Another COVID-19 Vaccine Trial Halted Due To Serious Side Effects

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  1. haidut

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    At this point, two out of the four Phase III human clinical trials for COVID-19 vaccine have been halted due to safety concerns as a result of serious adverse events (SAE) in the active group(s). Here is the thread about the other one being halted.
    NIH 'very Concerned' About Serious Side Effect In Coronavirus Vaccine

    Neither one of those halted trials has resumed (in the US), which speaks volumes about the "safety" of the vaccine. The really suspicious thing is that unlike the first SAE issue this time they are not releasing information as to what the SAE event is/was. This usually means the issue is very serious (possibly lethal) so they are giving themselves time to formulate a PR "strategy" and scrambling to find other causes on which to blame the SAE.
    Covid-19 vaccine: Johnson & Johnson pauses trial after 'unexplained illness' - CNN
    "...Johnson & Johnson's Janssen vaccine arm is developing the shot. The company did not say what the unexplained illness was, but one point of clinical trials is to find out if vaccines cause dangerous side effects. Trials are stopped when they pop up while doctors check to see if the illness can be linked to the vaccine or is a coincidence."
    "..."We must respect this participant's privacy. We're also learning more about this participant's illness, and it's important to have all the facts before we share additional information," the company added."

    "...This is the second Phase 3 coronavirus vaccine trial to be paused in the US. AstraZeneca's vaccine trial was paused last month because of a neurological complication in a volunteer in Britain. While the trial resumed there and in other countries, it remains paused in the United States while the US Food and Drug Administration investigates."

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    I think it's important that we make a distinction here. That is, the vaccine trials halted due to immediate side effects, emphasis on immediate. This to satisfy the perspective and sentiment that their vaccines are the root to these sudden so-called pandemics and other long range health and metabolic issues as well as the basic idea that they are really never safe. My somewhat paranoid side would even go as far to say they want to ensure that they put out headlines about a couple of vaccine trial failures to some how "demonstrate" that they're vigorously hard at work to "save us" and that the one that finally sticks will be good for ya lol
     
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    May the vaccine plan be crumbling?
    Any way it goes, Bill Gates will be our saviour. If the vaccines fail, he will have an insurance with his Losartan study.

    Losartan for Patients With COVID-19 Requiring Hospitalization - Full Text View - ClinicalTrials.gov
    INV-017069 ( Other Grant/Funding Number: Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation )


    Sounds very likely. It is hard to imagine they will be stopped from rolling the vaccines out sooner or later, so much money and effort invested.
     
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    So, these drug companies stand to make hundreds of billions of dollars, with zero liability from vaccine harm, and the side effects are so staggeringly bad, they still have to halt their trials.

    Snorting meth off a live rattlesnake appears safer than these vaccines at this point.
     
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    I agree, but I also think some of the anti-vax publicity may be due to good 'ol subversive acts by the "competition". Despite all pharma companies being essentially part of the same cabal, they do not hesitate to throw a wrench in each other's wheels any chance they get if money/profit is at stake. If one company's trial was put on hold and jeopardizes its profits, that company will probably do anything it its power to publicize failures of other company's vaccines as well.
     
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    How did you arrive at 2 out of 4? It seems that there is a much larger number of vaccines currently being tested in phase-III trials.

    Coronavirus Vaccine Tracker
     
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    The choice of words is always telling, "unexplained illness" , many other headlines had similar wording to imply potential pre existing conditions within the patient, I find the pre existing auto immune excuse highlights the psychopathology within these organizations, the immune response from the vaccine triggered it clearly but yet they deny, label and march on, it’s you the genetically determined inferior human that’s at fault.....

    What’s also alarming is many of these vaccines don’t even give immunity to COVID19 but lessen symptoms yet we are still getting these "mysterious illnesses".
    All covid deaths matter but 1 or 2 lives ruined from a vaccine is collateral damage, selective empathy has and is the telling trait within the covid cult since day 1 of the hysteria pandemic.
     
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    Right. That same selective empathy allows people who kept their jobs, homes, 401k's and ability to eat food to not empathize with the hundreds of millions of people suffering and starving. I legit think we're watching the modern holocaust X5 unfold in front of our eyes. It will be completed once the vaccine hits. I said in another thread but it bears repeating: after the vaccine is widely administered and you're reading about it, replace the word "despite" with "because of".
     
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    The two out of four refers to the Phase III trials, as my post says. It's in the CNN article. Two out of the four Phase III trials have been paused so far and there are six total (in any phase) in the US.
    "...Johnson's Phase 3 trial started in September. It's one of six coronavirus vaccines being tested in the US, and one of four in the most advanced, Phase 3 stage. "

    So, this trial and the one by AztraZeneca are both Phase III trials and both have been paused. Btw, this trend of pauses/halting seems to go beyond vaccine trials.
    Eli Lilly's Trial For COVID-19 Antibody Treatment Halted For Safety Reasons
     
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    It's funny how the "pre-existing conditions" are always brought up when it comes to COVID-19 vaccine/treatment trails but rarely (if ever) when it comes to attributing/determining cause of death in people with COVID-19.
     
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    Yeah, It's called being 'economical' with the truth!, well said Sir Haidut :):
     
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    You don't need to be paranoid, in both cases as the trial halting hit the national news over here the local expert they interviewed was there to mainly tell that this is good evidence of how careful they are to not cut any safety corners.
     
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    That’s the covid cult hokey pokey at work, the CCHP is used with lots of hand waving and selective empathy to try put you in a hypnotic trance of learned helplessness, when wake up you are in a bizarre global communist system run by central banks and that’s what it’s all about.
     
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    Exactly while they sit there in sweatshop made socks and underpants doing a try on haul for their Vlog on youtube or insta, I call this the "underpants fallacy".
    Primitive mammalian brains in flow, the pre frontal cortex has closed the door to stop the madness getting in, it can only hold out so long before the serotonin pufa saturated deluge enters and it’s function is gone forever, it’s trying to reason with the mammalian brain through the door but it’s hysterical and just screams continually like on of those antifa types.
     
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    Ha, the perfect illustration.
     
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