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But a distinction has to be made. What we are talking about in regard to medicine is different from say "Hilary Clinton is running a child pornography ring out of a DC pizza restaurant" or "the new world order is using black helicopters with heat rays to start CA wildfires".

Those really would require so many people to not only be "in on it" but also not to leak any actual information.

Inevitably somebody will say "But there is this youtube video where somebody admits it . . ." But these things eventually defy incredulity. Medical - industrial complex? Sure. Alien lizard people imprisoning us all in "the matrix" . . . not so much.
I don't see it that way, since reality itself affords us to see correlations for example, especially in health and medicine, making it easier to create obfuscation without so many "in the know." Look how cholesterol was taken for a ride as a villain as an example. Because the reality is that cholesterol was usually present during "heart disease" and usually implicated at the site of arterial injury. Naturally, it facilitated creating associations no matter how wrong. Same thing can be said for so-called viruses, anti-body theory or germ theory in general. Somebody had to have known what the truth is, or some small group of people. I say that because the "solutions" made were conveniently not necessarily helpful and a lot of the times, harmful. But the peons and minions: none the wiser. They follow protocol and the rules, perhaps innocently, assuming it's for the best interest of humanity.

Also, one needs to really start understanding the true evil calling of these types of individuals. It is all about misery and sadism. That is at times the ultimate goal. Just to f*ck with other organisms.
 

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Most people with Covid-19 have no key symptoms when tested, research shows

The research showed that 77 per cent of people who had a positive test had no symptoms, the research showed.

Some 86 per cent did not have a cough, temperature or loss of taste/smell.

The question therefore is why is the 'hysterical' news reporting of more and more cases persisting, is it a case of a deck of cards?, if people realize that this Covid thing was a total over-reaction then people are going to lose their s*!t! WTF!

We can't continue with restrictions and lock-downs for ever!! @Drareg @Geronimo @tankasnowgod

That’s the whole point of keeping the doomsday narrative alive until a vaccine comes, they claim victory once the vaccine is here, the vaccines in the pipeline don’t give immunity but it gives them the narrative of saviors along with the potential to force through immunity passports.
This is why we are seeing news reports of a vaccine before Christmas, the banks got their trillion dollar bailouts and the central banks are vacuuming up their worthless assets, Now the banks are all topped up they want the economies back open to start stealing from the public again.

The zombie big pharma industry get free money and no potential for lawsuits ,the public get a few hundred quid pandemic payment and "saved" from a deadly virus, the public also pay for the bank bailouts, big pharma vaccines/ventilators and the potential lawsuits.
Oh don’t forget joe public if you loose your job the bank you bailed out can take your home, if you get a narcoleptic side effect from a vaccine you pay for that too.

There’s no conspiracy here, it’s "humanitarianism".
 

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But a distinction has to be made. What we are talking about in regard to medicine is different from say "Hilary Clinton is running a child pornography ring out of a DC pizza restaurant" or "the new world order is using black helicopters with heat rays to start CA wildfires".

Those really would require so many people to not only be "in on it" but also not to leak any actual information.

Would the first idea really require more people to be "in on it" than the idea that Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislane Maxwell ran an underage prostitution ring involving a private jet and island to cater to (or entrap) some of the world's most powerful people in business and politics?

What about similar claims made by John DeCamp and others that Larry King (not the guy from CNN) was running a similar underage prostitution and drug ring targeting the same types of people during the 80's?

Or how about the number of people involved in The Manhattan Project, for example?

The point is, massive operations (be they government or criminal) are kept largely secret through various techniques (with "compartmentalization" being a big one) that saying "it's too big to keep secret" is at least a bit misleading.

As far as the second claim regarding CA wildfires, well, you don't need any helicopters or heat rays, or even many people. A single arson investigator can apparently achieve that -

A California arson investigator was regarded as a sage. But it was him all along.
 

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Just so you know, taking the phrase 'alien lizard people' literally defies incredulity. The subtlety of it is lost when one doesn't connect a lizard brain to the primitive mind that only operates on survival mode - to kill or be killed - harking back to an old paranoid system of laws. Laws interwoven with religion and identity that haven't evolved with mankind's development and enlightenment - a barbaric relic in modern times. It is a euphemism for the oral tradition that is practiced by Zionists, who see humans not of their tribe as sub- human and subject to their rightful and God-given dominion.
 

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I don't see it that way, since reality itself affords us to see correlations for example, especially in health and medicine, making it easier to create obfuscation without so many "in the know." Look how cholesterol was taken for a ride as a villain as an example. Because the reality is that cholesterol was usually present during "heart disease" and usually implicated at the site of arterial injury. Naturally, it facilitated creating associations no matter how wrong. Same thing can be said for so-called viruses, anti-body theory or germ theory in general. Somebody had to have known what the truth is, or some small group of people. I say that because the "solutions" made were conveniently not necessarily helpful and a lot of the times, harmful. But the peons and minions: none the wiser. They follow protocol and the rules, perhaps innocently, assuming it's for the best interest of humanity.

Also, one needs to really start understanding the true evil calling of these types of individuals. It is all about misery and sadism. That is at times the ultimate goal. Just to f*ck with other organisms.
I think we are saying the same thing? Your first sentence suggests disagreement, but I can't find any?
 

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Would the first idea really require more people to be "in on it" than the idea that Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislane Maxwell ran an underage prostitution ring involving a private jet and island to cater to (or entrap) some of the world's most powerful people in business and politics?

What about similar claims made by John DeCamp and others that Larry King (not the guy from CNN) was running a similar underage prostitution and drug ring targeting the same types of people during the 80's?

Or how about the number of people involved in The Manhattan Project, for example?

The point is, massive operations (be they government or criminal) are kept largely secret through various techniques (with "compartmentalization" being a big one) that saying "it's too big to keep secret" is at least a bit misleading.

As far as the second claim regarding CA wildfires, well, you don't need any helicopters or heat rays, or even many people. A single arson investigator can apparently achieve that -

A California arson investigator was regarded as a sage. But it was him all along.
I purposely didn't mention Jeffrey Epstein. Because, for me at least, that conspiracy theory is right there on the margin between credible and incredible. That he was a scumbag is clear. That there had to be some who at least willingly looked the other way seems certain. That his high profile associates were in on it? The only actual evidence I've seen, and it is circumstantial at best, is Prince Andrew. Meanwhile, all the house staff have kept quiet? All the evidence Epstein used to blackmail them has never surfaced? And what did he blackmail them into doing? Its all circumstantial and looks bad. But actual evidence? Not so much.

The Manhattan Project was war time. There was a very good reason to keep it quiet. It WAS a conspiracy, and a very successful one. But it was circumscribed in time, place, and purpose and when those circumstances ended, the major details were revealed because there was no reason to continue (most of them).

As for the arson investigator, you're just cherry picking. That wasn't a conspiracy. It was just an isolated scumbag. But the black ops helicopters and heat rays is a very popular conspiracy theory--one that has been advanced right here on RPF.
 
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I think we are saying the same thing? Your first sentence suggests disagreement, but I can't find any?
Hmm, I think and correct me if I'm wrong, you were suggesting it would take a lot of people to pull off certain things that seem large scale and I think it isn't necessary and quite the opposite, it is actually helpful for muddying the waters the more are involved.
 

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But "The System" is still run and created by humans, even at the highest levels. It was not handed down to us by God. A plan or conspiracy doesn't have to be "vast," meaning that it includes potentially millions of people who are all "in" on it. It could be a much smaller group, numbering in the hundreds or so, with key positions- Heads of agencies like the CDC and FDA, CEOs of Big Pharma companies like Merck, Heads of Medical Journals, a few trade organizations like the AMA, Heads of University Medical Departments, and so on.

The average doctor certainly doesn't have to be aware of any greater plans or medical conspiracy. If they do start to question some of the usual practices and treatments, it's often after years/decades of practice, at which point they are often financially compelled to continue to "go with the flow," thanks to debt, income, and threats of financial and professional ruin. I'm sure doctors are aware of dissidents like Peter Duesberg and Suzanne Humphries, and how they were treated.

Again that's why I mentioned the "compartmentalization" of it all.

Nobody is the wiser because not everyone knows everything or allowed to know everything. Doctors who dare question authority risk losing their license, financial well-being, and reputation. There is practically no incentive to challenge authority unless they are a decent, moral human being - but as we've seen in this life many are not strong enough to make that choice considering the repercussions.
 

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That’s the whole point of keeping the doomsday narrative alive until a vaccine comes, they claim victory once the vaccine is here, the vaccines in the pipeline don’t give immunity but it gives them the narrative of saviors along with the potential to force through immunity passports.
This is why we are seeing news reports of a vaccine before Christmas, the banks got their trillion dollar bailouts and the central banks are vacuuming up their worthless assets, Now the banks are all topped up they want the economies back open to start stealing from the public again.

The zombie big pharma industry get free money and no potential for lawsuits ,the public get a few hundred quid pandemic payment and "saved" from a deadly virus, the public also pay for the bank bailouts, big pharma vaccines/ventilators and the potential lawsuits.
Oh don’t forget joe public if you loose your job the bank you bailed out can take your home, if you get a narcoleptic side effect from a vaccine you pay for that too.

There’s no conspiracy here, it’s "humanitarianism".

It's really is sickening how angry people are that they haven't gotten their second round of chicken scrap stimulus or increased COVID-19 unemployment benefits when corporations, banks, and politicians are literally reaching into the future and pulling forward TRILLIONS of US tax payer dollars via the printing press.

I mean this isn't even mafia skimming - it's basically theft at this point. Yet the average booger eater doesn't say a word or at worst isn't even aware.
 

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Would the first idea really require more people to be "in on it" than the idea that Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislane Maxwell ran an underage prostitution ring involving a private jet and island to cater to (or entrap) some of the world's most powerful people in business and politics?

What about similar claims made by John DeCamp and others that Larry King (not the guy from CNN) was running a similar underage prostitution and drug ring targeting the same types of people during the 80's?

Or how about the number of people involved in The Manhattan Project, for example?

The point is, massive operations (be they government or criminal) are kept largely secret through various techniques (with "compartmentalization" being a big one) that saying "it's too big to keep secret" is at least a bit misleading.

As far as the second claim regarding CA wildfires, well, you don't need any helicopters or heat rays, or even many people. A single arson investigator can apparently achieve that -

A California arson investigator was regarded as a sage. But it was him all along.

A great example of high level compartmentalization is depicted in that show "Counterpart" with JK Simmons.
 

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It's really is sickening how angry people are that they haven't gotten their second round of chicken scrap stimulus or increased COVID-19 unemployment benefits when corporations, banks, and politicians are literally reaching into the future and pulling forward TRILLIONS of US tax payer dollars via the printing press.

I mean this isn't even mafia skimming - it's basically theft at this point. Yet the average booger eater doesn't say a word or at worst isn't even aware.
Aah, the safety net of working for corporations, albeit the drudgery of it, vs. running your own business and the risk it entails - not helped by schemes such as COVID and lockdown and riots and burned-down small businesses. . It is as if it's designed to rob people of spirit and enterprise, and to make them into dole recipients at the mercy of the power brokers. And yet, there is no evidence of a conspiracy!
 

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Aah, the safety net of working for corporations, albeit the drudgery of it, vs. running your own business and the risk it entails - not helped by schemes such as COVID and lockdown. It is as if it's designed to rob people of spirit and enterprise, and to make them into dole recipients at the mercy of the power brokers. And yet, there is no evidence of a conspiracy!

The pork included in the bills they pass to allow stimulus is proof positive of many conspiracies. But this is nothing new and has been going on for a long time, except the pool of money is getting psychotically larger. Don't forget the bills are so long and stuffed with legalese that you'd need a quantum computer to get thru the entire thing.
 

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The pork included in the bills they pass to allow stimulus is proof positive of many conspiracies. But this is nothing new and has been going on for a long time, except the pool of money is getting psychotically larger. Don't forget the bills are so long and stuffed with legalese that you'd need a quantum computer to get thru the entire thing.
It is decay in the structure that is denied in the false value of the dollar and the valuation of the stock market. A modern day tale of the Emperor with no Clothes. A house of cards. It has been designed to fail from the start by bankers. But they're the emperors with the invisible crown. When the charade ends and the structure crumbles, we already know who will be refashioning this country in the great reset. One thing for sure--it's neither white nor black nor brown nor yellow. Hint: It is like the fly resting on Mike Pence's head, yet camouflaged - hidden, feeding on and directing his brain, a parasite that directs him to do its bidding.
 

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It is decay in the structure that is denied in the false value of the dollar and the valuation of the stock market. A modern day tale of the Emperor with no Clothes. A house of cards. It has been designed to fail from the start by bankers. But they're the emperors with the invisible crown. When the charade ends and the structure crumbles, we already know who will be refashioning this country in the great reset. One thing for sure--it's neither white nor black nor brown nor yellow. Hint: It is like the fly resting on Mike Pence's head, yet camouflaged - hidden, feeding on and directing his brain, a parasite that directs him to do its bidding.
‘The Ghost of a Flea’, William Blake, c.1819–20 | Tate
 

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That’s the whole point of keeping the doomsday narrative alive until a vaccine comes, they claim victory once the vaccine is here, the vaccines in the pipeline don’t give immunity but it gives them the narrative of saviors along with the potential to force through immunity passports.
This is why we are seeing news reports of a vaccine before Christmas, the banks got their trillion dollar bailouts and the central banks are vacuuming up their worthless assets, Now the banks are all topped up they want the economies back open to start stealing from the public again.

The zombie big pharma industry get free money and no potential for lawsuits ,the public get a few hundred quid pandemic payment and "saved" from a deadly virus, the public also pay for the bank bailouts, big pharma vaccines/ventilators and the potential lawsuits.
Oh don’t forget joe public if you loose your job the bank you bailed out can take your home, if you get a narcoleptic side effect from a vaccine you pay for that too.

There’s no conspiracy here, it’s "humanitarianism".
 

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That’s the whole point of keeping the doomsday narrative alive until a vaccine comes, they claim victory once the vaccine is here, the vaccines in the pipeline don’t give immunity but it gives them the narrative of saviors along with the potential to force through immunity passports.
This is why we are seeing news reports of a vaccine before Christmas, the banks got their trillion dollar bailouts and the central banks are vacuuming up their worthless assets, Now the banks are all topped up they want the economies back open to start stealing from the public again.

The zombie big pharma industry get free money and no potential for lawsuits ,the public get a few hundred quid pandemic payment and "saved" from a deadly virus, the public also pay for the bank bailouts, big pharma vaccines/ventilators and the potential lawsuits.
Oh don’t forget joe public if you loose your job the bank you bailed out can take your home, if you get a narcoleptic side effect from a vaccine you pay for that too.

There’s no conspiracy here, it’s "humanitarianism".
"the bank you bailed out can take your home," Mnuchin's specialty kept out of the slammer by Kamala Harris. Who, btw, said, “Seven members of George W. Bush’s cabinet are supporting our ticket.”
 
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