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Rheumatoid Arthritis Managed With Fruit And Protein Diet

Discussion in 'Testimonials' started by Ania, Mar 15, 2019.

  1. nbznj

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    what's incredible - at least, to me - about this thread is my genetic testing also showed very high risk factors for RA, like everything seems to be saying 2-6x increased risk for it. Combine that with the "hunter gatherer" low glucose metabolism.

    Has Ray ever shown starch being potentially causal for RA? Is it common for RA patients to go on lower "carbs" diets - carbs meaning grains pretty much, in the mainstream language
     
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    I never heard him talk about strict direct starch -RA connection, but he talked much about endotoxin role in any chronic condition. And starch has much geater affinity to endotoxin than simple sugar. @haidut also found some information about an oldschool intestinal disinfectant which happened to treat RA. Unfortunately it is not available anymore.I think endotoxins are a huge factor in many chronic deseases. Seems to be true in my case.
     
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    Here is a link
    Simple Intestinal Antiseptic As A Cure For Rheumatoid Arthritis (RA)
     
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    I'm considering trying megaspore probiotics to rebalance gut. What probiotics did you use?
     
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    Just wanted to say that my naturopath had me take Megaspore probiotics for my wonky gut, and they worked like a charm--this is after trying any number of different probiotics over the years, which had absolutely no effect. I just finished one bottle (one pill a day)--within a week of starting, there was noticeable improvement, and it got better from there. I'm waiting to see how lasting the effects are...so far it's been 3 weeks since I finished the bottle, and things are still good.
     
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    Thank you for telling of your experiance with megaspore. Sounds really good. I think I will give it a try. Do you know the mechanics of megaspore? I heard that the probiotics go in an sit next bad bacteria and produce antiobiotics to kill them but its all targeted for bad bacteria.
     
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    @sevenzy I don't really know the mechanics of megaspore, other than to say there is definitely something different about it, making it far more effective. If it's the case that it produces antibiotics targeting the bad bacteria, that is pretty cool!
     
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    Why is vitamin D not optimal ?
     
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    No geletain ? Any problems not including geletain ?
     
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    I think I overdid gelatine in the past and it makes my symptoms reappear.
     
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    Hi guys. Just a small update. I have been on my fruit and protein diet for 13 months now. I feel great, my weight is stabilized, I was able to come back to some light strength training. My mental and emotional condition is better then ever. I didn't catch a single infection through the whole year, which never happened before in my whole life. From comments of people around me, my face looks younger ( i personally do not notice any dramatic difference). My body tells me I am doing something right. The interesting part is that I am not bored with this kind of eating, although it may seem extremelly dull. Each meal is a sheer pleasure. My instinct work like a clock. I eat when I am hungry. Previously I never recognized real hunger. I felt hungry most of the time and even after a big meal I felt like eating a little more. I was constatntly thinking about food. Now I have 3 meals a day and never think about food between them. I have good energy, but not maniac. I sleep very well, sometimes I have to pee around 4 or 5 in the monrning, but i return to lseep instantly.I have so much more mental space for other activities. I am planning to do some extensive bloodwork in September, so I will let you know about the results.
     
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    Thank you Ania for sharing your experience here, this is very beneficial.

    I thought I would just share my similar experience on this topic.
    Personally, after years, I seem to also have come to the conclusion that Fruit + Beef is where it's at for me.
    My wellbeing is greatly enhanced and also a painful knee joint seems to be getting better over time. Also a stiff/painful neck that I had for a long time vanishes. This has always been my go-to benchmark for inflammation, if I overtrained or ate offending foods I would always get this painful feeling in my neck.

    In the past I had already concluded that fruit-only diet reduced my inflammation, though this lead to losing lots of muscle mass and a feeling of running on adrenaline 24/7.
    It seems adding fatty beef adds stability to this system, allowing me to be more relaxed rather than hyperactive/in adrenaline mode.

    Going beef-only didn't work for me either, I became sluggish and felt dehydrated 24/7. Excess protein (over 100g daily, tried even 300g per day) increased my feeling of inflammation.

    Potatoes/starches do not work for me either, the least offending starch seems to be white-rice, but this even causes more problems than benefits for me. Maybe in the future I will try some sports starch such as vitargo, which absorbs extremely quickly into the system, since I am very active and have a lot of difficulty getting enough calories to support my activity.

    @Ania the idea of rotating your foods seems interesting, I will try this since I have not done so before. Do you also have to do this rotation with fruits and meats? I was hoping you could give any more detail about how you apply this practically and how long you feel you need to have a "reset-period" for between eating two products.
     
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    Thanks for this. This is so interesting to hear other people's experience.This is such a rarity with this diet. I am glad you also see benefits. After 13 months I believe there is something unique in this approach. Probably drastic decrease of antinutrients. The only thing that worries me is iron from regular meat consumption. But I have no choice, at least for the time being.
    With regards to rotating foods, I discovered that I cannot repeat any food twice daily, but I can have the same food the next day. This does not lead to intolerance in my case. So i could eat beef daily. Beef is my main meat, but i change for variety : so I eat beef, lamb, fish, scalops, shrimp, liver for nutrients, ocasionally other meats. I always have eggs for breakfast.
    I had the same experience as you with both frutarian and carnivore. None was sustainable. It was a torture.
     
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    I was following very similar diet for close to a year:

    meat/seafood/eggs + fruits (apples, grapes, watermelon, dates, etc), 0 added sugar. The only difference i had 200g of lettuce in the evening.

    I felt good on it, the only problem as times goes i start to feel too anxious/hard to focus on work, like too much adrenalin, which only starch can solve for some reason.

    So now i am testing having small portion of starch (400g of sweet potatoes) every 3 days. I can't tolerate grains, rice, or even white potatoes, but sweet potatoes are more or less ok. (purple skin white flash ones).
     
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    Ania,

    How are you feeling on the diet? Could you describe exactly what you eat in a day, meaning what a breakfast / lunch / dinner typically looks like? Thank you.
     
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    would be interested in this too!
     
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    My diet is similar...only meat, fruit, and a couple starchy vegetables. No grains or dairy. Only meat and fruit would be even more expensive than my diet currently.
     
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    i see that you are still active here so i have 2 questions for you.
    I read that you have ditch't starch.
    I wondering if you react on white rice, and so yes how? Do you got bloat or tired for example.
    Also wondering if you react bad on cheap concentrate fruit juice's like applejuice.

    also i read here that vitamina a toxity can increase these pains.
    i read that you also avoid carrots now. You still eat other vitamin a sourches like liver?
    if dont, and you also avoiding milk than i guess you intake is very (unhealthy levels) low?

    greetz
     
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    In the past, when I ate most foods, I didnt notice any problems with digesting rice. Since I switched to the current diet I haven't tried even a single grain of rice. I do not drink store bought juices. I eat liver once a week. I hope my vit A status is ok, although I've never checked it.
     
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    Sorry to answer only now, I must have missed your question.
    I am feeling perfectly ok. I was doing an extensive blood work in early spring and the doctor told me it was "too good"
    However, my joint pain started to return and I was devastated. I couldn't figure out what it was this time. It took me couple of months of experimenting to discover that this time it was water! I didn't want to believe it. It seemed so rediculous. However, I made an experiment and switched to distilled water. All my joint pain is gone now. But what is more amazing - a rash which I had for over 30 years constantly and I had to take Zyrtec daily through all these years - resolved as well like magic. No dietary intervention ever helped with that. I am probably allergic to nickel.

    Ok. What I eat in a day.
    Breakfast is practically always the same (around 9 am)
    4-5 ripe bananas, very well blended with 2-3 raw eggs and salt to taste.

    The next meal( we do not have lunch in my country) around 3 pm
    It is a piece of meat/fish/ seafood/ beef liver (200-250gr) and a chosen fruit (I usually do not mix them, because I can't eat the same food twice a day) at least 500 gr, but sometimes more. My favourites are mangoes, papayas, pineapples, kiwi gold, very sweet oranges, dark grapes, melons.

    In the evening I eat fruits exclusively. A lot.

    It is not a cheap diet, and not very convenient, especially when you're traveling, but I have no way back. At least for the time being.
    I probably suffer from hypersensitivity type IV. Maybe in couple of years when my "memory cells" are exchanged, I will be able to reintroduce some foods. I've read about such cases.
     
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