Record High Number Of People Are Not Having Sex, The Young Lead The Pack

[Jing]

Never claimed otherwise. Just saying a size isn't a requirement. Nobody is arguing it doesn't help tho.

That's my point the size helps during penetration forget foreplay I'm talking penetration .. if you have two identical men same personality same income etc. But one has smaller than average penis the other average or bigger than average I guarantee the girl would choose the average or bigger than average one.

What lots of men hate is they can be good at foreplay but then once they go to use their penis it just doesn't do much.

 

[opethfeldt]

Penis size does play a big part in pleasure during penetration, imagine the man laying down doing nothing the girl in reverse cowgirl taking control doing all the movements, are you honestly saying the man with 3 inch penis and let's say 3 inch girth is going to provide more pleasure than the man with 6 inch with 5 girth?

Obviously not. However, I'm just saying that penis size is not the only factor in a woman's pleasure. None of this matters if the guy doesn't have the rock solid confidence in the face of not being gifted "down there". It's definitely a possible explanation for why men are having less sex these days. Less androgens=smaller penis and also more insecurity.

 

[Cirion]

"All things being equal otherwise, size matters" OK sure, but that wasn't the original argument, and this is such an obvious statement I didn't think it needed to be said lol. Or I just misunderstood the original argument. I thought the original argument was "size is a requirement to even get any action and matters above all other factors" essentially.

 

[Jing]

Obviously not. However, I'm just saying that penis size is not the only factor in a woman's pleasure. None of this matters if the guy doesn't have the rock solid confidence in the face of not being gifted "down there". It's definitely a possible explanation for why men are having less sex these days. Less androgens=smaller penis and also more insecurity.

Even if a man is confident penetration still won't be good for a woman if the man has a small penis... A man can have no confidence have average or bigger than average and give a woman amazing penetration.

 

[baccheion]

Micro penis is 2.8 inches or less and hormones don't work for everyone with it only if you have it because of androgen deficiency and mega dose d3 I don't think would actually work it could also be dangerous.

I took large amounts of D3 for over a year. Yes, TRT would primarily be for those with a smaller size due to deficiency. On the other hand, can't live if you don't try.

 

[Jing]

"All things being equal otherwise, size matters" OK sure, but that wasn't the original argument, and this is such an obvious statement I didn't think it needed to be said lol. Or I just misunderstood the original argument. I thought the original argument was "size is a requirement to even get any action and matters above all other factors" essentially.

No my argument was that lots of men don't bother trying because they can't please a woman with their penis, they don't want to have to compensate with their fingers or tounge. They want to be able to give a woman amazing penetration.

 

[Jing]

I took large amounts of D3 for over a year. Yes, TRT would primarily be for those with a smaller size due to deficiency. On the other hand, can't live if you don't try.

It's also the cost 50,000iu is expensive.

 

[lampofred]

I think endotoxin might play a large role in small penis size by inhibiting full blood flow, and as a result, people who have had gut issues (hair loss, eye bags, poor digestion, etc.) for much of their lives might think they have a smaller penis than they actually do. They never actually experienced a full erection, but they think erectile dysfunction is an all-or-nothing thing, so they might not realize they have some partial ED going on. Biologically speaking, I highly doubt that nature would design any adult males in good health to have penises too small to give satisfaction...

 

[baccheion]

It's also the cost 50,000iu is expensive.

A 360-count bottle from Healthy Origins cost $14-16. 2-3 bottles would last long enough. Add 100 mcg/day MK-7 and 300 mg 2x/day elemental from magnesium oil spray (or lotion). Not recommending it blindly be done, but it's reasonably priced.

 

[JDreamer]

While its effects on hormones are the same as that of regular sex, binging on porn certainly worsens dopaminergic function.

To this day I still worry about the damage I caused during the very depressed phase I went thru in high school thru the early part of college. I definitely abused porn/fapping in that time frame.

 

[Cirion]

To this day I still worry about the damage I caused during the very depressed phase I went thru in high school thru the early part of college. I definitely abused porn/fapping in that time frame.

Nothing you can't recover from. Recovery from hypo/weak androgens is a b*** if it started at an early age I can personally attest to though. I've been hypo 95% of my life and only briefly recovered once, but because I HAVE recovered once, I know it's possible to do again, albeit difficult. People like us do have to put in about 10x the effort as average joes though. EVERYTHING has to be on point or I don't get better and things get worse instead.

 

[ecstatichamster]

I have to mostly agree with GreekDemiGod here.

Yes, porn is more accessible and stimulating than ever, but sex will always be better than porn. The average guy does not have enough game to get with the woman of their choice (ie someone they find attractive enough) and the average guy generally doesn't want to settle for someone they find less than attractive (exceptions apply of course, like if they don't have to put much or any effort into it).

My personal opinion in Japan it is because they have an insane workaholic culture even worse than the USA. The guys there have such work burnout they have zero energy or sexual drive to pursue actual women so yeah, they have to resort to porn. I remember them doing a study one time of some Japanese professionals and the verdict was they prefer sleep over sex -- for the very reason they are sleep deprived. If all you want to do is sleep after work of course you won't be having much or any sex. So of course, it makes sense.

Let's also not forget that the average libido is probably lower than it has ever been, which is what drives people to pursue women in the first place, and this is due to metabolisms and androgens being at record low numbers in this generation.

In Japan the young people often aren’t salarymen and don’t work the crazy hours of the older generation.

What people here are missing is that the brain wires to porn. A man who hasn’t wired to real sex wires to porn first and after that it can be very difficult to wire to real sex.

 

[Gone Peating]

I think that social media (mostly Instagram) has made one's social status exponentially more important than it used to be.

Status among males has always been a huge determinant of attractiveness in the eyes of women (not more than looks itself but nevertheless very important). Take an average guy and make him famous (Ed Sheeran) and see how women's perception of his attractiveness changes. For men, female status or fame really doesn't have much effect: men are as attracted to a famous singer/actress as they would have been if she wasn't. We are almost entirely visual (and personality/vibe) when it comes to finding women attractive.

Before social media, you were considered a normal/cool guy as long as you left your basement and had some kind of a friend group/social circle/ thing or hobby.

Nowadays, the average male is actually considered below average in the mind of women. Instagram has instilled an all or nothing mentality/preference in women's minds. A normal guy with normal looks, a normal friend group, and a normal amount of followers on Instagram is seen now as a negative. That quantified nature of averageness that is on full display now is actually a big turnoff. Before our social lives were so visible to the point that you can determine everything about a person (at least in the average person today's mind) just by pulling your phone out of your pocket has enabled women to be a lot more choosy. They have so many more options than they used to, and women's preferences are much more selective than men's - they do not like to "settle".

I know this is probably difficult for the older generations to understand. But I think the younger generations know what I am talking about. It's hard for older people to understand because it truly is a strange phenomenon.

 

[Scenes]

I think endotoxin might play a large role in small penis size by inhibiting full blood flow, and as a result, people who have had gut issues (hair loss, eye bags, poor digestion, etc.) for much of their lives might think they have a smaller penis than they actually do. They never actually experienced a full erection, but they think erectile dysfunction is an all-or-nothing thing, so they might not realize they have some partial ED going on. Biologically speaking, I highly doubt that nature would design any adult males in good health to have penises too small to give satisfaction...

Agree with this on endotoxin...there’s definitely a connection. Activated charcoal made a significant difference to erection quality, flaccid hang and fullness when I used to take it.

 

[ecstatichamster]

Ridiculous.

Penis size doesn’t matter to a woman’s pleasure. Most nerve endings are in the first 1/4 inch of her vaginal opening and her clit isn’t stimulated by penetration regardless.

And men who worry about a woman’s pleasure are freezing themselves into a bad place. I say, don’t give a ***t about her, just have fun and enjoy. Women love a guy who does this because it takes the pressure off.

 

[Cirion]

Ridiculous.

Penis size doesn’t matter to a woman’s pleasure. Most nerve endings are in the first 1/4 inch of her vaginal opening and her clit isn’t stimulated by penetration regardless.

And men who worry about a woman’s pleasure are freezing themselves into a bad place. I say, don’t give a ***t about her, just have fun and enjoy. Women love a guy who does this because it takes the pressure off.

Let's also not forget that probably 90% of the pleasure for a woman is defined before intercourse even begins. You can't just stuff it in a woman and have her enjoy it even if it is large. One has to build that tension beforehand.

 

[Cirion]

In Japan the young people often aren’t salarymen and don’t work the crazy hours of the older generation.

What people here are missing is that the brain wires to porn. A man who hasn’t wired to real sex wires to porn first and after that it can be very difficult to wire to real sex.

I'm not at all disagreeing about the dangers of porn. I do my best myself to follow noporn/nofap (I find it difficult to do when metabolic rate is low though, I definitely get "irresistible urges" on particularly hypothyroid days).

But clearly something in Japan is different than USA, what is it, if it isn't that Japanese are more hardcore workers than USA?

 

[Gone Peating]

Ridiculous.

Penis size doesn’t matter to a woman’s pleasure. Most nerve endings are in the first 1/4 inch of her vaginal opening and her clit isn’t stimulated by penetration regardless.

And men who worry about a woman’s pleasure are freezing themselves into a bad place. I say, don’t give a ***t about her, just have fun and enjoy. Women love a guy who does this because it takes the pressure off.

Very true, men in my generation have had it beaten into their heads through music, movies and all media that how women feel about them is the most important thing in the world. It obviously causes them (and women) a lot of grief and confusion

 

[Gone Peating]

I'm not at all disagreeing about the dangers of porn. I do my best myself to follow noporn/nofap (I find it difficult to do when metabolic rate is low though, I definitely get "irresistible urges" on particularly hypothyroid days).

But clearly something in Japan is different than USA, what is it, if it isn't that Japanese are more hardcore workers than USA?

The Japanese are one of the most micromanaged societies to have every existed ever since WW2.

Their autonomy at both a high governmental level and an individual level have been stripped by the US and the west. Everything that they have done since 1945 has been calculated as having to be beneficial for US. All of their culture built up over thousands of years was replaced with what they have now and what the CIA and western powers want them to have in place

 

[Experienced]

Activated charcoal made a significant difference to erection quality, flaccid hang and fullness when I used to take it.

What do you exactly mean?