Spike Protein's - How to Detox

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IMO ebola is common endemic diseases (eg, malaria) made worse by nutritional deficiencies brought on by deforestation and wars and by medical treatments. It appears at first glance that selenium deficiency may be a factor in the former.
I have often wondered why it is that viruses such as Ebola are only prevalent in certain parts of the world. As we seen with influenza viruses and of course coronaviruses, these entities travel all around the world and as the lockdowns demonstrated very effectively you cannot hide from them. So why would Ebola be different from Influeza or coronavirus?
Unless it has to do with the nutritional deficiencies as you have mentioned, which also has a direct impact on the metabolic rate and therefore the generative energies produced by the organism.
It would seem obvious that in order for the immune system to perform optimally sufficient energy would be a necessity. So would it be out of the realm of possibility that the numerous viruses and pathogens we are confronted with daily would exclude these types of viruses?
 

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I was listening to this video and wondering if there are any detox protocols that will reset (undo) the changes that the spike protein has made to the immune systems of the jabbed?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mchcfwkxmk8

I was wondering something in the same vein @David PS . There are a tonne of spike protein detox protocols out there now. But how many actually have any data that can verify the elimination or can see a marked reduction in the body?
 

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I have often wondered why it is that viruses such as Ebola are only prevalent in certain parts of the world. As we seen with influenza viruses and of course coronaviruses, these entities travel all around the world and as the lockdowns demonstrated very effectively you cannot hide from them. So why would Ebola be different from Influeza or coronavirus?
Unless it has to do with the nutritional deficiencies as you have mentioned, which also has a direct impact on the metabolic rate and therefore the generative energies produced by the organism.
It would seem obvious that in order for the immune system to perform optimally sufficient energy would be a necessity. So would it be out of the realm of possibility that the numerous viruses and pathogens we are confronted with daily would exclude these types of viruses?

I always thought that something about the ebola stories doesn't add up. There is this monster killer thingy that comes out of the blue once in a while .... from an unknown animal a the source .... and it is so scary infectious and deadly. Why has it not managed yet to depopulate Africa?

And if you watch documentaries about outbreaks and the work of foreign aid agencies you will hear that a lot of Africans in affected regions don't believe that ebola is real. And if those foreign aid agencies go to a village to offer medical help or vaccines they often need an escort by the military (because of the civil war they say). - And I would like to point that I got this from documentaries that praised the work of the help organisations and the self-sacrificing doctors and nurses.

Jon Rappoport has written a couple of articles about ebola and such. He thinks that ebola is a hoax and / or cover story.

 

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I always thought that something about the ebola stories doesn't add up. There is this monster killer thingy that comes out of the blue once in a while .... from an unknown animal a the source .... and it is so scary infectious and deadly. Why has it not managed yet to depopulate Africa?

And if you watch documentaries about outbreaks and the work of foreign aid agencies you will hear that a lot of Africans in affected regions don't believe that ebola is real. And if those foreign aid agencies go to a village to offer medical help or vaccines they often need an escort by the military (because of the civil war they say). - And I would like to point that I got this from documentaries that praised the work of the help organisations and the self-sacrificing doctors and nurses.

Jon Rappoport has written a couple of articles about ebola and such. He thinks that ebola is a hoax and / or cover story.

Rappoport makes some compelling arguments, and as with the pandemic it is those with compromised health, nutrition, and compromised immune systems that seem to take the biggest hits. We are also seeing compromised immune systems with the gene therapy shots, which are increasing the levels of severe disease and death in the vaccinated cohort.
I remember Dr Peat saying about the coronavirus associated with the pandemic,”if you are afraid of this virus you are also probably afraid of the Ebola virus”. I found that statement to be fascinating unfortunately no one queried him to expand on that statement. The fact that selenium can improve the survival rate drastically could be indicative of the poor nutrition and lack of potable safe drinking water, combined with the use of pesticides that are banned and/or expired this increasing their toxicity, as well as the issue of appropriate PPE not addressed in the article as well as safe handling and application / dilution practices. Opens up many more questions and a possibility that might contribute to the randomness of these outbreaks. Indeed Ebola might be endemic as you indicated @Giraffe, but the evidence that environment, toxic chemicals and pollution could very well be hiding under the cover of the label,”Ebola.
 

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1. Has anyone ever isolated spike protein from a vaxxed persons blood,tissues , ever ? Or from someone who had covid ? Must be the easiest thing to do especially with so many people who took the jab.

2.Has anyone taken the isolated protein and injected it into a healthy subject/animal to prove its effects on the organism ?

I would love to see any studies that prove the vaccine causes the body to create the spike protein. Saw an interview with an Italian doctor who claimed it is all a scam and that all spike protein studies are using lab made /recombinant spike protein/ and never a natural isolate which raises a few red flags immediately.

All damage is caused by the poisons inside the shot instead of some mRNA entering the cells and instructing them to create proteins. Seems the cells are really well protected against exactly this kind of manipulation with several layers of protection and he believes there is no way to do it consistently.

He could be wrong about that. Never had the time to research myself further. But I am open to such claims as we have seen a lot deeper deceptions recently.

It is important to prove something is 100% true before any further research on how to detox.

IF it turns out as another scam and fearmongering this is one less thing to worry about and good news.
 
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1. Has anyone ever isolated spike protein from a vaxxed persons blood,tissues , ever ? Or from someone who had covid ? Must be the easiest thing to do especially with so many people who took the jab.

2.Has anyone taken the isolated protein and injected it into a healthy subject/animal to prove its effects on the organism ?

I would love to see any studies that prove the vaccine causes the body to create the spike protein. Saw an interview with an Italian doctor who claimed it is all a scam and that all spike protein studies are using lab made /recombinant spike protein/ and never a natural isolate which raises a few red flags immediately.

All damage is caused by the poisons inside the shot instead of some mRNA entering the cells and instructing them to create proteins. Seems the cells are really well protected against exactly this kind of manipulation with several layers of protection and he believes there is no way to do it consistently.

He could be wrong about that. Never had the time to research myself further. But I am open to such claims as we have seen a lot deeper deceptions recently.

It is important to prove something is 100% true before any further research on how to detox.

IF it turns out as another scam and fearmongering this is one less thing to worry about and good news.

Ray Peat has said that you do not need to isolate something in order to prove that it is there. There is a German pathologist - Prof. Arne Burkhardt - who has done numerous postmortems in people that died after the clot shot. In order to look for the presence of spike proteins he uses a method called immunohistochemistry.

Prof. Burkhardt said that he found spike proteins in many organs of people that have died after the clot shot, and he also found them in tissue samples of patients. He is sure that the spike proteins the tests show are from the injection and not from a natural infection because the tests are negative for the nucleocapsid. The nucleocapsid is a protein that belongs to the virus, but it is not expressed by the experimental mRNA.

Here is an illustration to give an idea what immunohistochemistry means:


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Ray Peat has said that you do not need to isolate something in order to prove that it is there. There is a German pathologist - Prof. Arne Burkhardt - who has done numerous postmortems in people that died after the clot shot. In order to look for the presence of spike proteins he uses a method called immunohistochemistry.

Prof. Burkhardt said that he found spike proteins in many organs of people that have died after the clot shot, and he also found them in tissue samples of patients. He is sure that the spike proteins the tests show are from the injection and not from a natural infection because the tests are negative for the nucleocapsid. The nucleocapsid is a protein that belongs to the virus, but it is not expressed by the experimental mRNA.

Here is an illustration to give an idea what immunohistochemistry means:


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I want to apologize for my complete newbie but a bit more intuitive view on the papers you showed me. I might be completely wrong but I think the Italian Doc has a point:

From what I read in the papers you provided the Prof. is using antibodies that are supposedly specific for the spike protein to figure out whether the spike protein is there.

"If a vaccine particle—composed of the spike-encoding mRNA, coated with lipids—enters a body cell, this will cause the spike protein to be synthesized within the cell and then taken to the cell surface. There, it can be recognized by a spike-specific antibody."

But it is not enough to find this supposedly spike protein specific antibody, he must use another antibody /secondary/ and an enzyme:

"After washing the tissue specimen to remove unbound antibody molecules, the bound ones can be detected with a secondary antibody that is coupled with some enzyme, often horseradish peroxidase. After another washing step, the specimen is incubated with a water-soluble precursor dye that is converted by the enzyme to an insoluble brown pigment."

In short, in my highly suspicious mind this looks like a process in which a lot of assumptions must be accepted and cannot be considered as quote "irrefutable proof" .

The number one is that the antibody used to "find" the protein IS SPECIFIC and can be triggered ONLY by the mRNA inside the cells and nothing else present in the shot. Which from my understanding - antibodies are NON-SPECIFIC and can be triggered by multiple different things.

The official reason why adjuvants are used in the vaccines is that they make the immune response much stronger. From my understanding/very limited again, apologies/ - if there are no adjuvants there is literally 0 response by the immune system. So again , from my highly conspiratorial mind - 100% of the response can be from the so called "adjuvants" which in my simpleton mind are pure poisons.

Isn't it suspicious that they try to prove the existence of a protein that is around 200kda by finding antibodies that are smaller around 150kda and in order to find them you need to use secondary antibodies and enzymes ? Why not try to find the protein itself ? Especially if the spike protein gets concentrated in certain organs like the spleen ? Why not open up the spleen and take a look ?
 
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I want to apologize for my complete newbie but a bit more intuitive view on the papers you showed me. I might be completely wrong but I think the Italian Doc has a point:

From what I read in the papers you provided the Prof. is using antibodies that are supposedly specific for the spike protein to figure out whether the spike protein is there.

"If a vaccine particle—composed of the spike-encoding mRNA, coated with lipids—enters a body cell, this will cause the spike protein to be synthesized within the cell and then taken to the cell surface. There, it can be recognized by a spike-specific antibody."

But it is not enough to find this supposedly spike protein specific antibody, he must use another antibody /secondary/ and an enzyme:

"After washing the tissue specimen to remove unbound antibody molecules, the bound ones can be detected with a secondary antibody that is coupled with some enzyme, often horseradish peroxidase. After another washing step, the specimen is incubated with a water-soluble precursor dye that is converted by the enzyme to an insoluble brown pigment."

In short, in my highly suspicious mind this looks like a process in which a lot of assumptions must be accepted and cannot be considered as quote "irrefutable proof" .

The number one is that the antibody used to "find" the protein IS SPECIFIC and can be triggered ONLY by the mRNA inside the cells and nothing else present in the shot. Which from my understanding - antibodies are NON-SPECIFIC and can be triggered by multiple different things.

The official reason why adjuvants are used in the vaccines is that they make the immune response much stronger. From my understanding/very limited again, apologies/ - if there are no adjuvants there is literally 0 response by the immune system. So again , from my highly conspiratorial mind - 100% of the response can be from the so called "adjuvants" which in my simpleton mind are pure poisons.

Isn't it suspicious that they try to prove the existence of a protein that is around 200kda by finding antibodies that are smaller around 150kda and in order to find them you need to use secondary antibodies and enzymes ? Why not try to find the protein itself ? Especially if the spike protein gets concentrated in certain organs like the spleen ? Why not open up the spleen and take a look ?
Your points and questions are both accurate and valid @PopSocket. The chemicals used in the shots are toxic on their own, as is the lipid nanoparticle as described by Dr Jessica Rose and Dr Byram Bridle’s breakdown of the trials for the lipid nanoparticle. The one fact that is known about the spike protein is that it is cytotoxic if the injected person can manifest it and that the bio distribution study done by the Japanese indicates system wide spread of the mRNA and that it will use any cell it finds to deliver the payload.
But that also would indicate that there is system wide spread of all the chemicals and lipoid nanoparticle envelopes as well. So if the spike protein is supposed to act as both adjuvant and antigen. The toxic nature of these other chemicals used as preservation and storage will possibly also have an effect that is unknown and unstudied as to the side effects from the combination of these chemicals. As you have stated indeed the adverse events seen could be as a result of these chemicals exerting a toxic effect on the person injected. Also chemicals themselves can impart an antibody reaction. As Dr Peat describes here.

 

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In short, in my highly suspicious mind this looks like a process in which a lot of assumptions must be accepted and cannot be considered as quote "irrefutable proof" .

You asked for studies and I provided that link.

I understand that you ask what those tests really prove. I guess I trust Prof Burkhardt on this for the moment while remaining open for alternative explanations. The lipid nanoparticles alone are toxic enough to explain a lot of the damage done by the shots.

The kind of adverse effects that Sucharit Bhakdi, Wolfgang Wodarg, Michael Yeadon and others have warned against right from the beginning based on what was known back then about spike proteins... for example micro clots in the small blood vessels: we see this now. So for me this is consistent with the theory that those injections make the cells of the body produce the spike protein.

Why not try to find the protein itself ? Especially if the spike protein gets concentrated in certain organs like the spleen ? Why not open up the spleen and take a look ?

In your view what would be a legit way to prove that there are spike proteins present? Aren't all tests for viruses indirect after all?


Virus isolation is the targeted propagation of viruses from biological samples such as infectious material. The viruses can be propagated in cell cultures, embryonated chicken eggs or experimental animals and identified and characterized using specific detection methods. Virus isolation serves either as a classical method for the discovery of new, previously unknown viruses or as a method for the detection of a known virus in the context of virus diagnostics. Virus isolation is opposed to direct pathogen detection without propagation.

The procedure involves collection of the analytical sample, occasionally purification, and determination of systematics or other characteristics such as tropism, infectivity, and pathogenicity. When grown in animals as hosts, the assignment of the isolated virus to a specific disease pattern can be performed according to the Henle-Koch postulates. [source: wikipedia]
 

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The kind of adverse effects that Sucharit Bhakdi, Wolfgang Wodarg, Michael Yeadon and others have warned against right from the beginning based on what was known back then about spike proteins... for example micro clots in the small blood vessels: we see this now. So for me this is consistent with the theory that those injections make the cells of the body produce the spike protein.

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Clots can be caused by many different things. Inflammation is a major trigger. Inflammation can be caused by thousands of different poisons found in the shot. The essential function of all shots is to trigger certain inflammatory pathways. Inflammation can be caused by a simple procedure of injecting any foreign protein inside the tissue. No need for mRNA or any special type of toxin.

The interactions between inflammation and coagulation

"Inflammation initiates clotting, decreases the activity of natural anticoagulant mechanisms and impairs the fibrinolytic system."

Cross Talk Pathways Between Coagulation and Inflammation

"There is, in fact, extensive cross talk between coagulation and inflammation, whereby activation of one system may amplify activation of the other, a situation that, if unopposed, may result in tissue damage or even multiorgan failure."

There are many studies showing this and it is something that can be proven easily. While the existence of a spike protein and mRNA doing the magic thing "they" say it does remain purely theoretical and unproven (for now). I am willing to change my stance in a heartbeat if I see some real proof.

I am not trying to argue with anyone here. I am just trying to get to the bottom of things using a bit of logic and a lot of intuition as I have not studied biology for a decade or more.

It seems to me many of the new "facts" are just a very well crafted distraction to point our attention in the wrong direction. Even super smart people are falling for it because they lack the gut feel to recognize the BS from the truth. Actually, the smarter one is the bigger the chance to fall in the trap.

"They" are really masters of this kind of psychological technique and it is important to stick to the basics and not get overwhelmed by the new information coming out to confuse us. Just my way of seeing things. Possibly I am wrong.
 

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Clots can be caused by many different things. Inflammation is a major trigger. Inflammation can be caused by thousands of different poisons found in the shot. The essential function of all shots is to trigger certain inflammatory pathways. Inflammation can be caused by a simple procedure of injecting any foreign protein inside the tissue. No need for mRNA or any special type of toxin.

The interactions between inflammation and coagulation

"Inflammation initiates clotting, decreases the activity of natural anticoagulant mechanisms and impairs the fibrinolytic system."

Cross Talk Pathways Between Coagulation and Inflammation

"There is, in fact, extensive cross talk between coagulation and inflammation, whereby activation of one system may amplify activation of the other, a situation that, if unopposed, may result in tissue damage or even multiorgan failure."

There are many studies showing this and it is something that can be proven easily. While the existence of a spike protein and mRNA doing the magic thing "they" say it does remain purely theoretical and unproven (for now). I am willing to change my stance in a heartbeat if I see some real proof.

I am not trying to argue with anyone here. I am just trying to get to the bottom of things using a bit of logic and a lot of intuition as I have not studied biology for a decade or more.

It seems to me many of the new "facts" are just a very well crafted distraction to point our attention in the wrong direction. Even super smart people are falling for it because they lack the gut feel to recognize the BS from the truth. Actually, the smarter one is the bigger the chance to fall in the trap.

"They" are really masters of this kind of psychological technique and it is important to stick to the basics and not get overwhelmed by the new information coming out to confuse us. Just my way of seeing things. Possibly I am wrong.
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Clots can be caused by many different things. Inflammation is a major trigger. Inflammation can be caused by thousands of different poisons found in the shot. The essential function of all shots is to trigger certain inflammatory pathways. Inflammation can be caused by a simple procedure of injecting any foreign protein inside the tissue. No need for mRNA or any special type of toxin.

The interactions between inflammation and coagulation

"Inflammation initiates clotting, decreases the activity of natural anticoagulant mechanisms and impairs the fibrinolytic system."

Cross Talk Pathways Between Coagulation and Inflammation

"There is, in fact, extensive cross talk between coagulation and inflammation, whereby activation of one system may amplify activation of the other, a situation that, if unopposed, may result in tissue damage or even multiorgan failure."

There are many studies showing this and it is something that can be proven easily. While the existence of a spike protein and mRNA doing the magic thing "they" say it does remain purely theoretical and unproven (for now). I am willing to change my stance in a heartbeat if I see some real proof.

I am not trying to argue with anyone here. I am just trying to get to the bottom of things using a bit of logic and a lot of intuition as I have not studied biology for a decade or more.

It seems to me many of the new "facts" are just a very well crafted distraction to point our attention in the wrong direction. Even super smart people are falling for it because they lack the gut feel to recognize the BS from the truth. Actually, the smarter one is the bigger the chance to fall in the trap.

"They" are really masters of this kind of psychological technique and it is important to stick to the basics and not get overwhelmed by the new information coming out to confuse us. Just my way of seeing things. Possibly I am wrong.

I am asking you again... What kind of proof that the spike protein is real would you accept? My impression is that none of the tests for viruses are legit in your view.
 

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I am asking you again... What kind of proof that the spike protein is real would you accept? My impression is that none of the tests for viruses are legit in your view.
Isolate the protein from a vaxxed person and study it. I am quite amazed nobody actually did it. I too "believed" the spike protein stuff until like a week ago. Been researching this non-stop since then and it seems like a scam/for now/. Waiting for some information to come out as I believe this topic will be discussed a lot in the future.

Every time I say the word "believe" makes me feel unwell physically/especially last few weeks/ so I cannot really share my view on viruses and the tests. But yeah , they seems dodgy as well. Obviously "viruses" aka genetic code are found in a sick people/and sometimes healthy as well/ with common symptoms but where it comes from is a bit of a debate that still is not settled from the way I see it. One side says it is dead cell debris the other side says its a parasitic genetic code that comes from the outside/does it?/. So what are those tests actually detecting ?

Not sure about that. And I am not sure one of the two sides got it right.

edit: Spike protein scare and the virus scare share the same thing - they are making us fear each other. The vaxxed are shedding spikes that will make us sick and the sick are viruses spreading machines and this will put us on the ventilator. Stay away from each other and fear everyone ! No hugs, no kisses ,no sex. Its like they are trying to mind trip us. I have hugged, kissed and showed love to vaxxed people and I am getting better everyday /knock on wood/. No problems whatsoever. Seems like the whole thing is a mind trip created for the masses to lower consciousness through fear.
 
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2 weeks of Nattokinase and my chest pain and nerve tingling and numbness down my left arm completely went away.
It sounds like you found a good source. Did you use a supplement form or were you brave enough to go for the real deal of natto? @LadyRae ?
 
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