Record High Number Of People Are Not Having Sex, The Young Lead The Pack

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What do you exactly mean?

I mean that I started using AC 2 x per day (away from meals) as I was interested in experimenting with reducing endotoxins. The two main benefits were improved digestion and flaccid hang/fullness. Like noticeably more blood flow to the area even when not aroused. Erections were improved as a result.
 

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I'm addicted to porn. It's hard to go out with a "loaded gun". I guess porn gives a false sense of confidence. Take it away and I feel really insecure. Walking around, I think everyone senses on some subconscious level that I'm a desperate guy.* So people don't respect me and I feel like a b****. I don't know how to face people, how to deal with people. I'm getting more comfortable getting down "in the mud" though. Learning some humility.

*Maybe that's my insecurity talking though, because it's more than that. It's also hard because if I go out with a "loaded gun", men are more confrontational with me. And that in itself is hard to ******* deal with.

Maybe there's a happy medium. Maybe I can live a more challenging life and turn up the heat on myself by just PMOing less, and learn how to deal with that ***t. Because it must be worth it.
 

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Ridiculous.

Penis size doesn’t matter to a woman’s pleasure. Most nerve endings are in the first 1/4 inch of her vaginal opening and her clit isn’t stimulated by penetration regardless.

And men who worry about a woman’s pleasure are freezing themselves into a bad place. I say, don’t give a ***t about her, just have fun and enjoy. Women love a guy who does this because it takes the pressure off.
Clearly not true lmao, my penis is 6 inches long, I've tested this just to see if my girl feels a difference, I put the head in she can feel it put more in she can feel it deeper with more pleasure put it all in she can feel it more with more pleasure so your 1/4 doesn't matter a woman can feel pleasure deep in to her vagina, loads nearly every woman I have spoke to about this say they love deep penetration they say a small penis just doesn't get deep enough, women have lied to you and you have just blindly believed them lol, for a good sex experience a woman would want good foreplay and good penetration, if you are lacking in one of these she isn't fully satisfied. My girl gets annoyed it I don't put it all in, so if I had let's say 3 inch penis she would not be happy at all.

If my girl is in control she likes to put it all in because it feels better for her, she doesn't just use 1/4 of my penis lmao. And then it's not just about length girth too.

I don't know what women you are getting with but women do care about pleasure, if you only have sex for you and don't pleasure the woman they are just going to think you are selfish, if they don't care about you doing nothing to them you are doing it wrong lol, they don't even want you trying because you can't do anything good, you are not going to keep a girl if all you care about is yourself.

You are either someone who has a big penis so you can pleasure your girl easily during penetration so you believe a small penis is the same you don't get that it's a problem because you have no problem with your size, or you have a small penis and you just believe what women tell you without question. Or you can't accept it is a problem because you can always just do foreplay lol
 
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Let's also not forget that probably 90% of the pleasure for a woman is defined before intercourse even begins. You can't just stuff it in a woman and have her enjoy it even if it is large. One has to build that tension beforehand.
So you build up all the tension for what to not give her good penetration? You honestly think a woman is happy about that? You do know lots of women also say it's a huge turn off when a man has a small penis ? How are you suppose to properly pleasure a woman when she's not into it? I've had women say they feel like they are with a child lmao just find some honest women and ask them. Women will lie lots about this stuff and say size doesn't matter blah blah because they don't want to be called sluts.
 
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It would be good for some women to give their honest opinion on this, I just want to state I'm not saying a man with a small penis can't pleasure a woman or get a woman and keep her im just saying with all things equal, if the woman is the one in control in say reverse cowgirl or any position where the man does nothing but lay there so he is basically a dildo lol she is going to get more pleasure from a big penis now when I say big I don't mean monster size I'll just say something like 7x6 maybe even abit smaller, but compare that to 4x3 or compare the 4x3 to 6x5. Unless the woman has some medical condition I bet she would enjoy the bigger penis better.
 

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It's ridiculous (and suspicious...) to say porn is the only reason. Imagine a world with handsome, healthy men and beautiful, healthy women. You think porn would stop them from having sex?

Men are becoming more feminine (soy boys), women are becoming more masculine (angry SJW's with short hair). Why would most people be interested in sex these days is the real question.

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While health plays a big factor here, a lot of it has to do with online dating. If you're Chad or Tyrone it is easy to get a lot of matches and access to sexual experiences, while for the average dude it isn't. There have been studies/surveys, where women (regardless of their own sexual marketplace value) rated 80% of men as unattractive. Online dating/instagram etc. turned the local sexual marketplace into a global sexual marketplace, where "regular people" now have to compete with "high value people" from all around the world. So in essence, an increasing quantity of women have sex with a decreasing quantity of men.
 

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While health plays a big factor here, a lot of it has to do with online dating. If you're Chad or Tyrone it is easy to get a lot of matches and access to sexual experiences, while for the average dude it isn't. There have been studies/surveys, where women (regardless of their own sexual marketplace value) rated 80% of men as unattractive. Online dating/instagram etc. turned the local sexual marketplace into a global sexual marketplace, where "regular people" now have to compete with "high value people" from all around the world. So in essence, an increasing quantity of women have sex with a decreasing quantity of men.
The rise in the percentage of males not having sex started in ~2008, many years before Tinder/online-dating became popular. Maybe it has more to do with the recession and tending to finances. Tinder certainly didn't help, however, and the skew in desirability is real.

I wonder what happens as women begin to realize their true worth? That is, males swipe right about 48% of the time. 48% is about the number of people at least not unattractive and is less than the 80% desiring the top 20%. In addition, many of the likes women receive are from bots or blind swiping (ie, saying yes to everyone).

I suppose they "resign themselves" to "lesser", as they can't release their delusions and are now attached to a false reality. More future headache for unsuspecting/unaware males, even if attractive (attractive does not equal hot/perfection, eh?). Many women online are idealists, the most common being INFP and INFJ.

There may be some support in it all for the notion that women would rather share one alpha/high-status than settle with OK (ie, the annoying stereotypical high school-level response to cheating and women going right back anyway).

I can't even begin to imagine what goes through their mind when hitting the wall, panicking, and just grabbing onto whoever's there or is a paycheck. It would suck to end up with someone that's "so kind" and has "resigned themselves to" rather than someone appreciative or satisfied.
 
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The rise in the percentage of males not having sex started in ~2008, many years before Tinder/online-dating became popular. Maybe it has more to do with the recession and tending to finances. Tinder certainly didn't help, however, and the skew in desirability is real.

I wonder what happens as women begin to realize their true worth? That is, males swipe right about 48% of the time. 48% is about the number of people at least not unattractive and is less than the 80% desiring the top 20%. In addition, many of the likes women receive are from bots or blind swiping (ie, saying yes to everyone).

I suppose they "resign themselves" to "lesser", as they can't release their delusions and are now attached to a false reality. More future headache for unsuspecting/unaware males, even if attractive (attractive does not equal hot/perfection, eh?). Many women online are idealists, the most common being INFP and INFJ.

There may be some support in it all for the notion that women would rather share one alpha/high-status than settle with OK (ie, the annoying stereotypical high school-level response to cheating and women going right back anyway).

I can't even begin to imagine what goes through their mind when hitting the wall, panicking, and just grabbing onto whoever's there or is a paycheck. It would suck to end up with someone that's "so kind" and has "resigned themselves to" rather than someone appreciative or satisfied.

It had to do with Facebook becoming widespread (and even myspace before it) and texting became universal
 

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As a relatively young person (24) who was in high school when tinder was released and who was in middle school when subjected to the myspace social media experiment, here are some of my thoughts.

I think health is obviously a big issue, but if people are eating whole, non-processed foods, and are exercising regularly, etc. then some of the other contributing factors would be as follows.

Porn. My experience tells me that porn is, in some particular respects, completely disabling and unnatural. I don't believe there is much, if any, value to porn that might way against its obviously major downsides.

Social media. Most people I actually find I like in real life do not use social media, and as people grow older and more mature, I find this number increases.

Tinder. I made a profile on tinder as a relatively attractive female to see what it was like, and whatever the statistics getting thrown out are, the whole thing is much much worse. "guys swipe right 48% of the time, girls only 14% of the time." Absolutely laughable. An attractive girl on tinder will have over 1000 likes in less than a day. In a week, over 5000 guys to choose from for casual sex if she's interested. If not she can't just work the numbers until a very solid LTR prospect develops. The most attractive guy profiles I've used get, at most, 100 right swipes in a day the first day, and it just falls off from there such that in a week they're unlikely to have broken 200 likes.

I still idealize high school tremendously. Every day you see and interact with the same general group of people, and everyone is accounted for and generally accepted and understood, provided they don't do anything absurdly anti-social. Things are fairly well stratified where I went to school too. . I had a lot of sex, more partners than 95% of all of my peers, and they were all attractive. Looking back I was pretty good looking and sociable, so that makes sense.

I had a few close friends that were getting laid a lot, one being an exceptionally masculine looking guy. This guy, broad shoulders, big bones, great facial development, harmonious figure, little over 6'.. CHAD as of a recent conversation has not had sex in 3-4 years. Nothing decidedly wrong with him either, I think its just a lack of familiarity with people brought on by the way society is now structured.
 

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45 years ago a short course of pills basically cleared anything up. Rampant fornication was a ~20 year aberration where antibiotics were fantastically effective against STDs. Well, that's over now. The pills don't work and a roll in the hay can ruin your life. We're basically going back to the historical norm where sexual activity is tied to family formation, which is just prohibitively expensive now for many people.
 

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No tattoos or weird piercings here. I have a very healthy sex drive about 7 months a year when the days are longer.

I just posted in the FB about a vegan who identified as asexual get a sex drive after eating animal protein. I wouldn't blame porn. I blame unhealthy lifestyles.

Yeah, this is a new "identity" to go with the many others. I have a co-worker who is in a relationship with one; they call it "ace" (asexual). I have also had four transgender co-workers in the last few years, in a very small store.
The worldview of all these people (all my coworkers) is warped to match the physiological warping going on, as they have to normalize and name anything, and defend it as natural because they think that is a solution. Everything is just an unchangeable "identity" and the world must adapt to them.
I found this "ace" woman's personality to be repellent as well.
 

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That sounds like me, haha. I have sex once or twice a year usually, nothing this year so far. I don't intentionally do this by design, I just get busy with work and after factoring in all my introverted hobbies and occasional hangouts with my old high school buddies there's really no time left for me to have much of a sex life. I'm cool with it though, it's not one of those things that causes me dissatisfaction or anything. I think the important thing to be aware of is does it bother you. If it bothers you, or if you troubled by it, you should probably make more of an effort to co-mingle with people.
 

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The rise in the percentage of males not having sex started in ~2008, many years before Tinder/online-dating became popular.
except that I started using online dating (okcupid) in 2010 while still in high school. Didn't start actually going out from it until later, but online dating was significant in 2008, and I remember ads and personals as far back as 2004.

Everybody in my HS knew about match.com (and we made fun of it). We all saw those personals that came out on AIM every week. It was absolutely a thing ever since the late 90s, with popularity just growing as time went on.

It's only in the last decade that it became "socially acceptable" to find a date online, simply because so many people have done it now that there can't be any stigma. But if 10% of people were online dating in 2009, that's still a significant number.

Maybe it has more to do with the recession and tending to finances.
Yes, it is multifactorial but the recession is not the main issue. Wealth inequality has been growing rapidly since the 70s for the US. But the incel pattern only started within the last decade or so, and is universal across europe too. It's culture, not wealth.

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except that I started using online dating (okcupid) in 2010 while still in high school. Didn't start actually going out from it until later, but online dating was significant in 2008, and I remember ads and personals as far back as 2004.

Everybody in my HS knew about match.com (and we made fun of it). We all saw those personals that came out on AIM every week. It was absolutely a thing ever since the late 90s, with popularity just growing as time went on.

It's only in the last decade that it became "socially acceptable" to find a date online, simply because so many people have done it now that there can't be any stigma. But if 10% of people were online dating in 2009, that's still a significant number.


Yes, it is multifactorial but the recession is not the main issue. Wealth inequality has been growing rapidly since the 70s for the US. But the incel pattern only started within the last decade or so, and is universal across europe too. It's culture, not wealth.

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I joined OkCupid in 2005. Mainly it was to take a quiz. There was at most a handful of profiles, especially in East Podunk where I was attending college. I remember the marketing push by OkCupid in 2009. Looking at average attractiveness, OkCupid didn't start "taking off" until 2011-2012. Either way, it was well after 2008.

The scene wasn't significant. Match.com was marketed heavily and the women were more attractive. They mainly seemed to be trying to get married, same with eHarmony. The 2000s were marked by dating sites being dominated by people with.. something wrong with them.

Then there was Tinder, founded by OkCupid. Heh.

Dating sites are skewed anyway. Typically, there are 2x as many males compared to women. It could effectively even be 3x or more. Such a skew with a maintained distribution of attractiveness equals a bad deal, even if the male is hot.

For example, a male at the top 20% (20 out of 100) would naturally be paired with a women also at 20% (20 out of 100, as there are roughly the same number of males as females in the world at large). On these sites, he'd end up with a woman that's 20th out of 50. That is, she'd be at the 40% mark.

The top half is generally seen as viable by men. That's 25 out of 50 women if there are 100 men. The top 25 males are enough to gobble them up and swipe dynamics lead to it actually happening. But it's even worse, as all viable women are gone with just the top 20% of males.
 
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I joined OkCupid in 2005. Mainly it was to take a quiz. There was at most a handful of profiles, especially in East Podunk where I was attending college. I remember the marketing push by OkCupid in 2009. Looking at average attractiveness, OkCupid didn't start "taking off" until 2011-2012. Either way, it was well after 2008.

The scene wasn't significant. Match.com was marketed heavily and the women were more attractive. They mainly seemed to be trying to get married, same with eHarmony. The 2000s were marked by dating sites being dominated by people with.. something wrong with them.

Then there was Tinder, founded by OkCupid. Heh.

Dating sites are skewed anyway. Typically, there are 2x as many males compared to women. It could effectively even be 3x or more. Such a skew with a maintained distribution of attractiveness equals a bad deal, even if the male is hot.

For example, a male at the top 20% (20 out of 100) would naturally be paired with a women also at 20% (20 out of 100, as there are roughly the same number of males as females in the world at large). On these sites, he'd end up with a woman that's 20th out of 50. That is, she'd be at the 40% mark.

The top half is generally seen as viable by men. That's 25 out of 50 women if there are 100 men. The top 25 males are enough to gobble them up and swipe dynamics lead to it actually happening. But it's even worse, as all viable women are gone with just the top 20% of males.

for casual sex encounters, it is at best 90/10 for the top 50% women, probably closer to 95/5.

why should they settle for less? they can get whoever they want. I legit know a 4/10 22yo that has ****88 a male model on tinder (then got ghosted needlessly to say)

80/20 is maybe for relationships forming online or offline casual sex happening

the only thing that is still 50/50 is serious relationships forming in a social circle

the average young man does not get regular hookups with an average young woman without having a significant halo (height, frame, big **** reputation, playing in a band or some ***t, social media maxxed, university party imperium; playing high level sports, whatever you can think of)

so basically, young women can just exist and young men can't, if they want to ****

welcome to reality:
Does it annoy you when unattractive guys will try the whole "not looking for anything serious" thing? : FemaleDatingStrategy
 
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for casual sex encounters, it is at best 90/10 for the top 50% women, probably closer to 95/5.

why should they settle for less? they can get whoever they want. I legit know a 4/10 22yo that has ****88 a male model on tinder (then got ghosted needlessly to say)

80/20 is maybe for relationships forming online or offline casual sex happening

the only thing that is still 50/50 is serious relationships forming in a social circle

the average young man does not get regular hookups with an average young woman without having a significant halo (height, frame, big **** reputation, playing in a band or some ***t, social media maxxed, university party imperium; playing high level sports, whatever you can think of)

so basically, young women can just exist and young men can't, if they want to ****

welcome to reality:
Does it annoy you when unattractive guys will try the whole "not looking for anything serious" thing? : FemaleDatingStrategy
Perhaps "unattractive" men should try more personal meetups rather than just immediately resorting to online hookups. Some of the best encounters are those that happen organically, or by accident even, as oppose to the mentality of actually searching or hunting (which may be stressful for some).
 

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An obvious factor is porn use. People won't actively pursue meaningful relationships (or even just short term relationships) when constantly sexually satisfied and emotionally numb.
I wouldn't say I could be sexually satisfied by watching porn, honestly. I think masturbation is just something to take the edge off
 

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