What is the reason for collapsing the dollar?

[Dr. B]

By at the very least being an oasis from the clandestine Zionist control worldwide. A possible refuge from the storm going on right now.

Did it use an experimental gene therapy with its vaccines? Didn't its vaccine incorporate the product of research and trials from the 2003 SARS-1 "epidemic", which involved enough time to make the vaccine non-experimental, albeit not really the vaccine for SARS-COV2?

Why did SARS-COV2 have its ground zero in China, preceded by the pig virus a year earlier, and by an avian virus a year before that? China has a death wish on itself, or someone else has? And who else can that someone be but the same rascals we are fighting (or paralyzed in fear about)?

Why is media all over the China lab leak theory and never about the Fort Detrick bioweapon unleashed on Wuhan theory?

Why should China cooperate with Zionists when it was the Zionists, working under the cover of British imperial hegemony, that forced on China to buy its opium for Chinese goods in the 19th century? And which carted off spoils of its victory - precious china and relics - to the houses of Zionist lords in England?

Weren't Zionists really the racists behind slavery worldwide and weren't Chinese treated with contempt and looked down upon with signs of "Dog and Chinese" not allowed in the various protectorates established by Zionist Brits in the very heart of China, when China was colonized?

Even when China was cooperating with Russia as comrade-in-arms, Zionist Russians sold China intentionally defective factories, and even sabotaged a Chinese planeload of nuclear scientists on the way back to China on a conference in Russia.

China knows the filthy Zionists by heart and by the blood spilled, so why would China want to work with Zionists when they know Zionists can't be partners for the long haul. They are every bit as shrewd and cunning as immortal devil souls. Needing to be exorcised thoroughly.

interesting stuff mate. where would you say are the primary places you've gathered the knowledge on this subject? reddit conspiracy sometimes has similar posts, theories, etc but not always in depth.
what do you think as far as trump and zionism, do you think he was pretty pro zionist, or just pro Israel? there's varying theories on that, but it seemed he did do many favors for Israel, and for some reason, it seems like Biden is more willing to criticize Israel than trump. At least, the right wing media outlets seem to be complaining about Biden not being tough enough on Palestine and not being friendly enough towards Israel.

 

[Sweet Meat]

Is it to impoverish people to make them easily controllable?

no

the us dollar has been a fiat currency since 1970, when nixon took it off the gold standard and essentially made it worthless - it only has value because the government says it does. this turned banks into veritable gods who could print unlimited amounts of money and produce even more via leveraging debt from your bank accounts, using this profit to fund a war machine that gobbled up resources and centralized power even further

fiat currency's average around 50 years in terms of half-life and the dollar's first major stroke was back in 2008 during the financial crisis, when the federal reserve was exposed using helicopter "money" to bail out the banks and forestall the collapse of the western financial world

between then and now, china has bought up the largest reserves of gold bullion and have been road testing their new digital yuan over the last two years in preparation to restore the world economy to a gold standard and remove the centralized power from american banksters, who are using their vast influence to steal as much furniture from the deck of the titanic, before she goes under, so to speak

people think we will get inflation, but we will in all likelihood suffer deflation, forcing the banks to commit suicide as their debt becomes untenable and the purchasing power goes up, before the stock market finally goes into arrest and the dollar collapses entirely because there's no more war that can attenuate the monumental level of debt that's been accrued over the last year.

currently this expiration is overdue, but given the heavy socialism that is being espoused in the west, and given the fact that the dollar is still reserve currency, america can essentially keep the dollar on life support until there is hard collateral to replace it, which is currently due to happen in 2026

 

[Dr. B]

no

the us dollar has been a fiat currency since 1970, when nixon took it off the gold standard and essentially made it worthless - it only has value because the government says it does. this turned banks into veritable gods who could print unlimited amounts of money and produce even more via leveraging debt from your bank accounts, using this profit to fund a war machine that gobbled up resources and centralized power even further

fiat currency's average around 50 years in terms of half-life and the dollar's first major stroke was back in 2008 during the financial crisis, when the federal reserve was exposed using helicopter "money" to bail out the banks and forestall the collapse of the western financial world

between then and now, china has bought up the largest reserves of gold bullion and have been road testing their new digital yuan over the last two years in preparation to restore the world economy to a gold standard and remove the centralized power from american banksters, who are using their vast influence to steal as much furniture from the deck of the titanic, before she goes under, so to speak

people think we will get inflation, but we will in all likelihood suffer deflation, forcing the banks to commit suicide as their debt becomes untenable and the purchasing power goes up, before the stock market finally goes into arrest and the dollar collapses entirely because there's no more war that can attenuate the monumental level of debt that's been accrued over the last year.

currently this expiration is overdue, but given the heavy socialism that is being espoused in the west, and given the fact that the dollar is still reserve currency, america can essentially keep the dollar on life support until there is hard collateral to replace it, which is currently due to happen in 2026

when do you expect the deflation to occur? how soon?
also why would deflation result instead of inflation?
so would there be a massive war with China, since they want to move to a gold standard?
what do you think would happen to the stock market, and bitcoin? are those good investments to make? or can nothing be done once deflation occurs and stock market crashes?
if the dollar goes under wouldn't life as we know it, revert to the stone ages? without the dollar how would we even trade, work, pay bills etc.

 

[Missenger]

when do you expect the deflation to occur? how soon?
also why would deflation result instead of inflation?
so would there be a massive war with China, since they want to move to a gold standard?
what do you think would happen to the stock market, and bitcoin? are those good investments to make? or can nothing be done once deflation occurs and stock market crashes?
if the dollar goes under wouldn't life as we know it, revert to the stone ages? without the dollar how would we even trade, work, pay bills etc.

That's the plan, they want you to eat bugs while they live in a palace.

 

[gaze]

Dying of Money: Lessons of the Great German and American Inflations

http://esocap.com/uploads/files/Dying%20of%20Money.pdf

"The stimulation of the governmentʹs easy money spread through virtually all levels of the German economy. The life of the inflation in its ripening stage was a paradox which had its own unmistakable characteristics. One was the great wealth, at least of those favored by the boom. These were the ʺprofiteersʺ of whom everyone spoke. Industry and business were going at fever pitch. Exports were thriving; that was one of the problems. Hordes of tourists came from abroad. Many great fortunes sprang up overnight. Berlin was one of the brightest capitals in the world in those days. Great mansions of the new rich grew like mushrooms in the suburbs. The cities, particularly in the eyes of the austere country folk, had an aimless and wanton youth and a cabaret life of an unprecedented splendor, dissolution, and unreality. Prodigality marked the affairs of both the government and the private citizen. When money was so easy to come by, one took less care to obtain real value for it, and frugality came to seem inconsequential. For this reason, Germans did not obtain so much real wealth as the growth of money alone would have indicated"

"Side by side with the wealth were the pockets of poverty. Greater numbers of people remained on the outside of the easy money, looking in but not able to enter. The crime rate soared. Although unemployment became virtually nonexistent and many of the workers were able to keep up with the inflation through their unions, their bargaining, and their cost‐of‐living escalator clauses, other workers fell behind the rising cost of living into real poverty. Salaried and white‐collar workers lost ground in the same way. Even while total production rose, each individualʹs own efforts faltered and showed a measurable decline, and the quality of production deteriorated. Accounts of the time tell of a progressive demoralization which crept over the common people, compounded of their weariness with the breakneck pace, to no visible purpose, and their fears from watching their own precarious positions slip while others grew so conspicuously rich. Feelings of disunity and dissent were epidemic among the Germans, and nationalism among them was never weaker. Regional separatism was so strong that it came close to breaking up Germany into fragments"

"Speculation alone, while adding nothing to Germanyʹs wealth, became one of its largest activities. The fever to join in turning a quick mark infected nearly all classes, and the effort expended in simply buying and selling the paper titles to wealth was enormous. Everyone from the elevator operator up was playing the market. The volumes of turnover in securities on the Berlin Bourse became so high that the financial industry could not keep up with the paperwork, even with greatly swollen staffs of back‐office employees, and the Bourse was obliged to close several days a week to work off the backlog"

"It was typically true that the Germans who grew the richest in the inflation were precisely those who, like the speculators, the operators, and the builders of paper empires, were least essential to German industry operating on any basis of stability or real value. With the end of the inflation they disappeared like apparitions in the dawn, and scarcely a one of the ʺkings of inflationʺ continued to be important in German industry afterward."

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[Sweet Meat]

when do you expect the deflation to occur? how soon?

2022

also why would deflation result instead of inflation?

people are afraid. when people are afraid, velocity of money goes down because people save, instead of spend. velocity determines inflation of currency.

so would there be a massive war with China, since they want to move to a gold standard?

i doubt there will be war. china is a nation of business and has superior tech, population and resources. they also have the support of their people, whereas the west is quickly destroying itself.

china has a very open approach to business and has zero interest in spreading it's culture beyond it's borders - it is purely interested in trade and progress and thus it has A LOT of allies or at the least, trading partners, so again, any war would end in failure at best and global destruction at worst

what do you think would happen to the stock market, and bitcoin? are those good investments to make? or can nothing be done once deflation occurs and stock market crashes?

i think people will leverage out of bitcoin and crypto before the stock market, because they are new and have less reliability. people tend to sell novelties before hard assets. makes sense, given the current bitcoin bullrun is due to end this year or early next - i realize bitcoin is a hard asset, but it is still considered a novelty by day traders, who make up a decent bulk of the trading volume.

if the dollar goes under wouldn't life as we know it, revert to the stone ages? without the dollar how would we even trade, work, pay bills etc.

the digial yuan will be world reserve currnecy in 5 years

the stock market will be valued vs the yuan, and by proxy - gold

 

[gaze]

people are afraid. when people are afraid, velocity of money goes down because people save, instead of spend. velocity determines inflation of currency.

Velocity of M2 Money Stock

View data of the frequency at which one unit of currency purchases domestically produced goods and services within a given time period.

fred.stlouisfed.org

but money velocity is already at historical lows, it can only go up from here. They can get away with printing money for now cause no ones spending it, but what happens when covid is completely over and the economy reopens in its entirety? Then all that money printing which has been sitting dormant due to covid fears will be unleashed due to the massive back-log of planned purchases, vacations, and spending.

Edit: I should also clarify, If I had to make a predication with a gun to my head, I would also bet on deflation. My best guess is as good as anyone's though, I honestly have no idea.

 

[Sweet Meat]

Velocity of M2 Money Stock

View data of the frequency at which one unit of currency purchases domestically produced goods and services within a given time period.

fred.stlouisfed.org

but money velocity is already at historical lows, it can only go up from here. They can get away with printing money for now cause no ones spending it, but what happens when covid is completely over and the economy reopens in its entirety. Then all that money printing which has been sitting dormant due to covid fears will be unleashed due to the massive back-log of planned purchases, vacations, and spending.

'when covid is completely over' is a bit vague. i've seen polls stating vast majorities of populations want these lockdowns to continue...whether that's true or not is irrelevant to the fact that it's being broadcast via media, so ostensibly i don't think this is going away. in other words, i do not think the dollar is being destroyed in order to control the people, i think the people are being controlled in order to avoid anarchy during the dollar's inevitable collapse

i should specify hyperinflation is probably inevitable at some point i just don't think it'll happen soon. i think the banks will go under first as we transfer to state digital currencies and at some point the usd will be worthless and a new digital dollar will replace it, hopefully backed by whatever is left in fort knox. america is maybe a decade behind china in terms of realizing their new currency so it is probably 2030 at least before the dollar gets put to rest permanently

edit - when i say the people are being controlled, btw, i do not just mean physically - our finances, specifically our debt and our spending are being centralized and leveraged. the wef was created in 1971 to manage this quasi-socialist experiment and i can only assume they will stagger the economy into a true socialist state, with the help of china and other socialist oligarchs, as no nation profits from the sudden destruction of a world currency, when there is nothing to at least replace it

 

[FredSonoma]

no

the us dollar has been a fiat currency since 1970, when nixon took it off the gold standard and essentially made it worthless - it only has value because the government says it does. this turned banks into veritable gods who could print unlimited amounts of money and produce even more via leveraging debt from your bank accounts, using this profit to fund a war machine that gobbled up resources and centralized power even further

fiat currency's average around 50 years in terms of half-life and the dollar's first major stroke was back in 2008 during the financial crisis, when the federal reserve was exposed using helicopter "money" to bail out the banks and forestall the collapse of the western financial world

between then and now, china has bought up the largest reserves of gold bullion and have been road testing their new digital yuan over the last two years in preparation to restore the world economy to a gold standard and remove the centralized power from american banksters, who are using their vast influence to steal as much furniture from the deck of the titanic, before she goes under, so to speak

people think we will get inflation, but we will in all likelihood suffer deflation, forcing the banks to commit suicide as their debt becomes untenable and the purchasing power goes up, before the stock market finally goes into arrest and the dollar collapses entirely because there's no more war that can attenuate the monumental level of debt that's been accrued over the last year.

currently this expiration is overdue, but given the heavy socialism that is being espoused in the west, and given the fact that the dollar is still reserve currency, america can essentially keep the dollar on life support until there is hard collateral to replace it, which is currently due to happen in 2026

That all makes sense to me except the deflation. Can you explain more why there would be deflation? Doesn't the dollar collapsing literally mean extreme inflation, aka the dollar becomes worthless?

Edit: saw some of your later posts about how fear will cause people to hold onto their money, causing deflation

 

[Missenger]

That all makes sense to me except the deflation. Can you explain more why there would be deflation? Doesn't the dollar collapsing literally mean extreme inflation, aka the dollar becomes worthless?

Semantics is the game of the banker merchant to distract you with while they sabotage resources and steal land.

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[FredSonoma]

I was just thinking how inflation makes it sound positive, like it's because of growth. We really should call it the dollar being devalued

 

[Sweet Meat]

That all makes sense to me except the deflation. Can you explain more why there would be deflation? Doesn't the dollar collapsing literally mean extreme inflation, aka the dollar becomes worthless?

deflation will mean the dollar gains value...which is fine, if your entire economy isn't based on debt. the entire banking system is based on one principle, though - banks only need to hold a fraction of what they owe in reserve, allowing them to accrue profit directly out of your debt by loaning it out, over and over and over again. in severe deflation, this debt gains magnitudes in value and will crucify banks who lack the raw collateral to survive negative interest rates and public outrage

destruction of banks means money will likely become state-controlled and the state can order you to value the currency for as long as they have power, it's just a matter of that currency being relatively worthless, outside your state

so the dollar 'collapsing' is more akin to america (and other nations) finding their place in the new digital market, based on true asset value alone, without the advantage of the biggest army to demand everyone takes their paper money seriously

 

[Ledo]

It's not a good thing when it's China that remains the only option to save the West and its vassal states. When the deck gives you a poor hand, what is there left to do but to fold?

We have been reduced to people thinking and hoping that someone somewhere will emerge and save us as we sit tight with seat belts buckled up. Out of fear and out of of paralysis and out of a sense of learned helplessness. The Jan 6 rallyists are now in jail. We are thankful we didn't join that peaceful rally, didn't we? If you were there and you are now facing a 30yr sentence, would I be there for you? No. I'll be saying I feel sad for Regina and may she see those years end like the Shawshank Redemption. And I'll think of the silver lining in it - that you will have plenty of time to read all the Ray Peat books you didn't read, and that you will be reading all the references in the newsletters he posted. And from your cell, you will be busy correcting the many posts here that need a worthwhile rebuttal.

I just think it's just as silly to hope China saves us just as it's silly to hope for any messiah from within to save us. Like I said, we've been checkmated. Maybe ever since the British Empire got hijacked by Zionists.

Modern China has literally been created, groomed and christend to take over world number one.

WE are their graduation present.

 

[Ledo]

no

the us dollar has been a fiat currency since 1970, when nixon took it off the gold standard and essentially made it worthless - it only has value because the government says it does. this turned banks into veritable gods who could print unlimited amounts of money and produce even more via leveraging debt from your bank accounts, using this profit to fund a war machine that gobbled up resources and centralized power even further

fiat currency's average around 50 years in terms of half-life and the dollar's first major stroke was back in 2008 during the financial crisis, when the federal reserve was exposed using helicopter "money" to bail out the banks and forestall the collapse of the western financial world

between then and now, china has bought up the largest reserves of gold bullion and have been road testing their new digital yuan over the last two years in preparation to restore the world economy to a gold standard and remove the centralized power from american banksters, who are using their vast influence to steal as much furniture from the deck of the titanic, before she goes under, so to speak

people think we will get inflation, but we will in all likelihood suffer deflation, forcing the banks to commit suicide as their debt becomes untenable and the purchasing power goes up, before the stock market finally goes into arrest and the dollar collapses entirely because there's no more war that can attenuate the monumental level of debt that's been accrued over the last year.

currently this expiration is overdue, but given the heavy socialism that is being espoused in the west, and given the fact that the dollar is still reserve currency, america can essentially keep the dollar on life support until there is hard collateral to replace it, which is currently due to happen in 2026

All that needs to be done is to financially engineer a debt restructuring that piggybacks off a currency reset fully indemnifying their assets and burdening us with the debts.

The deflationary collapse will allow for a pickup of any loose ends they may want to own like all of the housing stock or farm land.

 

[Missenger]

I was just thinking how inflation makes it sound positive, like it's because of growth. We really should call it the dollar being devalued

Semantics, it's very talmud talk.

 

[FredSonoma]

deflation will mean the dollar gains value...which is fine, if your entire economy isn't based on debt. the entire banking system is based on one principle, though - banks only need to hold a fraction of what they owe in reserve, allowing them to accrue profit directly out of your debt by loaning it out, over and over and over again. in severe deflation, this debt gains magnitudes in value and will crucify banks who lack the raw collateral to survive negative interest rates and public outrage

destruction of banks means money will likely become state-controlled and the state can order you to value the currency for as long as they have power, it's just a matter of that currency being relatively worthless, outside your state

so the dollar 'collapsing' is more akin to america (and other nations) finding their place in the new digital market, based on true asset value alone, without the advantage of the biggest army to demand everyone takes their paper money seriously

Thanks for that explanation, the banks only holding a fraction is something I didn't know

As the average person becomes poorer and poorer, even in bad times, people will spend the same amount of money, because everything they buy is just for survival. Combined with the absurd amount of money printing, I still have a hard time seeing how deflation will happen

 

[yerrag]

Modern China has literally been created, groomed and christend to take over world number one.

WE are their graduation present.

I suppose you are referring to Zionists grooming China.

The way they groomed the USSR? The way they groomed the British Empire? The way they groomed the United States?

The US no longer manufactures. Same with UK. Same with Russia. All the US and USSR manufactures are weapons systems. There really is no Western car industry to be proud of anymore. All are POS. This is how the Zionists bring down nations by polluting their minds and making them deploy their intelligence towards Zionist methods of financial engineering and politicizing.

Why is that? Because the Zionists have embedded themselves deeply into Western culture. Why is the English language so widespread? Because the British Empire came about because of the Zionist blood embedded in the aristocracy. It beat the Spanish Empire because the Zionist spy network all around Europe sank Spain, as Spain wasn't gonna play with the Zionists and kicked them out. So the Zionist network conspired to topple the Spanish Empire and to install the British one in its wake.

But since then, British industry has gone on a downward descent. For Zionists do not work hard. They like to maraud countries for gold. They like to make fake money. They like to use financial engineering and cook books to make companies appear valuable. They like to manipulate markets for the easy money. And they like to influence regulators and public servants by hook or by crook so they get away with their heist time and again. They invent also wars - like World War I and World War II as hey, weapons are good money. Wonder why the US spends so much on POS weapons system like the F-35 that doesn't really work? It's because it's the Zionists running the entire freaking show. They are lawyers and bean counters that lie through their teeth and cook books. They can get away with it as the regulators give them a slap in the wrist. Hell, even US presidents of late give spies and mass murdering and racketeerng Zionists pardons. But they can't lie their way with production quality and reliability. After World War II, German industry has also become second-rate. Look at how Japan's Honda and Toyota came out with the Acura and the Lexus to trounce the Germans' BMW and Mercedes Benz. Again, why? Zionist influence through and through.

You know where I'm going with this, don't you?

So how the hell can China be groomed while China is not decaying with stench like it has the kiss of death of Zionism?

I can't make this up. You, however, are in the thrall of those story-tellers in Zionist Hollywood making up untenable stories and scenarios.

 

[Regina]

when do you expect the deflation to occur? how soon?
also why would deflation result instead of inflation?
so would there be a massive war with China, since they want to move to a gold standard?
what do you think would happen to the stock market, and bitcoin? are those good investments to make? or can nothing be done once deflation occurs and stock market crashes?
if the dollar goes under wouldn't life as we know it, revert to the stone ages? without the dollar how would we even trade, work, pay bills etc.

I think the digital yuan will replace the dollar as the world's reserve currency.

The plebes in the US will first start with UBI, but it will be replaced by a programmable Fed coin.

I do think they will make the transition to tokenized "dollars" (stocks, etc) seamless. However the dollar is gonna be taken much lower.

 

[yerrag]

And @Ledo, you cannot fault China for not being the "democracy" that is so much ballyhooed and hyped by the Zionist elites of the Ivy League or of Zionist fronts like Amnesty International. Wasn't Iran trying to be a democracy before that attempt at democracy exposed their underbelly to the M16 and CIA Zionist conspirators and that toppled Iran's fledgling democracy under Mossadegh, paving the way back to a dictatorial puppet regime under Reza Pahlavi?

Now it would be hard to find a (faux) democratic country, (faux) independent, that isn't under the stifling influence of the clandestine forces of Zionism and its assassins in the Mossad, CIA, and M16. Is it a surprise to you that all these countries are acting like automatons in enforcing the COVID hoax? And who else but Zionists can put together such a group of world leaders bending the knee to such falsehoods?

If the world were rid of Zionists, what a better world it would be as we can open the world to trust and brotherhood.

With Zionists, it is nothing but treachery and assassinations. The new normal has long been with us - deviancy, porn, racketeering, fake money, poisoning of water and air, of the food supply, chronic sickness, medical racketeering, mistrust in the blind lady justice, perpetual war, racial animosity, demagoguery.

Adding the COVID hoax is just mere adding insult to injury

 

[Ledo]

I suppose you are referring to Zionists grooming China.

The way they groomed the USSR? The way they groomed the British Empire? The way they groomed the United States?

The US no longer manufactures. Same with UK. Same with Russia. All the US and USSR manufactures are weapons systems. There really is no Western car industry to be proud of anymore. All are POS. This is how the Zionists bring down nations by polluting their minds and making them deploy their intelligence towards Zionist methods of financial engineering and politicizing.

Why is that? Because the Zionists have embedded themselves deeply into Western culture. Why is the English language so widespread? Because the British Empire came about because of the Zionist blood embedded in the aristocracy. It beat the Spanish Empire because the Zionist spy network all around Europe sank Spain, as Spain wasn't gonna play with the Zionists and kicked them out. So the Zionist network conspired to topple the Spanish Empire and to install the British one in its wake.

But since then, British industry has gone on a downward descent. For Zionists do not work hard. They like to maraud countries for gold. They like to make fake money. They like to use financial engineering and cook books to make companies appear valuable. They like to manipulate markets for the easy money. And they like to influence regulators and public servants by hook or by crook so they get away with their heist time and again. They invent also wars - like World War I and World War II as hey, weapons are good money. Wonder why the US spends so much on POS weapons system like the F-35 that doesn't really work? It's because it's the Zionists running the entire freaking show. They are lawyers and bean counters that lie through their teeth and cook books. They can get away with it as the regulators give them a slap in the wrist. Hell, even US presidents of late give spies and mass murdering and racketeerng Zionists pardons. But they can't lie their way with production quality and reliability. After World War II, German industry has also become second-rate. Look at how Japan's Honda and Toyota came out with the Acura and the Lexus to trounce the Germans' BMW and Mercedes Benz. Again, why? Zionist influence through and through.

You know where I'm going with this, don't you?

So how the hell can China be groomed while China is not decaying with stench like it has the kiss of death of Zionism?

I can't make this up. You, however, are in the thrall of those story-tellers in Zionist Hollywood making up untenable stories and scenarios.

You just made a strange about face that doesn't fit your usual analysis. You have done this once before with me particularly, but I let that slide as you had lost your cool in an Agent Royale with Managing whom I assume got booted. I think you rushed to China's defense or was it Iran's, don't remember.

But this is weird.

So how the hell can China be groomed while China is not decaying with stench like it has the kiss of death of Zionism?

Almost doesn't even make any sense. You spend a page and a half detailing my point which was China has been groomed for half a century which you did a fine job of, left out a few important things but ok, then you accuse me of falling for propaganda by way of my supposed impugning of the vast integrity of CCP morals.

Like I say, weird.

Edit: I now see you made another posting to me on the matter. Must have thought it over but I will read it tomorrow, good night RPF!