CDC lowers PCR CT count and diagnostic guidelines ONLY for the vaccinated

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CDC has all but stopped tracking COVID-19 in the vaccinated and now focuses almost exclusively on the unvaccinated. So, naturally, most/all of the reported COVID-19 deaths will be in unvaccinated people. In addition, the PCR cycle threshold has been lowered for vaccinated people and left at the absurdly high level for the unvaccinated. This also ensures that most of the "new" COVID-19 cases will be "diagnosed" in unvaccinated people.

A whopper: CDC now discontinues "PCR for convid only" testing all together:

"After December 31, 2021, CDC will withdraw the request to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) of the CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel, the assay first introduced in February 2020 for detection of SARS-CoV-2 only. CDC is providing this advance notice for clinical laboratories to have adequate time to select and implement one of the many FDA-authorized alternatives"



Hold my beer, CDC encourages to replaces it with a multiplex assay test.. which os PCR that "detects" cv2 and flu at one go.

I reckon they are tired of baseless mixing of the two: Now THE SCIENCE will do the mix for them.
 
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A whopper: CDC now discontinues "PCR for convid only" testing all together:

"After December 31, 2021, CDC will withdraw the request to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) of the CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel, the assay first introduced in February 2020 for detection of SARS-CoV-2 only. CDC is providing this advance notice for clinical laboratories to have adequate time to select and implement one of the many FDA-authorized alternatives"



Hold my beer, CDC encourages to replaces it with a multiplex assay test.. which os PCR that "detects" cv2 and flu at one go.

I reckon they are tired of baseless mixing of the two: Now THE SCIENCE will do the mix for them.

The fraud is completely out in the open. I suspect they got spooked by the ongoing lawsuits against the high threshold count and the PCR test in general, and are now trying to replace it with something else. Of course, even if the lawsuits are successful that will not retroactively invalidate most/all of the COVID-19 diagnoses/deaths since beginning of 2020, but it is good start and I hope the plaintiffs go after this new test too.
 

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The fraud is completely out in the open. I suspect they got spooked by the ongoing lawsuits against the high threshold count and the PCR test in general, and are now trying to replace it with something else. Of course, even if the lawsuits are successful that will not retroactively invalidate most/all of the COVID-19 diagnoses/deaths since beginning of 2020, but it is good start and I hope the plaintiffs go after this new test too.

Watch out for a deluge of convid-19 PCR tests from now to new year, when they are discontinued. Labs are trying to use up all their stock now (!) I've already heard some anecdotal evidence that the test rate has accelerated in July.
 
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They are not doing away with pcr testing, they are expanding it to include influenza A & B.

In preparation for this change, CDC recommends clinical laboratories and testing sites that have been using the CDC 2019-nCoV RT-PCR assay select and begin their transition to another FDA-authorized COVID-19 test. CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses. Such assays can facilitate continued testing for both influenza and SARS-CoV-2 and can save both time and resources as we head into influenza season. Laboratories and testing sites should validate and verify their selected assay within their facility before beginning clinical testing.

 

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They are not doing away with pcr testing, they are expanding it to include influenza A & B.

In preparation for this change, CDC recommends clinical laboratories and testing sites that have been using the CDC 2019-nCoV RT-PCR assay select and begin their transition to another FDA-authorized COVID-19 test. CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses. Such assays can facilitate continued testing for both influenza and SARS-CoV-2 and can save both time and resources as we head into influenza season. Laboratories and testing sites should validate and verify their selected assay within their facility before beginning clinical testing.


Quick, before people get suspicious about the dissapearance of the flu....:shh:
 

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Quick, before people get suspicious about the dissapearance of the flu....:shh:

I thought that maybe they would count all illness after a full covid vaccination as the flu. We will see how it plays out this fall.
 
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Quick, before people get suspicious about the dissapearance of the flu....:shh:
They are bringing it back this year with lots of pump and ceremony. In the UK 35 million doses of the flu vaccine is on its way to us
 

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Bumping this thread as it’s highly relevant to the lunacy we are witnessing in the media this week, increased lunacy I should say, the propaganda baseline is lunacy.

With this in mind I would really like to know if vaccinated patients are being incubated in the same manner are non vax and what’s the reasoning, they will claim symptoms but nurses on site should spot this, it will probably come out down the line.

I would recommend anyone needing a PCR test to say you left your vaccine card/pass at home, you will get a lower cycle and likely be negative, this may work because of psychology within this context, "oh that’s ok your getting a test anyway".

Its such an obvious scam, it’s incredible, I get that it’s moving fast but in hindsight people will be appalled, talk about a smoking gun around other conspiracies like 9/11, covid 19 is like a Wild West shoot out.
 

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And there it is, the fraud lies in plain sight. If there was ever any doubt that the whole thing was a charade and a vaccine-pushing conspiracy, the articles below should dissipate any such remaining doubts. Quietly, and without a single "honorable mention" in MSM, on May 1, 2021 CDC changed the guidelines for both the PCR CT threshold and the definitions of what constitutes a COVID-19 case...but only for those who are vaccinated. In other words, the new guidelines make it virtually impossible for a vaccinated person to be labelled as having COVID-19, but for non-vaccinated people the older, looser guidelines (that virtually guarantee a COVID-19 diagnosis) remain in effect. The new guidelines for vaccinated people are to use a PCR CT count of <28 and to not report asymptomatic or mild cases as an actual COVID-19 "case". This is laughable, as CDC is actually asking doctors that a (vaccinated) person with a positive PCR test (even with a count of <28) and with symptoms not be counted as a COVID-19 case! For the unvaccinated, the guidelines remain absurd as before and the journalists who wrote one of the articles confirmed that in their state (Kansas) private labs continue to use PCR CT count of as high as 45 and the state lab used to use a count of 45 (which even Fauci recently admitted produces meaningless results) but has now "generously" lowered the count to 35. This change by CDC comes a few months after WHO changed its guidelines on PCR CT and symptoms as well (and are actually almost identical to the WHO guidelines) except that WHO did not specify who those guidelines should be used for while CDC explicitly states that those new guidelines should only be used for vaccinated people. So, with the stroke of a pen (or keyboard) the CDC ensures that vaccinated people will almost never be found to have COVID-19 (thus ensuring vaccine effectiveness of 99.999...%), while new COVID-19 cases will continue to skyrockets in the future (especially in the fall/winter) and will only be found in the unvaccinated. The latter ensures ONLY the unvaccinated will be blamed for any future "pandemic" and causing the collapse of the "health" system. It looks like the blame-game is already starting, as the thread below by @Pina shows.

@Drareg @tankasnowgod @Regina @ecstatichamster @boris @Giraffe @bzmazu

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Just like that, being asymptomatic – or having only minor symptoms – will no longer count as a “Covid case” but only if you’ve been vaccinated. The CDC has put new policies in place which effectively created a tiered system of diagnosis. Meaning, from now on, unvaccinated people will find it much easier to be diagnosed with Covid19 than vaccinated people."

"...As reported by Daniel Horowitz at Blaze Media, the new CDC guidance for “COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough case investigation” – meaning people who tested positive after getting vaccinated – says PCR tests should be set at 28 CT or lower. The stated reason for the 28 CT maximum is to avoid false positives on people who have been vaccinated, which would discourage acceptance of the vaccines. This is another example of ‘following the science’ only when it suits a political purpose; to wit, CDC is not recommending the lower threshold for anyone else being tested. False positives must be avoided to encourage vaccinations, but false positives to prevent children from attending school or maintain other government restrictions seem OK with CDC. Last summer, the New York Times reported that CTs above 34 almost never detect live virus but most often, dead nucleotides that are not contagious. The Sentinel found that many private labs in Kansas used thresholds of 38 and 40, and another one in Lenexa potentially at 45. The state lab at the Kansas Department of Health initially used a 42 CT on its most commonly performed test; on January 7, they reduced it to 35."
"...Horowitz quotes former New York Times reporter Alex Berenson as saying a standard of 28 CT applied to the general testing regime would preclude as many as 90% of cases from being recorded."

You only quoted articles, you didn't quote the CDC. Can you verify that the CDC has indeed lowered the CT to 28 only for the vaccinated?
 

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Do a search on Duck Duck Go or even the RPF - you will find several sources.
 

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Cool. There you have the evidence you need to live in fear of the Covid variants - delta and beyond.
 

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Oh, is that your way of not admitting that it's false information?
I have no problem admitting it might have been a false lead - but the question is who cares? The CDC is a joke and bought and paid for and promotes illness and vaccines. Who in their right mind listens to them? Don’t let the fear porn grab a hold of you.
 

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I have no problem admitting it might have been a false lead - but the question is who cares? The CDC is a joke and bought and paid for and promotes illness and vaccines. Who in their right mind listens to them? Don’t let the fear porn grab a hold of you.

I'm not stating this as a way of saying the CDC should be trusted, dear god...you guys can be very cult like. And I've earned the right to say that because I was trapped in one for a decade. I post it because truth is important, because that's important to you, right? Haidut and others apparently listen to the CDC. He linked the CDC to make the false claim. But the link, if you read it, says something different. Isn't sifting the truth from the lies useful in arriving at a closer picture of truth? It's not a minor thing, either. If the CDC is in fact testing everyone the same that does change the narrative around here. It doesn't change the fact that they fraudulently dismiss mild cases in the vaccinated, which I was able to verify through the CDC.
 
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