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@CLASH I just am concerned about not enough calcium. I know we've talked about that before but I think it's low in your diet and it's super important.
I cant comment on @haidut 's weight, I dont have enough info to make any rational statements.
I also barely know what haidut actually eats besides the pepsi he's talked about and cheese sticks.
What I can say is that in my experience:
1) Large amounts of pure sucrose in the form of cane sugar soda made me thick all around (however added to juice it didnt make me gain quite as much weight). It produced a decent amount of subcutaneous fat. However even at 2L of soda a day I didn't continue to gain weight, I just stayed at where I was after a while. I did piss alot when I was drinking the soda, ran right through me. I was about 190 here, probably 10-12% bodyfat. Honey made me gain a decent amount of weight on the belly and gave me digestive issues.
2) Large amounts of dairy in the form of milk also made me quite thick, but also gave me fat on the belly (The sucrose didnt do this to me). Ice cream produced a similar effect. Never ate enough cheese to make a difference because it constipated me too much. Goat milk didn't make me gain as much weight as cow milk. I was about 215 here, probably closer to 20% bodyfat.
3) Boiled starches such as yams, white rice, or white potatoes made me pudgy and soft. They made my body appear bloated. My muscles looked like balloons, my belly was bloated, and I was holding a decent amount of water. They also made me feel slow and sluggish. I was 220lbs at this point around 16-18% bodyfat, with a lot of water weight.
4) Fruit and juice made me thin and actually make it difficult for me to put on weight. At my current diet using fruit and juice for my carbs I'm 180lbs as of today and 8% bodyfat (measured via bioelectrical impedence in combination with a 3D scan). I have been maintaining this bodyfat percentage for about a year without counting calories (aka eating as much as I'm hungry for).
5) Meat, eggs and low PUFA seafood never produced any appreciable amount of weight gain for me, even when I was bodybuilding (prior to peating) and eating 300g of protein a day all from animal protein sources. These foods have been consistent and have never effected my weight much.
6) Saturated fat sources have never made me gain weight, even when I was eating 250g of fat a day from butter on a keto diet or 200g a day of beef tallow when I was on night shift. Worst that I experience from these was the runs when my body was getting used to the amounts when I first started and then feeling too full after meals. These haven't really impacted my weight much at all. When I did keto with 250g of fat from butter a day I was 170lbs, 6% bodyfat (measured via the hydrostatic method). Monounsaturated fat sources bump up my weight slightly but not really an appreciable amount.
Great info,
I was already coming to the conclusion of having a diet solely of fruit, meat, and eggs.
maybe add in a calcium supplement if it’s of that much concern
supplementing calcium is not easy due to gut problems that often result.
I'm 5'8", 210lbs with about 15% BF and that puts me at a BMI of 32. I've never used AAS before. It's definitely achievable naturally and I'm planning on adding a lot more.I mean, BMI of 31 is likely fat unless you’re on AAS,
But that’s good that you’ve had results from these protocols
I was curious if that was the case that you were heavier before and you’re still in the process of losing fat.
It is a practice used by certain members, deliberate misspelling of names.And he misspelled Georgi's last name twice. It's Dinkov. He used Dinki. Dinky means insignificant.
I'm 5'8", 210lbs with about 15% BF and that puts me at a BMI of 32. I've never used AAS before. It's definitely achievable naturally and I'm planning on adding a lot more.
Think what you want dude. Thinking it's impossible is a defeatism mindset. I have a 4 pack and I can see my obliques and I have 17.25" arms.Haha, liar.
you’re probably way fatter than you claim.
There’s a reason why 30 BMI is classified as obese, it’s because the BMI was based off of natural humans, not steroid drug addict fake natties.
If you’re 30+ BMI and you’re actually natty then you will be fat. It’s just a fact.
It would be with Peat, so we may have to wait for the following podcasts. I kinda feel weird taking my shirt off in front of the man the first time I actually get to meet him (virtually). Not sure he will appreciate my...openness
This isn't true , they just don't eat enough.I also see this kind of leaness in those who struggle to gain weight. How many here have male friends in there teens / twenties that eat until there stuffed and really try hard to gain wieght but can't?
When people talk about people being fat is bad they don't mean being thin is healthy they mean muscular and lean.View attachment 16844
Probably not a coincidence that the example given for a 'sickly' person is also thin.