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You can use alpha lipoic acid instead.
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When you said intolerance to foods disappeared, can you go into more detail? What kind of intolerance? What were your symptoms?6 days in:
Very obvious effect: Almost complete disappearance of intestinal irritation/aches and acid reflux from eating.
Intolerance to foods and supplements ( curcumin/turmeric, garlic, i.e. many anti-fungals) has also disappeared.
Also, tongue is going from very white and sore with obvious signs of damage to pink and healing.
Used Flax Seed Oil and Sublimed Sulfur powder in microwave on high for 5mins.
Consuming the resultant gooey black mess is not so difficult. I have been taking less than half a TSP about 1/2 an hour after each meal.
Only problem in making it: the smell is really bad and will invade the entire house and is hard to ventilate. I guess we can call them fumes.
I would be concerned about the potential by-products of this (simple) process having toxicity.
Check out this molecule of allicin, a known antimicrobial. Big old semi exposed sulfur atom.
You can use alpha lipoic acid instead.
Doesn't activated charcoal achieve the same thing? It's not absorbed so it reaches the colon and adsorbs acetaldehyde and other toxic substances along the way.
Thats used to bind metals even crossing the BBB.
The author in the PDF mentions alot of issues with acetaldehyde binding to almost anything (havent read about ALA in there tho) and alot of the resulting complex can be problematic which is why sulphur or L-Cystein seems to be preferred.
I think it would bind it well, however it binds alot of nutritious stuff too. One could argue to use it before sleeping or outside of meals but then alot of the acetaldehyde has already been produced by the fungi and already interacted/interefered with important, vital things the body needs.
When used with or close to meals that might reduce the amount of nutrition we would be able to get/assimilate from the food because its bound to the charcoal already? And if it already binds to the food, then it can't bind well to the acetaldehyde anymore?
Not realy sure ... Perhaps it can make sense in the case of @dogtrainer to deal with the die-off tho?
Lipoic Acid and Acetaldehyde
Alpha-lipoic acid ameliorates oxidative stress by increasing aldehyde dehydrogenase-2 activity in patients with acute coronary syndrome.www.wellnessresources.com
Your decision, there is a doctor that is treating liver failure with intravenous ALA, never read that he is testing his patients for heavy metals before. I am taking it for some time, if you are scared, just use taurine with it, I think you can find study here about it being protective against heavy metals. BTW alpha lipoic acid is the best thing for weak liver and damaged intestines. If you want to see some studies send me pm, I have alot of information about it.Nice!
Altough i am still not sure if supplementing it long term is realy safe? I'd be sorta kinda afraid of it redistributing heavy metals and potentially harm the body, maybe the brain even?
Perhaps low dose with the other compounds mentioned in the threat could allow for a sensible approach?
An update:
My background is four years of intense bloating and poor digestion. Horrid stuff.
since Jan 1 I have been treating my issues as if they are fungal. Reading a lot on Candida overgrowth and how the hyphae can complex with other microbes.
So I took high doses of SF722, Candex, and Pau Darco. And the bloating almost completely went way. The belching ended. I got some appetite back.
Then I encountered a naturopath who markets a product made of marshmallow root, slippery elm, and MSM. MethylSULFOnylmethane. She said it cured her chronic bloating 20 years ago and has worked great on many of her clients since. Sometimes completely eliminating their digestive problems. I decided to try it.
Just 1/2 teaspoon mixed with slippery elm caused a killer headache that lasted days. Felt just like the time I took wondro, and that time I took lots of oregano pills. According to her doses that function as antimicrobial are around the one Tablespoon range. According to her when patients reach that dose their symptoms go away.
So I have been on this MSM/slippery elm concoction for four days now and and I’m thinking about the wondro idea. Combine sulfur with some substance that persists down the digestive tract and you fight Candida wherever it touches. Slippery elm is often given to heal leaky gut and sore throat, precisely because of its ability to cost mucus lining.
If you look on amazon for leaky gut supplements, you’ll find MSM in a lot of them. And if you look up MSM on amazon, you’ll see in the reviews tons of people seeing it resolve their constipation and digestive problems. I think most people take it for arthritis/pain (which it works wonderfully well for) and for hair growth.
Reading the amazon reviews for MSM reminds me a lot of reading the Wondro “reviews” from the turn of the century. Most of them involved “stomach troubles” or “rheumatism.”
Symptom wise I’ve had lots of improvement. Im able to eat and I’m not nearly as bloated. I’m passing gas instead of simply ballooning, which is a victory. Stools are approaching normal and I’ve actually been able to get off cascara.
Oh and I got a stool test back that had a sky high Zonulin reading. Levels over 1000 when they should be under 106. This in and of itself could be why my bloating issues persist. The leaky gut creates an oxygenated local environment where aerobes grow instead of SCFA producers. Seal the gut, cut off the oxygen supply for the whack **** aerobic microbes, see symptomatic improvement?
I don’t know, too soon to tell if this is for real or not. But if you’re anything like me you’re always looking for new directions to go in.
So. If you’re “Wondro Curious,” but putting a spoonful of heated flax oil weirds you out...this might be a nice alternative.
Oh and the naturopath’s name was Kathleen Janel. You can look her up.
Have you tried quinine? I find red cinchona tincture works extremely well for bloating, taken after meals.Thanks for sharing.
I'm sitting in the same boat as you. Chronic bloating and tend towards constipation.
At sone point I realized that things that are anti-fungal have the biggest effect on me. Nystatin or boron for example create intense detox reactions.
The only thing that helped a lot was high doses of vitamin C , but I don't want to keep taking those forever.
I might try the anti-fungal combo your NP suggests.
Only in the form of tonic water and it doesnt seem to do much for gut health, but I did feel its anti-serotonin/ pro-dopamine effect.Have you tried quinine? I find red cinchona tincture works extremely well for bloating, taken after meals.
Tonic water does absolutely nothing to me or the wife. Red cinchona, powder or tincture, on the other hand, seems to work extremely well for bloating, and has much more noticeable anti-serotonin effects. Not sure if it helps constipation, but I suspect it does, since it is known to stimulate the digestive tract,Only in the form of tonic water and it doesnt seem to do much for gut health, but I did feel its anti-serotonin/ pro-dopamine effect.
Does it help for constipation as well ?
Ok, thanks! I'll check it out.Tonic water does absolutely nothing to me or the wife. Red cinchona, powder or tincture, on the other hand, seems to work extremely well for bloating, and has much more noticeable anti-serotonin effects. Not sure if it helps constipation, but I suspect it does, since it is known to stimulate the digestive tract,