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Dr. Peter McCullough on Joe Rogan Experience
The following are the relative timestamps with summary explanations from the Dr. Peter McCullough interview on the Joe Rogan Experience. I will be brief in this introduction, but Dr. McCullough is the one of the most published cardiologist in history, runs a journal, and is not merely an...
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00:00 - intro
3:15 – Dr. McCullough asked when on the task forces “When are we going to start to treat patients?” No one had an idea about treatment.
3:50 – all the discussing was on PPE like masks, sanitizer. It was all about protecting healthcare workers – not treating patients
4:30 – no treatment protocols were enforced
5:15 – he created the first multi-drug regiment for treatments
5:40 – knowing there wasn't time for a multi-year study, they took the precautionary approaches, looking for drugs with a signal of benefit and acceptable safety.
5:55 – early on knew the illness had 3 hallmarks – cytokine storm, viral replications, and thrombosis
6:15 – there were tens of thousands of papers on COVID but none on treatments of patients.
7 – the US had stockpiled hydroxycholoquine (we will abbreviate HCQ), but wasn't releasing it.
7:20 – the White House called Dr. McCullough to try to get the HCQ released because “it seemed the FDA and others were colluding” to prevent it being released.
7:30 – HCQ was OTC in France, until the Dr. Didiot Renault (spelling unsure) began widely using it, so it was made prescription only.
7:40 – Queensland Aus made it so in April if a doctor prescribed HCQ they could be jailed
8:30 – 2006 studies showed HCQ prevented replication of SARS-CoV-1
10:20 – emergency authorization use of a vaccine has never been used before. Vaccines are for prevention – HCQ is for treatment
15:30 – based on just 2 studies with limited sample sizes, the FDA explicitly told doctors not to use HCQ
18 – How did Australia know to make HCQ illegal for doctors to prescribe before these studies were done?
23 – Fraudulent study on HCQ was published showing it was “ineffective and harmful” for COVID treatment. The company which “did” the study was found to possibly be made up – this was right before the HCQ ban. Paper was allowed to exist for over 2 weeks before removal.
25 – the spike protein being the primary infector was discovered years before
26:20 – when there was a “realization” about the spike protein, all studies on Ivermectin and HCQ were stopped
27: 30 – there was no traction/discussion about alternative vaccine possibilities as if the Pfizer/Moderna ones had already been decided on.
28:15 – of the 800,000 deaths, 2:1 they received no or inadequate treatments
29:30 – a pre-hospital treatment showed to be effective.
29:45 – the Italians showed us autopsies that the lungs were filled with blood clots if the virus was allowed to run its course
30 – under oath before the US Senate Nov 2020, Dr. McCullough told Americans 50% of lives lost could've been saved. By Feb, under oath again, he said 85%
31:30 – it seemed very early on there was an attempt to smear and crush treatment based approaches to promote fear, isolation, suffering, hostility, hospitalization and deathand it seemed entirely intentional to create and promote acceptance for mass vaccination.
32 – some books written about it. One book (Bregan? Name unsure) has 1000 citations showing this was a coordinated and planned.
32:45 – There is evidence showing Moderna was working on vaccine BEFORE lab leak, collusion between Gates Foundation, GAVI(?), Pfizer, Moderna, Wuhan lab, NIH et al.
33:15 – Johns Hopkins planning seminar had a “SPARS” Pandemic in 2017 and said there would soon be a pandemic and it would be a Coronavirus, there would be mass panic and lockdowns and that there would be confusion around a drug (HCQ), and that it would all be to “railroad the populations” into mass vaccinations.
35 – mass psychosis – a group think where it is so strong that it leads to horrific things such as Nazi Germany. 4 elements. First a period of prolonged isolation. Second a withdrawal of things which people used to enjoy. Three, constant and incessant free-floating anxiety – death, hospitalizations, variants. Four, a single solution offered by authority figure.
38:30 – 4 pillars of pandemic response. One, reduce spread – not contact based, air. Contagion control.
40:30 - “You have to spend about 3 hours in a tight room with infected individuals to get it” and explains iodine based treatment to clear virus from nose and passages.
42 – masks.
43 – (Pillars continued) two is early treatment. Three is improving hospital treatments – there should've been monthly updates from fed on early treatments.
46:15 – this mass psychosis is focused on pillar 4, the single solution.
46:30 – in early 2020 the vaccine development program was far more advanced than it should've been – how could they have known about the neutralizing antibodies? The spike protein already mapped? How to we load it for delivery?
48 – COVID is a relative of HIV – one of the first vaxx trials made everyone show HIV positive (they didn't have HIV, but molecularily it showed)
48:45 – it's clear the mass psychosis was planned – Johns Hopkins had it in their planning documents since 2017
49:15 – the avg death certificate comes 6 weeks after death so how are news outlets getting these daily COVID death numbers? We still don't know.
49:40 – on CDC website “about 90% of deaths that occur with COVID have assoc to significant comorbities. Italians say 97%” meaning heart failure, lung disease etc. The question is how much of the COVID does one die of and how much of the heart disease, myeloma, etc do they die of?
51:30 – the number of positive tests was padded.
51:45 – the virus is NOT spread asymptomatically – it transfers from sick person to sick person.
52:10 - “Someone cannot walk into the work place with no symptoms and give the virus to someone else”
53 – asymptomatic testing – the WHO and FDS say no asymptomatic testing. Normal people without COVID, there is a 97% chance it is a false positive.
53:45 – The CDC said when pressed by attorney “you cannot get COVID twice” and anyone who's been tested positive twice it is either a false positive or they have the dead virus
54:45 – if it were possible to get COVID twice, it would've never ended in nursing homes and they would've lived on ventilators.
55:30 – the CDC approved PCR tests couldn't distinguish between flu and COVID leading to believe someone got COVID twice.
56 - Why, then, is there such resistance to the idea of natural immunity? “All roads lead to vaccine.” Why is there no Harvard et al protocol to prevent hospitalization and death? We're 2 years into this and Harvard won't treat a single person at home to prevent hospitalization?
58 – Peter and other doctors in November 19 2020 testified under oath that they had no issues with the vax. All they had were press releases showing from clinical trials under 2 month trials had 90% efficacy. “[the vaccine] looked terrific.”
59 – 18000 in each trial group. That meant that less than 1% of people got COVID. His labs showed 5-15% positivity rates. How did vaccine trials recruit people with a less than 1% chance of getting COVID?
1H – 3 months into the vaccinations, the White House task for released no report on numbers vaxxed, cases who ended up in hosp anyway, negative effects of vaccine. Nothing.
1:00:45 – hospitals began doing differential testing. Once someone takes vaccine, hosp doesn't test them for COVID if they come in for all manner of things. If they don't take the vaccine, they test them – remember, the tests show false positives. This exaggerated the effects of the vaccine.
1:01 – Mar-Aug 2021, vaxx efficacy for Moderna was 92%, Pfizer, 77%, J&J 68%, did have positive effect against COVID.
1:02:15 – vaxxed and hospitalized mortality rate ~6%, unvaxxed and hospitalized mortality ~8% - “not statistically significant.”
1:02:55 – over 65 for non-COVID related deaths, the vaxx is assoc in reduction of non-COVID related deaths, 1% overall absolute risk reduction of death. Only a 1.5% reduction in death from COVID
1:04:30 – those of 65 (in veterans) who are COVID positive and survived was 87% in those who took vaxx and 78% in those without the vaxx.
1:06 – at 6 months out, the vaccines efficacy drops down resulting in the booster push.
1:06:45 – immuno-compromised individuals receive the least benefit from vaccines
1:07 – defines immuno-compromised per CDC
1:07:30 – why obesity is such a powerful comorbidity for COVID. SARS-CoV-2 has 2 unique symptoms as viral syndrome. First is the cytokine storm hyper-immune activation with the most unique cytokine, interleukine-6 which is produced with fat cells. These are damaging by themselves. The virus triggers fat cells to produce tons.
1:08:30 – other unique thing about (obesity related) it is blood clotting.
1:09:00 - “is the overweight issue scalable? If you're 40# overweight vs 100#, is it worse for 100# overweight” Peter says it is “clearly scalable.”
1:10 – adding iodine etc to something like a neti pot can greatly “knock down” the viral load which “bakes” in the nose and mouth.
1:11:45 – multiples letters from hospital institutions explicitly told Peter “you cannot treat COVID patients” as it “could cause harm,” as if COVID wasn't already harmful. Peter said “we need to treat patients to prevent hospitalization and death” very early on and was denied.
1:12:45 – Didiot in France set up out-patient tents at his institution for treating patients (plenty of elderly French citizens in Marseilles on French Riviera) and the government shut him down, making Hydrochloroqine prescription only, instead of OTC.
1:13:15 – doctors were arrested in South Africa for prescribing Ivermectin.
1:13:30 – the monocolonal antibodies have a 50-85% chance to reduce hospitalization and death
1:14 – you know science is working correctly when myself, Didiot Rialta, and (couldn't understand name) come up with the same results independently.
1:15:30 – Peter testifying, asking “where are ads/phone numbers” so that citizens can access monocolonal antibodies
1:17:15 – He gave a speech at a hospital, confronted by head of facility
1:18:15 – When testifying before Texas senate, insisted “most important thing is the sick person right in front of you”
1:19:15 - “I think Ivermectin has the best efficacy”
1:19:22 – “The monocolonal antibodies were available before vaccines, they're emergency use auth. And have more impressive results”
1:20:15 - “Do you think there's any reason for somebody who's had COVID to get vaccinated?” “No.” There are multiple studies showing getting the vaccine if you've had COVID already that it can cause harm.
1:20:50 - “The vaccines – like any other medical treatments – are not free of adverse effects”
1:21:15 – There are 3 ways to prove your immunity. 1. a “concrete case” of COVID with confirmatory testing
1:21:45 - “Why aren't we using confirmatory testing?”
1:21:50 - “in a case where you're sick and it's well documented you're done, you basically have permanent immunity. There are over 135 studies that support that. Permanent immunity. SARS-COVI-1, which is 90% similar to SARS-COVI-2, is forever. Everything we can tell you have lifetime immunity.”
1:22:20 - “the CDC is a stakeholder in the vaccine program. The CDC and FDA are the sponsors of the US vaccine program”
1:22:35 – the CDC and FDA telling people to get the vaxx even if they've had COVID because they can get it again.
1:23:13 - “Nobody can encourage somebody to get the vaccine – that violates the Nuremberg Code. Research is neutral. As a doctor, I cannot tell somebody they should get the COVID vaccine, why? Same reason I cannot tell someone to take my research pill for diabetes – if I suggested someone should be in my study I'd be sanctioned by the IRB and FDA. We never give any suggestion, coercion or threat of reprisal for something in ongoing research. It violates the Nuremberg Code.”
1:25:30 – If an FDA approved product has 5 deaths, even unexplained, they get a “may cause death” warning. 50 deaths and it's off the market and re-reviewed. “We never let a drug go on and be associated with 50+ deaths.”
1:25:50 - “we were at 182 deaths (by Jan 2021) and there was no safety review (per those guidelines)”
1:27 – by March, we were at 1,200 deaths.
1:27:48 – today we are at 18,000 deaths as certified by CDC
1:28:10 - “there are 30,000 individuals who are permanently disabled after the vaccine. 250,000 ER visits related to the vaccine.”
1:28:30 – 50% of these deaths occur within 48 hours of vaccination. 80% within a week. Very tightly correlated.
1:29:15 - “vast majority of the deaths are in seniors – the very people we wanted to protect.”
1:29:35 – from study done, “86% of the deaths had no other causes” outside of the vaccine.
1:30 – there was a nursing home with 100 deaths recorded after a vaccine in a study
1:30:55 – there was an FDA whistleblower lawsuit for deaths after vaccine based on data from the CMS, Central Medicaid Services
1:31:15 – the FDA underreported deaths by approx 4-5x, so there are ~45,000 deaths in this lawsuit against the FDA
1:32:15 – the CMS data shows when and where they got the shot
1:34 – the spike protein used in the vaccines causes damage to the cells, heart, brain, and causes blood clotting
1:35 - “I am an epidemiologist by training, this is my line of work. (& based upon the Bradford Hill Criteria for Causality) For a large number of individuals the vaccine has caused death and these vaccine induced organ injury syndromes.”
1:35:45 – over 146m people have had the respiratory infection, less than 1% has died.
1:37 – the myocarditis is disproportionately affecting boys vs girls, 80% of boys, 20% of girls
1:38 – study from Finland pre-COVID found 4 cases per million of myocarditis.
1:38:40 – per VAERS (the CDC tracking system) we are at 13,000 cases of myocarditis. Should be no more than 600.
1:38:55 – 80% of the children's' cases of it result in hospitalization. About ¼ have significant heart damage
1:41:20 – it is known and the FDA agrees that the vaccines do go to the heart
1:42 - “the heart swells and gets about double the size with myocarditis after the vaccines”
1:43:30 - “I've seen one or two cases of spontaneous myocarditis in my career”
1:45 – a study, pre-COVID, showed 13% of myocarditis cases showed progressive heart failure.
1:46:50 - The FDA & CDC said 2 things - “(myocarditis) is rare and mild”
1:47:20 – young boys are much more likely to be hospitalized with myocarditis than COVID
1:47:50 – from the previous study on myocarditis, pre-COVID, 27% never deviated from normal heart function, 26% were recovered fully, 34% improved but not back to normal, 13% were impaired (never recovered)
1:48:30 – (Rogan) the static breath hold record holder (~10 minutes holding breath) got myocarditis and now only has 70% of his former ability
1:49 – (in response to the question of why so many people are honestly fine after vaccine) “Because the body is a miraculous creation”
1:50 – if we begin vaxxing every 6 months, the body will accumulate the spike proteins which is “very worrisome”
1:50:45 – he believes the spike protein stays in the body at least a year. Majority of people in his clinic did fine with the vaccines. If they've been vaxxed and get COVID, it IS milder, but he still gives monocolonal antibodies, Ivermectin, and Prednisone
1:51:10 – the CDC told us in October there were about 41,000 “vaccine failure” cases and ¼ of them were deaths.
1:51:30 – the vaccines do do something. They provide “modest protection against hospitalization and death”
1:52 – the treatment of myocarditis is 6 months of no physical activities as it can trigger cardiac death.
1:53:30 – patients ask Dr. McCullough about them being mandated to be vaccinated, he asks what is their social contract – what do they get out of it? 5 years? 10?
1:54 – Tess Lowrie World of Health organization (Here's how you can detox from the spike protein)
1:56:30 - “There is no moral hazard for deferring on the vaccines because they're in research and they're elective.”
1:56:45 - “there is no data suggesting the vaccine protects others”
1:57:25 - “follow the science” and they follow it. Paper in Lancet, 39% of transmission occurred from fully vaxxed to fully vaxxed.
1:58:55 - “in June remember the talking point of '99% of people hospitalized are unvaccinated'? That's propaganda. That's false info put out by people in positions of authority.”
2H – monocolonal as preventative discussion. They are safe, effective, product of Operation Warp Speed
2:01 - “(Rogan) there is more than enough monocolonal antibodies – what is stopping distribution?” (see next)
2:01:50 – the rules preventing people from getting the monocolonal antibodies are arbitrary
2:04 – when patients are admitted to the hospital, they aren't getting the monocolonal antibodies
2:04:45 - “(Rogan) why when you go into hospital won't they give you the monocolonal antibodies?” The rules why they won't are totally arbitrary.
2:07:30 – there are only 500 doctors in the USA advising on COVID in the way Dr. McCullough is.
2:09:15 – In Senate testimony, one witness said Americans should follow the guidelines, staying home if they are sick until they are no longer able to breathe, at which point they should go to the hospital. Dr. McCullough put it on record that this was a reckless thing to say – the sooner treatments are administered, the more effective they are.
2:10:05 – other illnesses have grading on their quality of care based on how soon treatments are administered. Why is this not the case, here?
2:10:15 – (example story) imagine you're 70+ with heart and lung disease, following guidelines, you get sick, are isolated from kids, grandkids and loved ones, getting sicker and sicker. Finally at 2 weeks, you cannot breathe, call 911 – contaminating everyone anyway – are brought to the hospital, given remdesivir, put into isolation, you never are allowed to see your family and then die alone. This has happened to 800,000 Americans.
2:10:50 – (Rogan) in reference to above story of 70+ man, “this is why you believe that at least 50% of the deaths could've been prevented” Dr. McCullough “this number is probably 85% now”
2:11:15 – this is a process and we can't view any of these as miracle drugs
2:11:25 - “What drives hospitalization is UNCONTROLLABLE SYMPTOMS (emphasis not added!)”
2:11:55 – Steve Kirsch who funded vaccine injury recovery program offers anyone from any major academic center or govt agency who will come have a fair discussion on vaccine safety and efficacy he will pay them $2,000,000.
2:12:30 – anyone, per the above offer, who can come and ever try to make the case the vaccines are safe and effective you get the $2,000,000 – even if you “lose” and can't make the case, you make the cash...and no one from any govt agency or medical academic center has come forward to try.
2:13:30 – vaccine centers have been closed for months (due to no more traffic)
2:13:45 – an unofficial survey on Twitter went out asking if anyone knew someone who had died of the vaccines, and it came back 12%
2:14 – the same exact time the vaccines rolled out, the Trusted News Initiative started between news corps and all social media saying they will ensure legitimate concerns about the vaccines are heard while misinformation is snuffed out. It was a coordinated effort to stop any information that would promote vaccine hesitancy.
2:14:30 – what would cause hesitancy? Getting COVID and going to the hospital early for treatment, deferring the vaccine. As would vaccine safety or a press briefing after the rollout stating deaths.
2:16:50 - “this is a giant game of chicken. The people who win are the people who know the truth.”
2:18:45 – on Jan 23 there is a DC march to defeat mandates
2:19:30 – Peter tells us he was sniped at (but no one will come to discuss at a table)
2:19:50 – Steve Kirsch again – begging someone to come on to discuss efficacy
2:20:15 – what narratives would we push to make COVID “be forever.” 1. asymptomatic spread, 2. we can get it over and over 3. get vaccinated every 6 months
2:21:30 – in nursing homes, if someone gets it, the facility is put into lockdown. Imagine the people who've had it already and are technically immune locked down in their twilight years.
2:22 – a Republican Senator is proposing legislation recognizing natural immunity
2:25 – with vaccine you get antibodies from 1 spike protein, with natural immunity it's 27
2:27:20 – there are 37 mutations of the spike protein
2:28 – Dr. McCullough believes Omicron may be an evolutionary mistake
2:29:25 – early treatment is what determines death or hospitalization
2:29:55 – Omicron was “created” in vaccinated individuals
2:31:50 – Rogan is concerned that big Pharma will want to continue to have these very profitable years, pushing new vaccines, and asks if Dr. McCullough shares the concern. He replies that NO PRODUCT is approved in the USA and they are all emergency use authorized.
2:33 - “everyone is entitled to make money but” the government paid for the development costs and pre-purchased the products. $1b of sales in a pharmaceutical product in its first year is considered a “blockbuster.” Half of the cost is usually in development etc. Pfizer vaccine in its first year hit $33 BILLION in sales. No development costs!
2:34 – Fair Balance/Lanmann Act/Truth in Advertising, every product has a risk and benefit. “We can never propose a product to people in America without Fair Balance”
2:35:15 – Dr. McCullough reveals he is the most published person in his field in the world
2:36 – Sanjay Gupta went on Sesame Street and seduced children into getting the vaccine. “Did explain to the children or parents there are FDA warnings of heart inflammation?”
2:38:15 – Gupta (and a CNN individual, unsure) said Ivermectin had “no data” and was a “horse dewormer.” There are 63 studies. They either knew or they should've known.
2:39:30 – Children are 4-6x more likely to get myocarditis from the vaccines than to be hospitalized by COVID. This was undisputed the FDA
2:40:15 – no doctors who are going on TV and advising on COVID have treated a patient with it. In Senate hearing after 2 hours of advising, Ron Johnson was asked and he said “no” he “had not” seen or treated one.
2:41 – a near fraudulent study of COVID says that COVID is the cause of the myocarditis, when it is “cardiac injury with COVID”
2:41:55 – when asked since both COVID and the vaccine have the spike proteins, why do the vaccines cause myocarditis, Dr. McCullough says he believes it is the lipid nanoparticles.
2:42:30 – autopsies of recently vaccinated individuals show the vaccine goes everywhere in the body, brain, heart, lungs etc. and loads heart with more spike protein than with a standard respiratory infection
2:43:45 – “the censoring and misinformation about early treatment of the illness by mainstream media and social media has lead to a large number of deaths, hospitalizations, and permanent disability. There has been no bigger public health crises that the impact of this censorship.”
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