interesting experience regarding probiotics and sibo

goodandevil

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was diagnosed with IBS in my early 20’s, though my case was fairly mild. I’d always had a bit of a delicate stomach, with alternating C and D, but not all the time. Mostly, my episodes were brought on by bad dietary choices (mostly greasy foods or high fat dairy). After an appendectomy (unrelated I think), my surgeon told me to eat more fiber, which was news to me at the time. That solved 90% of my issues for 15 years. A little over a year ago, I decided I needed to clean my diet up; I added a lot more fruits and vegetables, tried to reduce gluten and soy, and added several supplements, including fish oil, acidophilus and vitamin d. Within 2 weeks of making all these changes, I started having pretty bad bloating, mostly after eating. Then I started being woken up nightly with bloating and gas pain. After a month or so of constant bloating, I went to the doctor. I told him I’d made all these dietary changes and supplement changes. He told me to take Align (because he had a pharmaceutical company coupon) and suggested I do allergen testing (because his office offered it in house). After another 2 months of being woken up nightly and having a painful, bloated stomach most of the day, I went on an elimination diet, removing soy, dairy, gluten, peanuts and eggs. Adding them back one at a time after a month without them accomplished nothing and the symptoms were the same (during the elimination and after). So I went to a GI specialist. By this time, my BM’s were affected and had become irregular and not very productive. I explained to the GI doc when all these problems had started and the changes I’d made. I was convinced that one of my changes, or a combination of my changes had caused the issue. The GI doc ordered a colonoscopy, sonogram, MRI and a SIBO test. Everything came back negative, except the SIBO breath test. With a SIBO diagnosis, the GI doc prescribed Xyfaxan. I read up on SIBO and the conventional wisdom suggested that after a round of Xyfaxan, some sufferers were able to prevent a recurrence with a consistent dose of probiotic, so that’s what I did. I was perfectly fine for 6-8 weeks after my Xyfaxan course. Then, all my symptoms came back, literally overnight. The terrible bloating, the inability to sleep and the irregular BM’s…I switched to low FODMAPS foods and ordered a food allergies test, which came back negative across the board. I added L Glutamine, a vegan protein powder and digestive enzymes. The digestive enzymes were an addition because I constantly felt like my digestion would just “stop”, allowing the bloating to start. The enzymes actually helped a little, but I would still frequently have bloating attacks. The FODMAPS diet didn’t seem to help and foods that would be fine one day would cause terrible problems a few days later. By this time, I’d been suffering on and off (mostly on) for about 9 months and I’d tried everything I could except for the complete, long-term elimination of all carbs. I was reluctant to do that because I’d tried carb elimination for a period of a few days, but still had the same symptoms. I finally gave in, got a refill of antibiotics and decided to nuke my GI tract again and go completely FODMAPS. Right about this point, my wife reminded me that I’d read some conflicting info about probiotics. She suggested that I try removing them after the antibiotics course. That was 3+ months ago and I’ve been perfectly fine ever since. I was very anxious early on about eating carbs, but even foods that normally exploded in my digestive system have been perfectly fine since removing the probiotics. I can eat white bread and whole wheat bread. I’ve switched back to ahigh fiber cereal (usually Kashi) with no ill effects at all. This is the longest I’ve gone in more than a year without a single symptom.I suspect that for most people, probiotics are just fine. For me, they seem to prevent proper digestion, allowing bacteria to infest my small intestine and preemptively feed on anything I ate. I used 4 different brands of probiotic over the period when I struggled (generic acidophilus, Align, generic Align and Culturelle). All seemed to have basically the same effect on my digestion. I mention this for the potentially small percent of sufferers who might have an adverse SIBO reaction to probiotics like I do.
 

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This is Josh Rubin's take on SIBO :?:
 

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Thank you for detailing your experience goodandevel. Excellent detective work and your wife has great insight. Do not think for one moment that you are the minority. Many people have overgrowth of lactobacilli and bifidus. Again a huge population experimentation with our health is going on. As Peat says, if you are consuming dairy products then you will be getting plenty of these lactic acid micro-organisms. I use stool analysis and the trend that I am seeing is explosion in lactic acid micro-organisms.

These probiotic are marketed as gut friendly but they are gut and health destroyers. Only time will tell what the full implications will be on our health. Eat good, clean healthy food and leave the rest to the intelligence of our biological terrain. Every time man interfers, problems manifest that we never anticipated.

http://www.nutraingredients.com/Manufac ... le-formula

http://www.dairyreporter.com/Manufactur ... lth-claims

http://www.weightymatters.ca/2009/05/is ... nfant.html

http://www.weightymatters.ca/2009/05/is ... nfant.html

The omega 3 & 6 claim is enough to make sure your baby's mouth never comes in contact with this poor substitute for breastmilk.

Nestle along with other major players have invested heavily in these products so it means that they are confident that the lemmings will be falling over themselves to provide their babies with the best that money can buy. We can be sure that the medical practitioners and nurses promoting maternal and infant health will also be duped.

Beware of the hype!!!
 

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Do you think lowering metabolism with some of those measures eg fish oil might have played a role? My gut symptoms are relatively mild but I do notice a connection when metabolism drops, and I do find t3 helps.
 
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