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Mate what if you, for 3 years, consumed 5000 IU vitamin A from whole milk and liver and supplemented 10000 IU d3. I do have those symptoms like penis and teste shrinkage, and ive gotten massive improvements from dropping the vitamin D3 entirely. Even within a week of stopping and maintaining the milk liver diet, massive increases in everything.

Im wondering if complete healing is possible considering how long ive been megadosing the D and possibly been deficient in A
You will heal as long as you stay away from supplements and maybe even take a break from liver. Eggs and full fat dairy have plenty of fat solubles.
 

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You will heal as long as you stay away from supplements and maybe even take a break from liver. Eggs and full fat dairy have plenty of fat solubles.
Im suddenly getting constant erections throughout the day within just a week of dropping tje 10k IU D3. Im continuing to have the half gallon whole grass fed milk daily which has 65g protein and 3000IU Vitamin a. Im trying to bump it up to a full gallon but dont have the thirst/appetite yet.
I also have to sleep in my boxers instead of clothed. And im sweating a lot more randomly throughout the day.
I havent been keeping up the liver. The liver was on and off and was the ancestral product.
So really it was more like, for most of those 3 years it was more like 3000 to 4000IU vitamin A daily, and 10,000 IU D3 daily. And the A was all food based like milk or ice cream

I can actually eat things like dominos pizza and not have any symptoms or noticeable digestive trouble. Even though it has that enzymes based cheese. Although it might have some soybean oil so still needs to be avoided.
 

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You will heal as long as you stay away from supplements and maybe even take a break from liver. Eggs and full fat dairy have plenty of fat solubles.
Vitamin A has anti cortisol effects, were yoir issues with eggs and liver due to those things lacking carbs? I know people doing fine with vitamin A and milk and not getting sunlight or using vitamin D.
There are people seemingly eating lots of eggs and liver and doing fine but they seem to also get lots of sunlight
 

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Im suddenly getting constant erections throughout the day within just a week of dropping tje 10k IU D3. Im continuing to have the half gallon whole grass fed milk daily which has 65g protein and 3000IU Vitamin a. Im trying to bump it up to a full gallon but dont have the thirst/appetite yet.
I also have to sleep in my boxers instead of clothed. And im sweating a lot more randomly throughout the day.
I havent been keeping up the liver. The liver was on and off and was the ancestral product.
So really it was more like, for most of those 3 years it was more like 3000 to 4000IU vitamin A daily, and 10,000 IU D3 daily. And the A was all food based like milk or ice cream

I can actually eat things like dominos pizza and not have any symptoms or noticeable digestive trouble. Even though it has that enzymes based cheese. Although it might have some soybean oil so still needs to be avoided.
It's great to hear that you've seen such improvements. I hope I'll be able to eat things like wheat again at some point. I wonder if VA is mostly an issue when you already have liver and bile duct issues. Perhaps fixing those things improves VA processing capability. Still, I doubt anyone needs huge doses like in liver or CLO. I currently feel better if I limit my intake to under 1300 IU, but perhaps up to 5000 is reasonable for a healthy person.
 

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You will heal as long as you stay away from supplements and maybe even take a break from liver. Eggs and full fat dairy have plenty of fat solubles.
any info as far as vitamin D and K2 content of pasteurized grass fed jersey milk? the raw milk sites claim pasteurization kills the vitamin K but I wonder if that would only affect K1 not the K2...

the superkalona website claims 45mcg per 2 servings of milk which would be 180mcg per half gallon if a serving is 8oz. its good to hear they claim the more yellow the appearance of the milk the more K2 it has. jersey milk seems to be the most yellow colored milk i've seen, more so than other cow milks and camel, goat, sheep, buffalo milks.

 

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I agree with Chris Masterjohn that this complete Vitamin A avoidance is irrational and not supported by any evidence. There are some interesting observations to be made here, but Generoux is throwing out the baby with the bathwater, and creating a religion based on nothing but thin air. He has to ignore all the finer details to protect his anti-life world view. Anti-life because he demonizes a chemical that is by all scientific standards a nutrient, and in almost every food.

When people profit from avoiding vitamin A, it speaks to the importance of balancing the fat-soluble vitamins in order to have a strong immune system, nothing more. Also maybe Zinc and Vitamin C deficiency in some cases.
This is from May 2022. What made you change your mind? How long have you been keeping vitamin A low?
 

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This is from May 2022. What made you change your mind? How long have you been keeping vitamin A low?

Funny that this post comes up!

That was before reading the books by Genereux. I was in deep cognitive dissonance during that time and I looked for arguments against the low A crowd. I was pretty angry at the anti-A people in this forum, because I subconsciously knew they were right and I had followed the wrong path for years. (Took me a year to actually read the books and realize that I was wrong all the time about vitamin A.) I had known about the topic since 2019.

5 months after the above post I broke down and my health and life imploded. I was guided to the low A diet information I had ignored for so long and finally an inner feeling told me to read the books. I read all of them in a couple days and finally everything clicked. During the suffering of the last year, I found God.

Everything began to converge and I realized that in order to get closer to God (and healthy), I need to purify my body, and I noticed that when I stopped consuming toxic foods like coffee, chocolate and retinol-rich foods, my body started to detox on its own. I started to feel like my true self more and more.

I have been low A and low copper for only a couple months. I have a long road ahead.

I don't know why, but during the last year I thought about @InChristAlone sometimes. I've read some of her posts and liked them, and when she was no longer posting, I hoped she was well. Seeing that she also went through a spiritual process during the last years, and @charlie also, makes me think that God is really at work here. Dr. Smith seems to be guided by God also.

“Over a half century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of old people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened." Since then I have spent well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened.”" - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

This is our creator offering his children a way out of this mess.
 

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That was before reading the books by Genereux. I was in deep cognitive dissonance during that time and I looked for arguments against the low A crowd. I was pretty angry at the anti-A people in this forum, because I subconsciously knew they were right and I had followed the wrong path for years. (Took me a year to actually read the books and realize that I was wrong all the time about vitamin A.)

5 months later I broke down and my health and life imploded. I was guided to the low A diet information I had ignored for so long and finally an inner feeling told me to read the books. I read all of them in a couple days and finally everything clicked. During the suffering of the last year, I found God.

Everything began to converge and I realized that in order to get closer to God (and healthy), I need to purify my body, and I noticed that when I stopped consuming toxic foods like coffee, chocolate and retinol-rich foods, my body started to detox on its own. I started to feel like my true self more and more.

I have been low A and low copper for only a couple months. I have a long road ahead.
Thanks for replying. It's interesting to hear people's stories.
 

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This is our creator offering his children a way out of this mess.
Yep. I see cries of coordination everywhere and the naysayers are exactly right. It is coordinated. It is the Lord of lords coordinating this and it is incredible to watch. I hope one day all their eyes will be opened. I already forgive them because they know not what they do. And like Smith says, we will be here to help them up when/if they break down and implode and hit the dreaded "vitamin A" cascade or copper hell. Cause that's what we do as children of God, we love our brothers and sisters even though we sometimes do not love what they do.
 

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Funny that this post comes up!

That was before reading the books by Genereux. I was in deep cognitive dissonance during that time and I looked for arguments against the low A crowd. I was pretty angry at the anti-A people in this forum, because I subconsciously knew they were right and I had followed the wrong path for years. (Took me a year to actually read the books and realize that I was wrong all the time about vitamin A.) I had known about the topic since 2019.

5 months after the above post I broke down and my health and life imploded. I was guided to the low A diet information I had ignored for so long and finally an inner feeling told me to read the books. I read all of them in a couple days and finally everything clicked. During the suffering of the last year, I found God.

Everything began to converge and I realized that in order to get closer to God (and healthy), I need to purify my body, and I noticed that when I stopped consuming toxic foods like coffee, chocolate and retinol-rich foods, my body started to detox on its own. I started to feel like my true self more and more.

I have been low A and low copper for only a couple months. I have a long road ahead.

I don't know why, but during the last year I thought about @InChristAlone sometimes. I've read some of her posts and liked them, and when she was no longer posting, I hoped she was well. Seeing that she also went through a spiritual process during the last years, and @charlie also, makes me think that God is really at work here. Dr. Smith seems to be guided by God also.

“Over a half century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of old people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened." Since then I have spent well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened.”" - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

This is our creator offering his children a way out of this mess.
Funny that this post comes up!

That was before reading the books by Genereux. I was in deep cognitive dissonance during that time and I looked for arguments against the low A crowd. I was pretty angry at the anti-A people in this forum, because I subconsciously knew they were right and I had followed the wrong path for years. (Took me a year to actually read the books and realize that I was wrong all the time about vitamin A.) I had known about the topic since 2019.

5 months after the above post I broke down and my health and life imploded. I was guided to the low A diet information I had ignored for so long and finally an inner feeling told me to read the books. I read all of them in a couple days and finally everything clicked. During the suffering of the last year, I found God.

Everything began to converge and I realized that in order to get closer to God (and healthy), I need to purify my body, and I noticed that when I stopped consuming toxic foods like coffee, chocolate and retinol-rich foods, my body started to detox on its own. I started to feel like my true self more and more.

I have been low A and low copper for only a couple months. I have a long road ahead.

I don't know why, but during the last year I thought about @InChristAlone sometimes. I've read some of her posts and liked them, and when she was no longer posting, I hoped she was well. Seeing that she also went through a spiritual process during the last years, and @charlie also, makes me think that God is really at work here. Dr. Smith seems to be guided by God also.

“Over a half century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of old people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened." Since then I have spent well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened.”" - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

This is our creator offering his children a way out of this mess.
97% this is a charlie alt lol
 

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97% this is a charlie alt lol
16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
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Did you really ban him?
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Funny that this post comes up!

That was before reading the books by Genereux. I was in deep cognitive dissonance during that time and I looked for arguments against the low A crowd. I was pretty angry at the anti-A people in this forum, because I subconsciously knew they were right and I had followed the wrong path for years. (Took me a year to actually read the books and realize that I was wrong all the time about vitamin A.) I had known about the topic since 2019.

5 months after the above post I broke down and my health and life imploded. I was guided to the low A diet information I had ignored for so long and finally an inner feeling told me to read the books. I read all of them in a couple days and finally everything clicked. During the suffering of the last year, I found God.

Everything began to converge and I realized that in order to get closer to God (and healthy), I need to purify my body, and I noticed that when I stopped consuming toxic foods like coffee, chocolate and retinol-rich foods, my body started to detox on its own. I started to feel like my true self more and more.

I have been low A and low copper for only a couple months. I have a long road ahead.

I don't know why, but during the last year I thought about @InChristAlone sometimes. I've read some of her posts and liked them, and when she was no longer posting, I hoped she was well. Seeing that she also went through a spiritual process during the last years, and @charlie also, makes me think that God is really at work here. Dr. Smith seems to be guided by God also.

“Over a half century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of old people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened." Since then I have spent well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened.”" - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

This is our creator offering his children a way out of this mess.
That's great! It is the great awakening of the Peat forum!

So for anyone following along.. they would only have had to do a little research to know you have your own story here on the forum completely separate from me or Charlie. And yet our stories converge. That can only be revelation. I know people don't understand that if they are not connected to God, but it's true.

And those who don't understand can go on thinking we have all lost our minds, but I wish I could show a snapshot of our life without revealing personal information, I am doing the best I've ever done in my life. No sign of psychosis or needing to be locked up in a mental institution lol. Actually if you knew me back in 2015 deep in Ray Peat ideology I did need a mental institution back then (along with many of my Peat friends no joke!). But that behavior is now normalized you only need to look at Instagram for 5 mins to see that. Broken people are everywhere. Promiscuity, porn use, godlessness, hedonism it's all normalized now. And everyone is diagnosed with some kind of mental illness. I could have been diagnosed with panic disorder, bipolar disorder, and probably borderline personality disorder due to sexual abuse and then later crazy high toxicity. I have healed all of that now. But someone with a happy family and a healthy marriage that reads the Bible every night is seen as some kind of fundamentalist mental illness.

Anyway sorry for the rant. I was reading the trash over on the new forum and thinking these people really do think we have lost our minds! So here you go screenshot my message and post it all over Twitter :)
 
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