Thousands of Israelis test positive for coronavirus AFTER getting vaccinated

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So is the concensus here that we should avoid vaccinations. Whats the best thing one could do to avoid this entire mess besides the obvious masks and being hygienic
 

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The increased death rate post-vaccination no longer appears to be a major concern.

Israel COVID: 838,535 Cases and 6,365 Deaths - Worldometer
These are the numbers that have been counted as covid deaths. Sure the numbers have gone down now the population is vaccinated. They will go up again when the top-up vaccines are available. These numbers have been manipulated all the time. They are political. They are not reflecting anything that has to do with health. Why bother with those data?
 
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So is the concensus here that we should avoid vaccinations. Whats the best thing one could do to avoid this entire mess besides the obvious masks and being hygienic
Ivermectin kills Covid...Ivermectin saves lives
 
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These are the numbers that have been counted as covid deaths. Sure the numbers have gone down now the population is vaccinated. They will go up again when the top-up vaccines are available. These numbers have been manipulated all the time. They are political. They are not reflecting anything that has to do with health. Why bother with those data?

exactly.
 

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These are the numbers that have been counted as covid deaths. Sure the numbers have gone down now the population is vaccinated. They will go up again when the top-up vaccines are available. These numbers have been manipulated all the time. They are political. They are not reflecting anything that has to do with health. Why bother with those data?

Thank you. I was focused on death (or the lack of new daily deaths) and I had a blindspot with regard to the Gates Team purposefully making the variation in the death rate mimic the seasonal flu. I did know that Gates Team are censoring the vaccine after-effects. Had not considered that they would be the death rates. They can manipulate the numbers any which way they want.

I agree that the numbers will go up again as they always do with the seasonal flu. The next round of vaccines are being prepared for the normal serge in case the the fall flu season.

Thanks again for the friendly dialogue.
 

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I have been hearing Israel have dropped the vaccine passports, Spain also, the MSM is not covering it as far as I can tell, we know why, has anyone else heard this?
Nethanyahu has said it’s medical fascism supposedly.
 

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I have been hearing Israel have dropped the vaccine passports, Spain also, the MSM is not covering it as far as I can tell, we know why, has anyone else heard this?
Nethanyahu has said it’s medical fascism supposedly.
Yes I saw an article on it in some independent media.
 

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Israel’s “Killer Vaccine”: 50% of Those Fully Vaccinated (2 Jabs) Have Tested Covid Positive​

Israel's "Killer Vaccine": 50% of Those Fully Vaccinated (2 Jabs) Have Tested Covid Positive - Global Research
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Head of Public Health Services, Dr. Sharon Alray-Price, revealed the disturbing facts at a media presentation on June 23. According to her data, of the 891 cases of coronavirus confirmed in the last month alone, half had received both doses of Pfizer’s mRNA vaccine.
According to a report on Channel 12, in the months since the vaccines were rolled out, 6,765 people who received both shots have contracted coronavirus, and epidemiological tracing has revealed that an additional 3,133 people contracted Covid-19 from those vaccinated individuals.
 

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This video goes over recent a data from Israel. They are further along than the US in gathereing and reporting data. As a bonus, the video addresses wiki's treatment of the terrian theory, now branded as 'germ theory denialism"


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiFuyMf6mmo


Notes at the Youtbue page:
The very best immunity is natural immunity. That comes to us from Israeli data which is complete enough to draw real conclusions from. The vaccines offer varying degrees of protection from hospitalization and death that are much improved as compared to the unvaccinated in the over 50 crowd. Under 50? The data is less clear but the good news is that there really aren’t any hospitalizations or deaths involved. The numbers are so small as to be best rounded down to zero.

So the good news is that the Delta variant is stacking up to be far less deadly than the prior variants. The bad news is that “immune escape” is really very much on the table. It hasn’t happened yet (that we know of) but the odds are stacking up in its favor as more and more vaccinated people are becoming infected with SARS2 despite being fully vaccinated. Dr Geert Vanden Bossche’s hypothesis is now an ‘open secret’ as it is now part of the risk factors listed by the UK heath authorities.

Links:
Natural immunity is best immunity https://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ne...
Israeli & hospitalization data https://twitter.com/cov19treatments/s...
Delta variant and Pfizer 3rd shot https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/...
Immune escape in point #9 of this: https://www.gov.uk/government/publica...
Crappy, crappy organization with a website https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germ_th...
 
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This video goes over recent a data from Israel. They are further along than the US in gathereing and reporting data. As a bonus, the video addresses wiki's treatment of the terrian theory, now branded as 'germ theory denialism"


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiFuyMf6mmo


Notes at the Youtbue page:
The very best immunity is natural immunity. That comes to us from Israeli data which is complete enough to draw real conclusions from. The vaccines offer varying degrees of protection from hospitalization and death that are much improved as compared to the unvaccinated in the over 50 crowd. Under 50? The data is less clear but the good news is that there really aren’t any hospitalizations or deaths involved. The numbers are so small as to be best rounded down to zero.

So the good news is that the Delta variant is stacking up to be far less deadly than the prior variants. The bad news is that “immune escape” is really very much on the table. It hasn’t happened yet (that we know of) but the odds are stacking up in its favor as more and more vaccinated people are becoming infected with SARS2 despite being fully vaccinated. Dr Geert Vanden Bossche’s hypothesis is now an ‘open secret’ as it is now part of the risk factors listed by the UK heath authorities.

Links:
Natural immunity is best immunity https://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ne...
Israeli & hospitalization data https://twitter.com/cov19treatments/s...
Delta variant and Pfizer 3rd shot https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/...
Immune escape in point #9 of this: https://www.gov.uk/government/publica...
Crappy, crappy organization with a website https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germ_th...

Very informative, thanks for posting.

Israeli data shows on the whole for an unvaxxeed person under 50 the risk of dyiing from COVID is essentially the same as for the vaxxed. Over 50, the unvaxxed has 5.6 chances in 100 of dying from COVID while a vaxxed over 50 has 3 chances in 100. But the report fails to breakdown over 50 into age cohorts. Given a person over 80 is ten times more likely to die as someone who is 65, this would seem important.

This would seem to verify previous statements by others such as Michael Yeadon who said that, for those under 70, given the unquantified risk of AE, and only a marginal absolute decrease in fatality between vaxxed and unvaxxed, not getting the jab is the obvious choice.
 
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Israel reports sharp decline in Pfizer coronavirus vaccine efficacy​

Preliminary data from an analysis conducted by the Health Ministry shows 42% decrease in vaccine protection from infections and up to 60% from severe illness among vaccinated; Israel mulls 3rd booster shot for all over 65s​

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Published: 07.20.21, 15:40
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