rafreemind
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Hi,
I am a 28 y/o male and I would like to see if anyone has any ideas about what could be causing a certain response I get from drinking OJ and milk.
It's a response that I have seen in the past, which I think might have to do with body temperature. In the past, I would notice that the response wouldn't occur when I was in environments with fairly warm ambient temperature. I think it might also be related with blood sugar, since I want to say that I would notice it after not eating for a while and when waking up in the morning.
I say "in the past", because I used to get this response when following a Paleo and then a somewhat PHD style of eating. I switched to PHD after noticing that more carbs seemed to be better for me, though I think I still wasn't always getting as many carbs as the PHD recommends. Eventually, I stopped following any dietary approach and basically ate whatever I wanted -- which I think actually made me feel better in some respects. I didn't keep good track of it, but I want to say that this vasoconstrictive response went away significantly, if not entirely, when I just ate whatever I wanted.
Basically, the parts of my fingers from about the knuckles to the tips become very light colored. It can be quite noticeable. I don't believe it is Raynaud's Phenomenon, since I have never seen my fingers turn blue. The fact that it seems to be related to body temperature (and that it doesn't seem to be Raynaud's Phenomenon) is why I think it's some kind of exaggerated vasoconstrictive response. Apparently, with the vasoconstrictive response, the body is trying to keep heat in the core and away from the extremities. I also notice that my fingers are (sometimes?) cold when this happens.
Now, I mentioned that I want to say this vasoconstrictive response had significantly gone away when I was eating whatever I wanted. However, I recently started experimenting with a Ray Peat approach, maybe 3 weeks ago, in order to see whether it would provide any benefits, and I have been noticing this vasoconstrictive response that I had seen in the past.
I have been following a very simple regimen of drinking 8 cups of OJ and 8 cups of milk per day. I drink the OJ and milk at the same time, for 4 servings a day (2 cups of each at a time). I also consume salt and Natural Calm at the same time. I don't see why the salt would be the cause and I was getting the vasoconstrictive response before I started taking Natural Calm, so that is not the cause. At night, I eat a tbsp of coconut oil and I might drink a few cans of pop and eat some pork rinds or candy.
I have seen this response happen fairly quickly after drinking OJ and milk, but this is not the only time that I see it. For example, I noticed it this morning after waking up and having not consumed anything for hours.
Another thing I've noticed is that eating starch seems to help. Why is this? Is it that my body has a problem with all of the sugar in the OJ, but it doesn't have a problem with starch?
I have been measuring my temperature and pulse, now and then, since starting this diet. My pulse tends to be in the 60-70 range. I'd say my temperature tends to be in the range of 97.0 - 98.0.
In terms of my health status, I haven't had a blood test for a while. However, I have reason to suspect some kind of hormonal issues -- specifically, issues related to thyroid and, perhaps, testosterone and adrenals.
Ever since 2010, I have been monitoring my TSH, which has often been in the 4-6 range -- sometimes higher. I think there is some kind of connection with body temperature, here. I've only gotten 1 blood test in the last two years, about, but before that time I was monitoring TSH a fair bit and I had seen it reach as high as 15-20 before -- but it was also 0.01 one time. I have never taken thyroid hormone. The time that it was 0.01, I was spending most of my days in a very warm apartment all day (like +86°F).
My testosterone was apparently normal last time I had it checked (626 ng/dl), however it has been low in the past. One odd thing was that when my testosterone was low, my LH and FSH were apparently low-normal. An endocrinologist was concerned about this, because apparently LH and FSH should be high when testosterone is low, in order to try and raise the testosterone level.
In terms of adrenals, I don't have much data. I did a salivary cortisol test near the end of 2011 and the morning and noon readings were slightly depressed -- however, that was a few years ago with a different diet and lifestyle. One thing I have noticed, though, since this vasoconstrictive response has come back, is a few times where I have had what may be an exaggerated fight-or-flight response, which is also something that I used to get before -- where psychological stressors can put me "on edge" for a period of time, unless I consciously do things to relax myself.
With all that being said, does anyone have any ideas as to what could be going on here? I would greatly appreciate any help/suggestions.
Thank you.
I am a 28 y/o male and I would like to see if anyone has any ideas about what could be causing a certain response I get from drinking OJ and milk.
It's a response that I have seen in the past, which I think might have to do with body temperature. In the past, I would notice that the response wouldn't occur when I was in environments with fairly warm ambient temperature. I think it might also be related with blood sugar, since I want to say that I would notice it after not eating for a while and when waking up in the morning.
I say "in the past", because I used to get this response when following a Paleo and then a somewhat PHD style of eating. I switched to PHD after noticing that more carbs seemed to be better for me, though I think I still wasn't always getting as many carbs as the PHD recommends. Eventually, I stopped following any dietary approach and basically ate whatever I wanted -- which I think actually made me feel better in some respects. I didn't keep good track of it, but I want to say that this vasoconstrictive response went away significantly, if not entirely, when I just ate whatever I wanted.
Basically, the parts of my fingers from about the knuckles to the tips become very light colored. It can be quite noticeable. I don't believe it is Raynaud's Phenomenon, since I have never seen my fingers turn blue. The fact that it seems to be related to body temperature (and that it doesn't seem to be Raynaud's Phenomenon) is why I think it's some kind of exaggerated vasoconstrictive response. Apparently, with the vasoconstrictive response, the body is trying to keep heat in the core and away from the extremities. I also notice that my fingers are (sometimes?) cold when this happens.
Now, I mentioned that I want to say this vasoconstrictive response had significantly gone away when I was eating whatever I wanted. However, I recently started experimenting with a Ray Peat approach, maybe 3 weeks ago, in order to see whether it would provide any benefits, and I have been noticing this vasoconstrictive response that I had seen in the past.
I have been following a very simple regimen of drinking 8 cups of OJ and 8 cups of milk per day. I drink the OJ and milk at the same time, for 4 servings a day (2 cups of each at a time). I also consume salt and Natural Calm at the same time. I don't see why the salt would be the cause and I was getting the vasoconstrictive response before I started taking Natural Calm, so that is not the cause. At night, I eat a tbsp of coconut oil and I might drink a few cans of pop and eat some pork rinds or candy.
I have seen this response happen fairly quickly after drinking OJ and milk, but this is not the only time that I see it. For example, I noticed it this morning after waking up and having not consumed anything for hours.
Another thing I've noticed is that eating starch seems to help. Why is this? Is it that my body has a problem with all of the sugar in the OJ, but it doesn't have a problem with starch?
I have been measuring my temperature and pulse, now and then, since starting this diet. My pulse tends to be in the 60-70 range. I'd say my temperature tends to be in the range of 97.0 - 98.0.
In terms of my health status, I haven't had a blood test for a while. However, I have reason to suspect some kind of hormonal issues -- specifically, issues related to thyroid and, perhaps, testosterone and adrenals.
Ever since 2010, I have been monitoring my TSH, which has often been in the 4-6 range -- sometimes higher. I think there is some kind of connection with body temperature, here. I've only gotten 1 blood test in the last two years, about, but before that time I was monitoring TSH a fair bit and I had seen it reach as high as 15-20 before -- but it was also 0.01 one time. I have never taken thyroid hormone. The time that it was 0.01, I was spending most of my days in a very warm apartment all day (like +86°F).
My testosterone was apparently normal last time I had it checked (626 ng/dl), however it has been low in the past. One odd thing was that when my testosterone was low, my LH and FSH were apparently low-normal. An endocrinologist was concerned about this, because apparently LH and FSH should be high when testosterone is low, in order to try and raise the testosterone level.
In terms of adrenals, I don't have much data. I did a salivary cortisol test near the end of 2011 and the morning and noon readings were slightly depressed -- however, that was a few years ago with a different diet and lifestyle. One thing I have noticed, though, since this vasoconstrictive response has come back, is a few times where I have had what may be an exaggerated fight-or-flight response, which is also something that I used to get before -- where psychological stressors can put me "on edge" for a period of time, unless I consciously do things to relax myself.
With all that being said, does anyone have any ideas as to what could be going on here? I would greatly appreciate any help/suggestions.
Thank you.