Kunta Kente
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I used 2 drops of andersterone yesterday. 1 for each side of my mandible (jawline). Will this have any effect? I am 18, almost 19.
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What are you even trying to achieve? Are you recessed? Double jaw surgery, that's about it.
I used to cope with that too. Past puberty any change to bone mass will take ages to be seen and when it comes to how they're positioned...well, you have entire puberty to chew hard and not breathe through your mouth. If someone is not happy about their jaw it's probably the weak prenatal androgen exposure and terrible environment in the childhood. Their only chance is to drop massive amounts of $$$ and pray that the surgeries go well.Thank you.
Folks here are pretty delusional about bone growth past puberty. It's just not gonna happen. Don't confuse lowering body fat with growing bone. It's an illusion.
I'm not sure about K2 though, the cheekbones part.
Pretty much the only true solution is goin under.
I used to cope with that too. Past puberty any change to bone mass will take ages to be seen and when it comes to how they're positioned...well, you have entire puberty to chew hard and not breathe through your mouth. If someone is not happy about their jaw it's probably the weak prenatal androgen exposure and terrible environment in the childhood. Their only chance is to drop massive amounts of $$$ and pray that the surgeries go well.
I used 2 drops of andersterone yesterday. 1 for each side of my mandible (jawline). Will this have any effect? I am 18, almost 19.
You can still develop until 25
Do you have a source for that claim, or is it just anecdotal?
There's some evidence that tretinoin burns through white fat tissue. You might want to take a look at that.Aye. Personally I'm contempt with my bone mass, it is above average. Not if only I finally cracked the code and learned what keeps my face lean.
It is so random. Sometimes undersleeping and low calories keep it very lean (but not sickly looking) and sometimes when I do everything right and I feel amazing I have a puffed face.
The lower the water retention in face is the better I look.
Masseter / mandible widthWhat are you even trying to achieve? Are you recessed? Double jaw surgery, that's about it.
But masseter is a muscle. Chew hard gum, you'll get there, but there's no guarantee you won't look bloated. Mandible width - surgery.Masseter / mandible width
Aye. Personally I'm contempt with my bone mass, it is above average. Not if only I finally cracked the code and learned what keeps my face lean.
It is so random. Sometimes undersleeping and low calories keep it very lean (but not sickly looking) and sometimes when I do everything right and I feel amazing I have a puffed face.
The lower the water retention in face is the better I look.
So, maybe the puffed up look is the actual health look.
It doesn't work like that.
Hormones have to pass though the bloodstream first and be processed by the liver, they don't act locally when applied locally.
You can still develop until 25 just like the other guy who asked the same question as you a few days ago.
Your best bet is massive doses of androgens for the next 6 years.
And no, a few drops of a weak androgen are not going to cut it...
Undersleeping lowers prolactinAye. Personally I'm contempt with my bone mass, it is above average. Not if only I finally cracked the code and learned what keeps my face lean.
It is so random. Sometimes undersleeping and low calories keep it very lean (but not sickly looking) and sometimes when I do everything right and I feel amazing I have a puffed face.
The lower the water retention in face is the better I look.
It doesn't work like that.
Hormones have to pass though the bloodstream first and be processed by the liver, they don't act locally when applied locally.
You can still develop until 25 just like the other guy who asked the same question as you a few days ago.
Your best bet is massive doses of androgens for the next 6 years.
And no, a few drops of a weak androgen are not going to cut it...
All my friends who have taken steroids have definitely gotten wider and larger jaws, so I would say go for it. In fact, I would even take very high doses to stimulate the body to produce the intended result. My theory is that the body needs sufficient testosterone to achieve its maximum physical potential, and those whose bodies did not produce enough testosterone at puberty were stunted in growth.
I don't think that it's that unbelievable since men grow their penises after puberty by using DHT cream at the base of their penises. Also, while women need more estrogen, they still need testosterone, so the lack of a jawline in women could be attributed to the same thing.Nah, that's not believable at all honestly. How do you explain some guys who have pedomorphic, baby-esque faces despite years of running test, tren, masteron, etc.? It isn't like every guy has a fixed blueprint, and roiding/specific hormones/etc. just activates the "look like a masculine stud.exe" and that's it, else >90% of guys would roid instantly.
If it was that easy then every guy would just shoot up some gear and come out looking like GigaChad at the end -- but from all I've seen it only affects muscle/water, not bone. Roids -- typically aromatizing -- are what create the mass/damage/activate muscle genes, but their effects on bone/masculine face structure is zilch in most guys.
Also, this doesn't explain square jawed women who are presumably in the normal range of women for testosterone levels, which are likely LOW objectively. If test. or hormones in excess is what "shaped up" the big lower-third, do explain how more than a handful of girls have strong jaws too, even stronger than guys.
If it was test that wouldn't make sense -- women produce many fold less test than men but can have way stronger/bigger lower-thirds than guys sometimes. If this was pre-natal then, does this apply to women too? I'm not buying the whole "high hormones create masculine looks" theory -- it falls apart easily when you see post-pubertal men cruising or blasting insanely high exogenous hormones and never seeing even a millimeter of mandible change in any direction, volume, angle, etc. Also, even if it is determined in the womb, you'd have to use the same argument for square jawed women too, or explain that aside.
For all I know it could have way more to do with energetic balance, growth hormones, neck/head posture -- hell, maybe even a "square jaw gene" exists (kinda joking, but still).