plant based)isn't planet based diet just a diet where someone gets a majority of their calories from plants? what is wrong with that? what is wrong with getting most of your calories from fruit and tubers and eating some meat and dairy? plenty of people here eat that way from what i have seen. now plant based =/= vegan.