Small Intestine Bacterial Overgrowth And Diet

[NooMoahk]

I've had this as long as I remember. At about 16ish I found out that it wasn't normal that I was only having bowel movements every couple weeks. Needless to say I was a very sickly child. It continued to get worse and worse.
I would do anything to get over this already!...well just about anything.

I feel for you, I have had an extremely similar experience. At a young age I too thought that my bowel movements were just part of the natural variation in people lol.

As for the low carb thing; I just can't seem to do it for very long. Partly due to what I know about the dangers of it and partly because it makes me have to pee every hour and nearly pass out, but it does get rid of the constipation.

Low carb got me pooping too, maybe for 1-2 weeks but even then it was only every 2-3 days. If you try it for months I bet you'll have a different experience than you did.

I think fructose may be a problem because the 2 weeks that I went low carb I eliminated all fructose (all carbs in general actually) and did have improvement. But indeed, it could be the fiber in the fruit. Also, I have extreme bloating from watermelon and cherries which are known to be high fructose.

I don't know if you do or not but if you are constipated like that, your metabolism is generally much slower. A slower metabolism may not eliminate that fructose before bacteria get a chance to metabolize it and I have experienced this as well.

I suppose the best bet would be keep it at dextrose (pure glucose) as my only carb (and raw carrot although I'll probably just eat one per day) for a couple weeks, see how that goes, and then try adding in other carbs like fresh OJ and honey, and check again for a raw milk source.

And I suppose I should attempt to cook bone broth (I don't know how and I do not enjoy cooking, another reason why raw sounds more appealing!LOL).
Does anyone know; is chicken soup okay? My mom showed me how to make this but she puts the whole chicken in the pot (well I mean one of the frozen ones from the supermarket, doesn't contain the head, feet, or gizzards), so the meat is still on the bones while it cooks...is it necessary for the bones to be boiled separately?

thanks much!

That sounds like a solid approach to me. I feel strongly that fiber is not your friend so seriously explore that. I could only make baby steps with any health improvement until I was able to poop regularly. It has probably added years to my lifespan by figuring it out, on the scale of stopping wheat consumption which I'm allergic too. I would even argue that wheat only became as toxic as it is for me because any allergens I ingested just sat around in my intestines. You must eliminate!

 

[BingDing]

There was a post on Peatarian.com, I think by Dewitt, that said the bacteria that feed on fructose aren't a problem. Using dextrose isn't good, I don't think, but I can't point to a reference. I know some people with a lot of experience balance glucose with fructose 1:1 and in general the fructose of sucrose is beneficial. So I'd say sucrose is the better choice.

Sugar is slightly easier to use if you make simple syrup because it is already in solution and stays in solution when you add it to cold liquids.

Maybe increase coconut oil. It increases metabolism and at some point works as a laxative, at least for me.

You can supplement potassium if you need to with Morton's no salt or potassium bicarbonate from a home brew shop (one tsp of K bicarb = 5.1g. K).

Pregnenalone is very safe and supports progesterone, that might help in general.

Maybe activated charcoal, that's the standard ER treatment for poisoning because it absorbs everything in the gut. One tbsp in a glass of water and just drink it down. A forum member who doesn't post anymore named peatarian said she used it every few days to keep bacteria down.

Maybe a course of antibiotics. That has always sounded pretty dramatic to me but RP and others have done it with good results. There is a thread here about it.

This all shooting from the hip as I've never had to deal with the problem. Hope you find a way through this.

 

[Zpol]

Thanks Noomoahk. I will definitely stay away from fiber. That worries me that the effect of being regular fades on doing low carb. Hopefully the glucose and eventual honey and OJ will prevent that. From what I've read, bacteria are extremely adaptable and can adapt to thrive on ketones just as well as on carbs so that could be the reason that regularity subsided. I'm hoping if I eat just enough of easily digestible carbs I can avoid ketosis (I have the reference for this somewhere, I'll find it anyone is interested).

BingDing;
For some, perhaps the fructose is not so bad, but for me it considerably increases gas and bloating and that's not swell.
I'd be interested in finding out more about dextrose and how it can be worse than sucrose, if you could provide a link or reference, I'd be grateful. It is recommended by Dr. Allison Siebecker a specialist on SIBO due to the fact it absorbs very high up in the intestines and doesn't hang around long enough to cause significant problems.

I have using cream of tartar for potassium, hasn't made a difference but I'm sure it's probably helping in some way.

I suppose I should give pregnenalone a try.

I thought about the activated charcoal but I haven't attempted it because I hear so many reports that it can cause constipation in otherwise unconstipated people so I'm just not sure about that.

I did try Xifaxan; no effect whatsoever. It's a short term solution anyway.

Thanks!

 

[BingDing]

Zpol- I searched quite a bit about using glucose alone and found very little. This is the only page that was close to on point. I found a few remarks in the middle of long threads about balancing glucose with fructose but they aren't worth copying.

Using pure glucose is an interesting question that I would like to find an answer to. Maybe you can start a separate thread about it.

 

[Zpol]

Thanks for the link. I just pursued and looks like there's some helpful stuff. But yea not quite on topic.

Yes, I think i will start a dedicated topic on this. But first, I'm going to give this approach a try for a few weeks so I have some anecdotal info to go along with whatever additional research I can find.

 

[Hanzo]

OJ cause A LOT of gas for me. Today i have switched to grape juice and very little plain sugar other than milk and the grape juice. I still havent found what is right.