Hi all,
Very sorry I have to make this gross thread.
QUESTIONS:
(1) Could T3 and T4 supplementation (10 mcg T3 and 20 mcg T4) for c. 2 weeks lead to the onset of gynecomastia symptoms?
(2) Could tocovit (olive oil carrier oil) being applied topically to the area cause irritation and gyno symptoms?
Messed up / embarrassing story:
(1) I began thyroid therapy around 2 weeks ago (cynomel and cynoplus).
(2) Around this past Sunday, c. 1 week into the therapy, I had very minor itching in my right nipple. This did not go away by the next day... On Monday, incidentally, I received an order from idealabs' tocovit (Vitamin E in olive oil), and remembered hearing from the podcasts that vitamin E is a potent anti-estrogen.
(3) I put a small amount of the oil on my nipple that morning and that evening, directly to the areola.
(4) Since then (2-3 days later), things have gotten worse and worse. I have had some browning and discharge on the areola itself (not the nipple tip, but surrounding it), that honestly looked more like clear plasma from a cut or a zit than anything else. This has since dried up. That was yesterday.
(5) Today, the itching remains and the area around the nipple tip (the very inside of the areola) is pretty irritated. Now, in the evening, the nipple is very noticeably unpleasantly tingling.
Further background:
- 32 year old male.
- Got minor gynecomastia on the right side, on-setting at age 23 (around a decade ago). This was pretty crushing, but I have learned to live with it. Me below:
- since it stabilized (23-24), I have never had another flare up. But now, just one week into thyroid therapy, the symptoms are coming back - 10 years after original onset.
Possible Theories:
(1) Thyroid is going downstream to DHEA and / or testosterone and pretty immediately being converted into more estrogen, leading to the symptoms OR somehow the thyroid is leading to a spike in prolactin (no idea how this would happen):
(2) The tocovit has actually absorbed into the skin and the carrier oil is causing all sorts of problems. I wouldn't have thought olive oil would cause such a problem, but who knows...
This is so messed up - not sure if the thyroid has absolutely nothing to do with it, and it was the vitamin E carrier oil. OR if the use of that oil is completely irrelevant and the thyroid is messing me up.
Can anyone help? What to do? Lisuride? Trying not to panic here :)
Edit: damn, Lisuride is sold out...
Very sorry I have to make this gross thread.
QUESTIONS:
(1) Could T3 and T4 supplementation (10 mcg T3 and 20 mcg T4) for c. 2 weeks lead to the onset of gynecomastia symptoms?
(2) Could tocovit (olive oil carrier oil) being applied topically to the area cause irritation and gyno symptoms?
Messed up / embarrassing story:
(1) I began thyroid therapy around 2 weeks ago (cynomel and cynoplus).
(2) Around this past Sunday, c. 1 week into the therapy, I had very minor itching in my right nipple. This did not go away by the next day... On Monday, incidentally, I received an order from idealabs' tocovit (Vitamin E in olive oil), and remembered hearing from the podcasts that vitamin E is a potent anti-estrogen.
(3) I put a small amount of the oil on my nipple that morning and that evening, directly to the areola.
(4) Since then (2-3 days later), things have gotten worse and worse. I have had some browning and discharge on the areola itself (not the nipple tip, but surrounding it), that honestly looked more like clear plasma from a cut or a zit than anything else. This has since dried up. That was yesterday.
(5) Today, the itching remains and the area around the nipple tip (the very inside of the areola) is pretty irritated. Now, in the evening, the nipple is very noticeably unpleasantly tingling.
Further background:
- 32 year old male.
- Got minor gynecomastia on the right side, on-setting at age 23 (around a decade ago). This was pretty crushing, but I have learned to live with it. Me below:
- since it stabilized (23-24), I have never had another flare up. But now, just one week into thyroid therapy, the symptoms are coming back - 10 years after original onset.
Possible Theories:
(1) Thyroid is going downstream to DHEA and / or testosterone and pretty immediately being converted into more estrogen, leading to the symptoms OR somehow the thyroid is leading to a spike in prolactin (no idea how this would happen):
(2) The tocovit has actually absorbed into the skin and the carrier oil is causing all sorts of problems. I wouldn't have thought olive oil would cause such a problem, but who knows...
This is so messed up - not sure if the thyroid has absolutely nothing to do with it, and it was the vitamin E carrier oil. OR if the use of that oil is completely irrelevant and the thyroid is messing me up.
Can anyone help? What to do? Lisuride? Trying not to panic here :)
Edit: damn, Lisuride is sold out...
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