COVID vaccines now causing AIDS(no joke)

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This is an interesting data set highlighting the gradual worsening of the immune system after covid vaccines, I will paste it all below because this site may get taken down, it’s becoming a good source of information on covid.
We know already about the continued fraudulent use of PCR tests, the vaccinated if immunity continues to decline won’t be able to fight off basic colds soon, a new variant will be blamed and the same PCR standard used.
This may explain why they are desperate for 100% to be vaccinated

The covid cult are becoming more South Park like by the day, they are super passionate about giving themselves AIDS, the MSM media will spin this by saying everyone was having unprotected anal sex at the vaccine centers, its all gay people’s fault again will be the narrative, gays are everywhere at vaccine centers, even in the bushes.

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Latest UK PHE Vaccine Surveillance Report figures on Covid -19 cases show that doubly vaccinated 40-79 year olds have lost 44% of their immune system capability. Their immune systems are deteriorating at around 5% per week (between 3.8% and 9.1%).

If this continues then 30-59 year olds will have zero Covid/viral defence (and perhaps a form of acquired immunodeficiency syndrome) by Christmas and all double vaccinated people over 30 will have completely lost the part of their immune system that tackles Covid-19 by January next year.


By a concerned reader

The 5 Public Health England (PHE) tables below from their excellent Vaccine Surveillance Report of all fully genome sequenced delta cases, separated by 5 weeks, clearly show the progressive damage that the vaccines are doing to the immune system’s response. PHE have done so much great work and the picture is very clear.

Here is the weekly decline in doubly vaccinated immune system performance compared to unvaxxed people. Vaccine efficacy is measured using Pfizer’s vaccine effectiveness formula…
(Unvaxxed case rate – Vaxxed case rate)/the Larger of Unvaxxed or Vaxxed case rate – We are using the ratio of vaxxed to unvaxxed case numbers to determine vaccine efficiency just as Pfizer itself does.

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A Vaccine efficacy of 50% means that doubly vaxxed people are 50% more protected from Covid than unvaxxed people. It means that the delta case rate in the vaxxed is half the delta case rate in the unvaxxed.
A Vaccine efficacy of -50% means that unvaxxed people are 50% more protected from Covid than doubly vaxxed people. It means that the delta case rate in the vaxxed is double the delta case rate in the unvaxxed.
A Vaccine efficacy of 0% means that doubly vaccinated people are 0% more protected from Covid than unvaxxed people. It means that the delta case rate in the vaxxed equals the delta case rate in the unvaxxed. It means the vaccines have lost all their effectiveness.
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Everybody over 30 will have lost 100% of their entire immune capability (certainly for Covid and most likely for viruses and certain cancers – following the evidence from Cole Diagnostics in Idaho and Dr Nathan Thompson) within 16 weeks.
Doubly vaccinated 30-59 year olds will have lost it by Christmas. These people will then have no immune defence to Covid at all. The question then becomes how much of the immune system is involved in defending against Covid? The worst case scenario is that they effectively have full blown AIDS and destroy the NHS.
Unless a cure is found quickly they may well die (as occurred at the start of the AIDS epidemic).

These immune system degradations could be caused by ADE (Antibody Dependent Enhancement – where the vaccine induced antibodies start working in reverse) and be specific to Covid, or could be more general and result in a form of vaccine mediated AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome). The fact that the 3rd Jabs worked in Israel (for a short period of time before the 4th jabs were proposed) means that vaccine antibodies do still have a protective effect immediately after vaccination. So that rules out ADE.
The falling efficacy of the vaccines does not asymptotically approach zero (which would mean that vaccines merely lose effectiveness over time). It goes straight through zero and then goes dangerously negative (which means the vaccines become toxic to the immune system). Then it goes more negative in a linear manner week on week. If this continues then the vaccines will completely destroy the part of your immune system which deals with Covid by the end of January.
The vaccine booster shots have to be the same as the vaccines themselves, because it takes forever to do clinical trials and get approval for something different. So if you take a booster shot, these figures show that you are giving yourself an even faster progressive form of AIDS (after an initial few months of effectiveness). The risk benefit analysis for these vaccines has now become a risk detriment analysis for everyone over 30.
Table 2. COVID-19 cases by vaccination status…
Cases reported by specimen date between week 32 and week 35 2021 – https://assets.publishing.service.g...465/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_36.pdf
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Cases reported by specimen date between week 33 and week 36 2021 – https://assets.publishing.service.g.../Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_37_v2.pdf
image-155.png

Cases reported by specimen date between week 34 and week 37 2021 – https://assets.publishing.service.g...992/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_38.pdf
image-154.png

Cases reported by specimen date between week 35 and week 38 2021 https://assets.publishing.service.g...238/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_39.pdf
image-156.png

Cases reported by specimen date between week 36 and week 39 2021 https://assets.publishing.service.g...849/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_40.pdf
image-157.png

Cases reported by specimen date between week 37 and week 40 2021 https://assets.publishing.service.g...25358/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-41.pdf
image-159.png

Pfizer originally claimed a 95% efficiency for their vaccine (calculated as in the boost or degradation column above). The figures above indicate that, their figures may well have been correct immediately after vaccination (the younger age groups have had the vaccine for the shortest time). But the figures above also show that the vaccines do NOT merely lose efficiency over time down to zero efficiency. They progressively damage the immune system until a negative efficiency is realised. They presently leave anybody over 30 in a worse position than they were before vaccination For more see here.
 

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Some of the legitimate immunologist said early on that the jab would compromise the immune system. So some that said it would happen in 6 months to two years were warning people. And they were right!
 
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Some of the legitimate immunologist said early on that the jab would compromise the immune system. So some that said it would happen in 6 months to two years were warning people. And they were right!
Yep, nobody wants to believe they now have AIDS, the dissonance will kick in, they wont believe it even when dying from a cold, they would rather a narrative of a new strain of covid blamed on the unvaccinated that die of AIDS such is the stigma, the stigma created again by governments and media, Fauci intimately involved with the AIDS narrative.
 

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Here is the weekly decline in doubly vaccinated immune system performance compared to unvaxxed people. Vaccine efficacy is measured using Pfizer’s vaccine effectiveness formula…
(Unvaxxed case rate – Vaxxed case rate)/the Larger of Unvaxxed or Vaxxed case rate – We are using the ratio of vaxxed to unvaxxed case numbers to determine vaccine efficiency just as Pfizer itself does.
How does this show the decline of anyone's immune system? Especially if they are just relying on Covid "case numbers," which are essentially meaningless.
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A Vaccine efficacy of 50% means that doubly vaxxed people are 50% more protected from Covid than unvaxxed people. It means that the delta case rate in the vaxxed is half the delta case rate in the unvaxxed.
A Vaccine efficacy of -50% means that unvaxxed people are 50% more protected from Covid than doubly vaxxed people. It means that the delta case rate in the vaxxed is double the delta case rate in the unvaxxed.
A Vaccine efficacy of 0% means that doubly vaccinated people are 0% more protected from Covid than unvaxxed people. It means that the delta case rate in the vaxxed equals the delta case rate in the unvaxxed. It means the vaccines have lost all their effectiveness.
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Everybody over 30 will have lost 100% of their entire immune capability (certainly for Covid and most likely for viruses and certain cancers – following the evidence from Cole Diagnostics in Idaho and Dr Nathan Thompson) within 16 weeks.
Isn't this wild speculation based on problematic data? Even if Covid Cases represented an actual ailment, like a cold, flu, or pneumonia, how can you extrapolate that to cancer?
 

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This is an interesting data set highlighting the gradual worsening of the immune system after covid vaccines, I will paste it all below because this site may get taken down, it’s becoming a good source of information on covid.
We know already about the continued fraudulent use of PCR tests, the vaccinated if immunity continues to decline won’t be able to fight off basic colds soon, a new variant will be blamed and the same PCR standard used.
This may explain why they are desperate for 100% to be vaccinated

The covid cult are becoming more South Park like by the day, they are super passionate about giving themselves AIDS, the MSM media will spin this by saying everyone was having unprotected anal sex at the vaccine centers, its all gay people’s fault again will be the narrative, gays are everywhere at vaccine centers, even in the bushes.

@haidut


Latest UK PHE Vaccine Surveillance Report figures on Covid -19 cases show that doubly vaccinated 40-79 year olds have lost 44% of their immune system capability. Their immune systems are deteriorating at around 5% per week (between 3.8% and 9.1%).

If this continues then 30-59 year olds will have zero Covid/viral defence (and perhaps a form of acquired immunodeficiency syndrome) by Christmas and all double vaccinated people over 30 will have completely lost the part of their immune system that tackles Covid-19 by January next year.


By a concerned reader

The 5 Public Health England (PHE) tables below from their excellent Vaccine Surveillance Report of all fully genome sequenced delta cases, separated by 5 weeks, clearly show the progressive damage that the vaccines are doing to the immune system’s response. PHE have done so much great work and the picture is very clear.

Here is the weekly decline in doubly vaccinated immune system performance compared to unvaxxed people. Vaccine efficacy is measured using Pfizer’s vaccine effectiveness formula…
(Unvaxxed case rate – Vaxxed case rate)/the Larger of Unvaxxed or Vaxxed case rate – We are using the ratio of vaxxed to unvaxxed case numbers to determine vaccine efficiency just as Pfizer itself does.

image-150.png

A Vaccine efficacy of 50% means that doubly vaxxed people are 50% more protected from Covid than unvaxxed people. It means that the delta case rate in the vaxxed is half the delta case rate in the unvaxxed.
A Vaccine efficacy of -50% means that unvaxxed people are 50% more protected from Covid than doubly vaxxed people. It means that the delta case rate in the vaxxed is double the delta case rate in the unvaxxed.
A Vaccine efficacy of 0% means that doubly vaccinated people are 0% more protected from Covid than unvaxxed people. It means that the delta case rate in the vaxxed equals the delta case rate in the unvaxxed. It means the vaccines have lost all their effectiveness.
image-151.png

Everybody over 30 will have lost 100% of their entire immune capability (certainly for Covid and most likely for viruses and certain cancers – following the evidence from Cole Diagnostics in Idaho and Dr Nathan Thompson) within 16 weeks.
Doubly vaccinated 30-59 year olds will have lost it by Christmas. These people will then have no immune defence to Covid at all. The question then becomes how much of the immune system is involved in defending against Covid? The worst case scenario is that they effectively have full blown AIDS and destroy the NHS.
Unless a cure is found quickly they may well die (as occurred at the start of the AIDS epidemic).

These immune system degradations could be caused by ADE (Antibody Dependent Enhancement – where the vaccine induced antibodies start working in reverse) and be specific to Covid, or could be more general and result in a form of vaccine mediated AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome). The fact that the 3rd Jabs worked in Israel (for a short period of time before the 4th jabs were proposed) means that vaccine antibodies do still have a protective effect immediately after vaccination. So that rules out ADE.
The falling efficacy of the vaccines does not asymptotically approach zero (which would mean that vaccines merely lose effectiveness over time). It goes straight through zero and then goes dangerously negative (which means the vaccines become toxic to the immune system). Then it goes more negative in a linear manner week on week. If this continues then the vaccines will completely destroy the part of your immune system which deals with Covid by the end of January.
The vaccine booster shots have to be the same as the vaccines themselves, because it takes forever to do clinical trials and get approval for something different. So if you take a booster shot, these figures show that you are giving yourself an even faster progressive form of AIDS (after an initial few months of effectiveness). The risk benefit analysis for these vaccines has now become a risk detriment analysis for everyone over 30.
Table 2. COVID-19 cases by vaccination status…
Cases reported by specimen date between week 32 and week 35 2021 – https://assets.publishing.service.g...465/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_36.pdf
image-152.png

Cases reported by specimen date between week 33 and week 36 2021 – https://assets.publishing.service.g.../Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_37_v2.pdf
image-155.png

Cases reported by specimen date between week 34 and week 37 2021 – https://assets.publishing.service.g...992/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_38.pdf
image-154.png

Cases reported by specimen date between week 35 and week 38 2021 https://assets.publishing.service.g...238/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_39.pdf
image-156.png

Cases reported by specimen date between week 36 and week 39 2021 https://assets.publishing.service.g...849/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_40.pdf
image-157.png

Cases reported by specimen date between week 37 and week 40 2021 https://assets.publishing.service.g...25358/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-41.pdf
image-159.png

Pfizer originally claimed a 95% efficiency for their vaccine (calculated as in the boost or degradation column above). The figures above indicate that, their figures may well have been correct immediately after vaccination (the younger age groups have had the vaccine for the shortest time). But the figures above also show that the vaccines do NOT merely lose efficiency over time down to zero efficiency. They progressively damage the immune system until a negative efficiency is realised. They presently leave anybody over 30 in a worse position than they were before vaccination For more see here.

Wow!
Well, in light of this, I now wonder if the introduction of an HIV protein into the (ostensibly) scrubbed Aussie vaccine was an accident...or an attempt to prepare a cover for something like what your link describes.

If this analysis is true, then we should know soon enough. By end of the year it may be a very "Dark Winter" indeed, as Joe Biden warned (promised?). It will also show if the quote (falsely) attributed to Luc Montagnier that "all vaxxed will die within 2 years and nothing can be done for them" was overzealous or...spot on.
 

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This warrants some investigation, please do not get carried away just yet. The other tables in this report show fewer deaths and hospitalizations amongst the vaccinated, but higher case rates.

There is no description for how the data is gathered for Table 2 or any explanation in the report itself, is there supplementary information elsewhere?

According to the report vaccinated individuals will test positive in the Roche S antibody test, I wonder if the results in Table 2 are being skewed by this and other tests.

A better metric would be determining overall mortality for vaccinated vs unvaccinated by age/sex group, anyone have such data?
 

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This is an interesting data set highlighting the gradual worsening of the immune system after covid vaccines, I will paste it all below because this site may get taken down, it’s becoming a good source of information on covid.
We know already about the continued fraudulent use of PCR tests, the vaccinated if immunity continues to decline won’t be able to fight off basic colds soon, a new variant will be blamed and the same PCR standard used.
This may explain why they are desperate for 100% to be vaccinated

The covid cult are becoming more South Park like by the day, they are super passionate about giving themselves AIDS, the MSM media will spin this by saying everyone was having unprotected anal sex at the vaccine centers, its all gay people’s fault again will be the narrative, gays are everywhere at vaccine centers, even in the bushes.

@haidut


Latest UK PHE Vaccine Surveillance Report figures on Covid -19 cases show that doubly vaccinated 40-79 year olds have lost 44% of their immune system capability. Their immune systems are deteriorating at around 5% per week (between 3.8% and 9.1%).

If this continues then 30-59 year olds will have zero Covid/viral defence (and perhaps a form of acquired immunodeficiency syndrome) by Christmas and all double vaccinated people over 30 will have completely lost the part of their immune system that tackles Covid-19 by January next year.


By a concerned reader

The 5 Public Health England (PHE) tables below from their excellent Vaccine Surveillance Report of all fully genome sequenced delta cases, separated by 5 weeks, clearly show the progressive damage that the vaccines are doing to the immune system’s response. PHE have done so much great work and the picture is very clear.

Here is the weekly decline in doubly vaccinated immune system performance compared to unvaxxed people. Vaccine efficacy is measured using Pfizer’s vaccine effectiveness formula…
(Unvaxxed case rate – Vaxxed case rate)/the Larger of Unvaxxed or Vaxxed case rate – We are using the ratio of vaxxed to unvaxxed case numbers to determine vaccine efficiency just as Pfizer itself does.

image-150.png

A Vaccine efficacy of 50% means that doubly vaxxed people are 50% more protected from Covid than unvaxxed people. It means that the delta case rate in the vaxxed is half the delta case rate in the unvaxxed.
A Vaccine efficacy of -50% means that unvaxxed people are 50% more protected from Covid than doubly vaxxed people. It means that the delta case rate in the vaxxed is double the delta case rate in the unvaxxed.
A Vaccine efficacy of 0% means that doubly vaccinated people are 0% more protected from Covid than unvaxxed people. It means that the delta case rate in the vaxxed equals the delta case rate in the unvaxxed. It means the vaccines have lost all their effectiveness.
image-151.png

Everybody over 30 will have lost 100% of their entire immune capability (certainly for Covid and most likely for viruses and certain cancers – following the evidence from Cole Diagnostics in Idaho and Dr Nathan Thompson) within 16 weeks.
Doubly vaccinated 30-59 year olds will have lost it by Christmas. These people will then have no immune defence to Covid at all. The question then becomes how much of the immune system is involved in defending against Covid? The worst case scenario is that they effectively have full blown AIDS and destroy the NHS.
Unless a cure is found quickly they may well die (as occurred at the start of the AIDS epidemic).

These immune system degradations could be caused by ADE (Antibody Dependent Enhancement – where the vaccine induced antibodies start working in reverse) and be specific to Covid, or could be more general and result in a form of vaccine mediated AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome). The fact that the 3rd Jabs worked in Israel (for a short period of time before the 4th jabs were proposed) means that vaccine antibodies do still have a protective effect immediately after vaccination. So that rules out ADE.
The falling efficacy of the vaccines does not asymptotically approach zero (which would mean that vaccines merely lose effectiveness over time). It goes straight through zero and then goes dangerously negative (which means the vaccines become toxic to the immune system). Then it goes more negative in a linear manner week on week. If this continues then the vaccines will completely destroy the part of your immune system which deals with Covid by the end of January.
The vaccine booster shots have to be the same as the vaccines themselves, because it takes forever to do clinical trials and get approval for something different. So if you take a booster shot, these figures show that you are giving yourself an even faster progressive form of AIDS (after an initial few months of effectiveness). The risk benefit analysis for these vaccines has now become a risk detriment analysis for everyone over 30.
Table 2. COVID-19 cases by vaccination status…
Cases reported by specimen date between week 32 and week 35 2021 – https://assets.publishing.service.g...465/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_36.pdf
image-152.png

Cases reported by specimen date between week 33 and week 36 2021 – https://assets.publishing.service.g.../Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_37_v2.pdf
image-155.png

Cases reported by specimen date between week 34 and week 37 2021 – https://assets.publishing.service.g...992/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_38.pdf
image-154.png

Cases reported by specimen date between week 35 and week 38 2021 https://assets.publishing.service.g...238/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_39.pdf
image-156.png

Cases reported by specimen date between week 36 and week 39 2021 https://assets.publishing.service.g...849/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_40.pdf
image-157.png

Cases reported by specimen date between week 37 and week 40 2021 https://assets.publishing.service.g...25358/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-41.pdf
image-159.png

Pfizer originally claimed a 95% efficiency for their vaccine (calculated as in the boost or degradation column above). The figures above indicate that, their figures may well have been correct immediately after vaccination (the younger age groups have had the vaccine for the shortest time). But the figures above also show that the vaccines do NOT merely lose efficiency over time down to zero efficiency. They progressively damage the immune system until a negative efficiency is realised. They presently leave anybody over 30 in a worse position than they were before vaccination For more see here.
A disturbing piece of information @Drareg, as mentioned by @haidut in his post last December, as well as Proffesor Montignier and many other Doctors that the gene therapies either create an HIV like syndrome, or they create a scenario that weakens the innate immune system to the point where it cannot suppress retroviruses, as has been observed in treated people that develop shingles after gene therapy treatments, the arise of an uptick in autoimmune diseases I presume will be the next blip on the radar.
I have to say that the speed at which these health issues are developing is something that is surprising to me. Generally the timeline for these issues is at a longer and slower pace. This concerns me greatly as the level of treated people within in my circle is almost 100 percent.

I have to wonder now if this is an intent of these gene therapies, are vaccine passports the equivalent of the last meal for the condemned or a modern day version of the yellow star from the last century. It irks me now that what was all hypothetical potential outcomes are now starting to show that they may indeed be a reality.
 

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This warrants some investigation, please do not get carried away just yet. The other tables in this report show fewer deaths and hospitalizations amongst the vaccinated, but higher case rates.

There is no description for how the data is gathered for Table 2 or any explanation in the report itself, is there supplementary information elsewhere?

According to the report vaccinated individuals will test positive in the Roche S antibody test, I wonder if the results in Table 2 are being skewed by this and other tests.

A better metric would be determining overall mortality for vaccinated vs unvaccinated by age/sex group, anyone have such data?

UK gov started reporting COVID-19 cases by vaccination status in Week 36.

With each passing week, significantly more people get infected among the vaccinated vs the unvaccinated.

Clots and myocarditis aside, from the weekly reports it still looks like the vaccine remains highly effective in preventing deaths (by 3x to 10x). Did they just get incredibly lucky? It could have been the other way around - more deaths among the vaccinated.

What could be some possible explanations for the increased infections in the vaccinated? I honestly don't believe everyone will get AIDS by Christmas, as the article suggests.

Could it be that the unvaccinated population primarily consists of people who had the disease and recovered in 2020/early 2021 and that's why they refused the vaccine? They will have better and long lasting immunity than the vaccinated. And the increase of infections among the vaccinated is simply the vaccine efficacy waning off, as it was designed to be from the beginning? Booster shots were part of the initial plan.
 
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This warrants some investigation, please do not get carried away just yet. The other tables in this report show fewer deaths and hospitalizations amongst the vaccinated, but higher case rates.

There is no description for how the data is gathered for Table 2 or any explanation in the report itself, is there supplementary information elsewhere?

According to the report vaccinated individuals will test positive in the Roche S antibody test, I wonder if the results in Table 2 are being skewed by this and other tests.

A better metric would be determining overall mortality for vaccinated vs unvaccinated by age/sex group, anyone have such data?
I agree, we also need to know what intubation procedures are used, is it the same for vaccinated and unvaccinated, we know already a lowe PCR cycle threshold is used for vaccinated lowering the chances of testing positive, this means the data comparisons relative to unvaccinated and vaccinated has a clear bias.
The data is not clear.
 
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Wow!
Well, in light of this, I now wonder if the introduction of an HIV protein into the (ostensibly) scrubbed Aussie vaccine was an accident...or an attempt to prepare a cover for something like what your link describes.

If this analysis is true, then we should know soon enough. By end of the year it may be a very "Dark Winter" indeed, as Joe Biden warned (promised?). It will also show if the quote (falsely) attributed to Luc Montagnier that "all vaxxed will die within 2 years and nothing can be done for them" was overzealous or...spot on.
This is interesting to think about when we consider Fauci‘s involvement with treatments for HIV.
 

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I agree, we also need to know what intubation procedures are used, is it the same for vaccinated and unvaccinated, we know already a lowe PCR cycle threshold is used for vaccinated lowering the chances of testing positive, this means the data comparisons relative to unvaccinated and vaccinated has a clear bias.
The data is not clear.

As far as I know, only the US CDC lowered the threshold count for the vaccinated.

Someone asked Public Health England about it, and this was their reply:


They did not give a specific answer in regards to the vaccinated. There seems to be multiple test kids, multiple laboratories, and each test manufacturer has specific cycle threshold recommendation.
 

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As far as I know, only the US CDC lowered the threshold count for the vaccinated.

Someone asked Public Health England about it, and this was their reply:


They did not give a specific answer in regards to the vaccinated. There seems to be multiple test kids, multiple laboratories, and each test manufacturer has specific cycle threshold recommendation.
The real question is how do they determine whether the virus they have detected is active, dead, or just broken up pieces of the dead virus. This would be the real question as to whether that person, has, did have, or is recovering from infection.
The next question would be how do they treat the disease if the person has tested positive for the virus in an early detection scenario?
 

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This study, if I am reading it correctly, is rather concerning, as I took Azithromycin for a few days to knock out a throat infection from Covid (which I am now fully recovered last month). It mentions one can get "Kaposi’s sarcoma-associated herpesvirus (KSHV)" (see below longer quote) from these drugs. Isn't Kaposi’s sarcoma strongly connected to AIDs? Mentions herpes below, which I've never had.

The study says that some alternative treatment drugs for covid, including Azithromycin, Chloroquine diphosphate, Hydroxychloroquine sulfate, Nafamostat mesylate, Remdesivir, and Tocilizumab, and "SARS-CoV-2 encoded proteins and some currently used anti-COVID-19 drugs are able to induce lytic reactivation of Kaposi’s sarcoma-associated herpesvirus (KSHV), one of major human oncogenic viruses, through manipulation of intracellular signaling pathways. Our data indicate that those KSHV + patients especially in endemic areas exposure to COVID-19 or undergoing the treatment may have increased risks to develop virus-associated cancers, even after they have fully recovered from COVID-19."

SARS-CoV-2 proteins and anti-COVID-19 drugs induce lytic reactivation of an oncogenic virus
 

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This study, if I am reading it correctly, is rather concerning, as I took Azithromycin for a few days to knock out a throat infection from Covid (which I am now fully recovered last month). It mentions one can get "Kaposi’s sarcoma-associated herpesvirus (KSHV)" (see below longer quote) from these drugs. Isn't Kaposi’s sarcoma strongly connected to AIDs? Mentions herpes below, which I've never had.
Kaposi's Sarcoma is one of the 30+ AIDS defining illnesses. In fact, with Pneumocitis Pneumonia, it was one of the original two.


But why are you that concerned with that study? It's an in vitro study. Nothing about it suggests that any of those drugs can actually trigger Kaposi's Sarcoma in a human, or any other animal.
 

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Kaposi's Sarcoma is one of the 30+ AIDS defining illnesses. In fact, with Pneumocitis Pneumonia, it was one of the original two.


But why are you that concerned with that study? It's an in vitro study. Nothing about it suggests that any of those drugs can actually trigger Kaposi's Sarcoma in a human, or any other animal.
Thanks for clarification about study type.
 
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