Dr.Winston O'Boogie
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Discovering the research of Ray Peat has been an education to me. I've always liked people who call things how they see them rather than buckle under pressure and 'Toe the Line', especially when what they say is new and makes sense.
Anyway I'm 52 years old. I started experimenting with 'Peating' about 3 months ago at a weight of approx. 87kg, that's borderline heavy for me. I look slim at 85kg and below with 82 being what I'd call lean. I've always tended to gain weight which I dealt with by running 5 miles, 3 times a week. I've done it on and off for over 30 years and always enjoyed it
When I started Peating I'd start the day with a big bowl of porridge made with soya milk (later skimmed with virgin CO) and I loved it. Of course I immediately stopped using soya products and switched to whole milk. I also started drinking lots of semi-skimmed milk and freshly squeezed orange juice. I also started taking pregnenalone (100mgs) and DHEA 95mgs) every day. I stopped the running and didn't try to limit calories, just concentrated on eating only Peat friendly foods.
It was a revelation to me, I could feel the warmth generating in my body, my sleep quality improved dramatically, both in depth and duration. I could feel the hormones kicking in.
Of course you know what's coming next....weight gain. I weighed myself a month in and I was up to 92.5 and people had started joking about my 'gut'. I immediately switched to skimmed milk and cut my calorie intake but the weight wasn't shifting. I also ditched the porridge. I emailed Pete who was gracious enough to respond to me within an hour in response to my question about calorie restriction and weight loss. His reply didn't really answer my question, very open ended, I'm sure you all know what I mean. I've read some of the weight loss threads on this forum and to simplify it seems that there are 2 main opinions, either to just concentrate on boosting and maintaining your metabolism or to restrict calories but only used 'Peat approved' foods.
Anyway, after spending a month cutting calories on PA foods (2000 per day) I decided that I needed another approach. I've cut my calorie intake down to 1600 (PA foods), added Acetyl L Carnite and Alpha Lipoic Acid to my diet along with CLA. I've also started weight training as a replacement for running. The pounds are now falling off and as I type this I'm just under 88kg's.
I still feel better than I did before peating but not as good as when my metabolism was really pumping but I had to make a choice. If I had waited another month or two I have no doubt that I would have been approaching 100kgs which would have left me a mountain to climb. I have lost 22kg's before but I have no intention of needing to do that again.
My plan is to get down to 82kg's on PA foods and weight training (I'll still have a little visible body fat at 82kg) and then try to rebuild my metabolism slowly. Increasing Fructose intake, maintaining high protein, cutting the weight loss supplements that are tilting me towards a fat burning metabolism (my metabolism is slow) and switching to the ones that assist in creating a sugar burning one. I think that will be an important time. My metabolism will be shot and it will take great care and patience to not bloat once I up my food intake again.
Does anybody have any experience or thoughts about this plan? I will say in advance that I am determined to maintain my current course until I get down to 82kg which I figure will give me some room to experiment with without leaving me at all skinny.
Anyway I'm 52 years old. I started experimenting with 'Peating' about 3 months ago at a weight of approx. 87kg, that's borderline heavy for me. I look slim at 85kg and below with 82 being what I'd call lean. I've always tended to gain weight which I dealt with by running 5 miles, 3 times a week. I've done it on and off for over 30 years and always enjoyed it
When I started Peating I'd start the day with a big bowl of porridge made with soya milk (later skimmed with virgin CO) and I loved it. Of course I immediately stopped using soya products and switched to whole milk. I also started drinking lots of semi-skimmed milk and freshly squeezed orange juice. I also started taking pregnenalone (100mgs) and DHEA 95mgs) every day. I stopped the running and didn't try to limit calories, just concentrated on eating only Peat friendly foods.
It was a revelation to me, I could feel the warmth generating in my body, my sleep quality improved dramatically, both in depth and duration. I could feel the hormones kicking in.
Of course you know what's coming next....weight gain. I weighed myself a month in and I was up to 92.5 and people had started joking about my 'gut'. I immediately switched to skimmed milk and cut my calorie intake but the weight wasn't shifting. I also ditched the porridge. I emailed Pete who was gracious enough to respond to me within an hour in response to my question about calorie restriction and weight loss. His reply didn't really answer my question, very open ended, I'm sure you all know what I mean. I've read some of the weight loss threads on this forum and to simplify it seems that there are 2 main opinions, either to just concentrate on boosting and maintaining your metabolism or to restrict calories but only used 'Peat approved' foods.
Anyway, after spending a month cutting calories on PA foods (2000 per day) I decided that I needed another approach. I've cut my calorie intake down to 1600 (PA foods), added Acetyl L Carnite and Alpha Lipoic Acid to my diet along with CLA. I've also started weight training as a replacement for running. The pounds are now falling off and as I type this I'm just under 88kg's.
I still feel better than I did before peating but not as good as when my metabolism was really pumping but I had to make a choice. If I had waited another month or two I have no doubt that I would have been approaching 100kgs which would have left me a mountain to climb. I have lost 22kg's before but I have no intention of needing to do that again.
My plan is to get down to 82kg's on PA foods and weight training (I'll still have a little visible body fat at 82kg) and then try to rebuild my metabolism slowly. Increasing Fructose intake, maintaining high protein, cutting the weight loss supplements that are tilting me towards a fat burning metabolism (my metabolism is slow) and switching to the ones that assist in creating a sugar burning one. I think that will be an important time. My metabolism will be shot and it will take great care and patience to not bloat once I up my food intake again.
Does anybody have any experience or thoughts about this plan? I will say in advance that I am determined to maintain my current course until I get down to 82kg which I figure will give me some room to experiment with without leaving me at all skinny.