Peat-friendly (or At Least Peat-aware) Doctors?

Catecholamine

Member
Joined
Feb 6, 2017
Messages
22
Hi, I've been Peating for about 4 years now with almost no success. Peat's ideas make a lot more sense than most of the conventional wisdom, but for whatever reason, I'm not getting anywhere on my own.

Does anybody know of a way to find a Peat-aware or Peat-friendly doctor? I'm in Boston, MA, United States, if that helps. (I hope it does, I'm surrounded by doctors.)

Thanks!
 
J

james2388

Guest
You should know Kate Deering, Josh & Jeanne Rubin, and many other Peat Inspired Health coaches..... Don't have any faith in this conventional system, it's naive. All the doctors have their heads up their own asses. Buy the Peat Health Coaches Books. Make a lost of dietary interventions. Start walking. Donate blood. Make sure you sleep good. Etc etc. Simple stuff. Don't run a 1000$ on blood work...
 

orewashin

Member
Joined
Jun 16, 2020
Messages
327
You should know Kate Deering, Josh & Jeanne Rubin, and many other Peat Inspired Health coaches..... Don't have any faith in this conventional system, it's naive. All the doctors have their heads up their own asses. Buy the Peat Health Coaches Books. Make a lost of dietary interventions. Start walking. Donate blood. Make sure you sleep good. Etc etc. Simple stuff. Don't run a 1000$ on blood work...
I have CFS, but no endos I've seen are willing to work with me unless I get on levothyroxine, and they also want to take me off liothyronine. I feel hypothyroid from levothyroxine, but none of them want to acknowledge it. I need to go about it the official way because my insurance is running out in a couple of months, and if I don't get a diagnosis, I'll be left without it. So I need to find someone who can work with me and bring me to euthyroid status with T3 alone so I can verify that I have CFS.
 
J

james2388

Guest
I have CFS, but no endos I've seen are willing to work with me unless I get on levothyroxine, and they also want to take me off liothyronine. I feel hypothyroid from levothyroxine, but none of them want to acknowledge it. I need to go about it the official way because my insurance is running out in a couple of months, and if I don't get a diagnosis, I'll be left without it. So I need to find someone who can work with me and bring me to euthyroid status with T3 alone so I can verify that I have CFS.

Levothyroxine (Synthroid) is a synthetic version of T4, and liothyronine (Cytomel) is a synthetic version of T3. The reason why they make you get on t4 is to bypass TSH signalling, to find out how much t3 you are actually converting from t4. That's step 1. Then you pet you liothyronine to supplement t3 levels. Step 2. If you have no doctor running labs and you jumped on t3 on your own and now you feel hypothyroid without, then what can I say you jumped the gun and the doctors are just following protocol.

You are chasing a diagnosis and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is not really going to offer much, the buck stops at thyroid abnormalities. That's the way things work, you need a diagnosis to continue a rx.

Endo's just put people on medication... You need a thyroid coach, someone to lay everything out clearly of what you need to be doing in regards to diet and simple exercise and there are peat inspired books. I hate to say it but this forum section if a place mainly for biohackers like Haidut and like to share biohacking information.

The approach you need to take is to catch up on some resources, make a list, and follow through and contact some peat inspired health coaches. You are chasing t3 and a diagnosis of CFS. That's simply not a good plan.
 

orewashin

Member
Joined
Jun 16, 2020
Messages
327
Levothyroxine (Synthroid) is a synthetic version of T4, and liothyronine (Cytomel) is a synthetic version of T3. The reason why they make you get on t4 is to bypass TSH signalling, to find out how much t3 you are actually converting from t4. That's step 1. Then you pet you liothyronine to supplement t3 levels. Step 2. If you have no doctor running labs and you jumped on t3 on your own and now you feel hypothyroid without, then what can I say you jumped the gun and the doctors are just following protocol.

You are chasing a diagnosis and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is not really going to offer much, the buck stops at thyroid abnormalities. That's the way things work, you need a diagnosis to continue a rx.

Endo's just put people on medication... You need a thyroid coach, someone to lay everything out clearly of what you need to be doing in regards to diet and simple exercise and there are peat inspired books. I hate to say it but this forum section if a place mainly for biohackers like Haidut and like to share biohacking information.

The approach you need to take is to catch up on some resources, make a list, and follow through and contact some peat inspired health coaches. You are chasing t3 and a diagnosis of CFS. That's simply not a good plan.
At first, I was put on levothyroxine, and I was responding badly to it, then they did a blood test and found high TSH, high T4, and low T3, so they added T3. Later on, I found that levothyroxine had a bad effect on me even while I was taking liothyronine, so I stopped taking it.

Rx won't be the problem, but being off insurance will, and I won't be able to get it since I'm unable to hold a consistent job. I'll be off insurance permanently. Health coaches can always be done later on, so yes, chasing a diagnosis is necessary right now. I have a good case for CFS. My family is aware of how I fall into fatigue after doing work and they can testify to it.

Not to mention, it's likely that health coaches won't be able to do anything because I've been following Peat's ideas for almost a decade now and tried many different things. Having no insurance for dental work and such, oh boy, then would my health suffer. I'm not going to get insurance unless it's for a disability, and if I don't, then I'm screwed, whether a health coach can help me or not.
 
J

james2388

Guest
Honestly you may need to visit a psychologist, psychiatrist as well, for them to rule out depression or bipolar. CFS is not a recognized condition. Insurance is terrible. Fatigue after work, that's everyone man. Look for a driving or computer job, apply for remote telemarketing that's what disabled people do. I don't know how old you are but 0ther than that it sounds like you are going to be kicked off your parents health insurance plan soon. Maybe adderall or cyproheptadine can help.

Psychology, Psychiatry is where many people go where they can not get a direction on chronic fatigue. They can possibly help you navigate disability insurance pathways.

You are obviously not converting t4 to t3 well and a thyroid coach can get you on the right diet plan and making sure everything is done right, because it sounds like something is missing. All this is anecdotal you jumped into playing with thyroid without actually putting in the work and now you want to go on disability. Try running some basic blood labs, a full iron panel, maybe you need to donate blood.

All of this sounds like a pessimistic attitude, ask for help. Contact Josh Rubin or the other Peat Thyroid Coaches. Start tracking stuff, vitamins, minerals, calories, bowel movements, make sure you not over doing it on supplements, you need an outside pair of eyes but not the direction that you want to pursue.
 

orewashin

Member
Joined
Jun 16, 2020
Messages
327
Honestly you may need to visit a psychologist, psychiatrist as well, for them to rule out depression or bipolar. CFS is not a recognized condition. Insurance is terrible. Fatigue after work, that's everyone man. Look for a driving or computer job, apply for remote telemarketing that's what disabled people do. I don't know how old you are but 0ther than that it sounds like you are going to be kicked off your parents health insurance plan soon. Maybe adderall or cyproheptadine can help.

Psychology, Psychiatry is where many people go where they can not get a direction on chronic fatigue. They can possibly help you navigate disability insurance pathways.

You are obviously not converting t4 to t3 well and a thyroid coach can get you on the right diet plan and making sure everything is done right, because it sounds like something is missing. All this is anecdotal you jumped into playing with thyroid without actually putting in the work and now you want to go on disability. Try running some basic blood labs, a full iron panel, maybe you need to donate blood.

All of this sounds like a pessimistic attitude, ask for help. Contact Josh Rubin or the other Peat Thyroid Coaches. Start tracking stuff, vitamins, minerals, calories, bowel movements, make sure you not over doing it on supplements, you need an outside pair of eyes but not the direction that you want to pursue.
What do you mean CFS isn't a recognized condition? My problem isn't "feeling tired after work", it's my muscles shutting down after using them. It's certainly not depression or bipolar, I wanted to do sports-related hobbies and simply couldn't.

I can't realistically claim depression, though I could claim ADHD. Do these people require you to take medication in order to claim disability? Can they test your brain with a pet scan or fmri to make a stronger case?

It would be a bit ridiculous though. I have a physical condition in which I become unable to move, why do I have to go through some alternate route?

Getting a job in order to get health insurance isn't something I'm willing to do. I would have to do without health insurance.

A thyroid coach can't keep me on T3, can he?

Getting testing done sounds like a good idea and I plan to get my thyroid level tested soon.
 

CrystalClear

Member
Joined
May 11, 2016
Messages
105
How about Travis Burch? He's Peat aware, very accessible, approachable and doesn't charge an arm and a leg. Travis went for 4 years on Peat and didn't get the results he needed. Same with me. We're all on the right path with Peat imo but some of us have to go off track a bit to find what we need.
 
Similar threads
Thread starter Title Forum Replies Date
Mr Joe Homemade Peat-Friendly Whey Protein Supplements, Pharmaceutical Drugs 1
F “Peat-friendly” Amino Acids? Ask For Help or Advice 11
Brundle Is Peat-Friendly Mayonnaise A Safe Accompaniment To The Carrot Salad? Carrot Salad, Bamboo Shoots, Mushrooms 2
Such_Umami Peat Friendly Indian Takeaway Foods Ask For Help or Advice 3
Such_Umami Vegan Friendly Ray Peat Soup Recipes 10
Hitchens Rahua Hair Products. Seems Peat Friendly Hair & Nails 0
N Is It Peat Friendly To Take Minerals In The Form Of Powder? Minerals 0
P Powerlifting More Peat Friendly Than Bodybuilding Ray Peat Topics 47
jzeno Guide To Ray Peat: Simple, User-friendly Guide To Applying Lessons Learned From The Research Of RP Experiments 24
V New In! Peat-friendly Skincare Merchant Forums 0
mayweatherking Peat Friendly Cheese At A Reasonable Price? Ask For Help or Advice 6
A.R Avena Sativa/Oat Straw (Peat Friendly?) Ask For Help or Advice 3
A Peat Friendly Jobs And Careers - Experiences And Ideas Miscellaneous 21
ddjd TRT In MCT Carrier Oil - Peat Friendly? Ask For Help or Advice 24
G Forrest Are Children Instinctually More Inclined To Eat Peat Friendly Foods? Children 43
V New Peat-friendly Skincare Product Coming Soon! Merchant Forums 44
ddjd Peat - Friendly Probiotics? Ask For Help or Advice 10
B Cheap Peat-friendly Chocolate? Sweets, Snacks 6
E Good Peat Friendly Sources (foods) Of B Vitamins, Specially B6? Diet 40
Ritchie Building A Peat Friendly Home Ask For Help or Advice 61
Let Go Methylene Blue: Peat Friendly Hearing Protection Scientific Studies 11
Let Go Niacinamide: Peat Friendly Hearing Protection Scientific Studies 13
B Peat Friendly Glutamate Reduction - Advice Needed Diet 18
zelda_the_brain Peat Friendly Candy For Halloween? Sweets, Snacks 10
P What Are Some Peat-friendly Ways To Reduce High Blood Pressure Health 14
N Peat Friendly Breakfast Cereal? Starches, Fiber, Legumes 63
D Whole Foods Plant Based Diet -- Peat Friendly Discussing Dietary Models 41
Catcream New Zealand [Peat - friendly / inspired GPs?] Resources 9
healthnatura Pregnenolone Sale - support Pay Peat friendly product expansion. Health Natura 6
michael94 Peat Friendly Addition To Vanilla Ice Cream Ice Cream 12
N List Of Peat Friendly Physicians? Resources 17
Y Is Taking L-Glutamine For Leaky Gut Peat Friendly? Amino Acids 6
Daimyo Peat Friendly Fruit For Garden In Cool Temperate Climate Fruits 6
paper_clips43 Peat Friendly Nasal Sprays? Pharmaceutical Drugs 6
S Peat-friendly Acne Treatments? Skin 23
G People who eat peat friendly Miscellaneous Health Discussions 3
hoppimike Are There Any Peat-friendly Probiotics? Supplements 131
hoppimike Quick And Easy Peat-friendly Candida Supps? Viruses, Parasites, Fungus, Vaccines 14
hoppimike Peat-friendly Gut Healers? Digestion, Gut Flora 26
Cloudhands I asked peat if he believed in luck, heres his response Ask For Help or Advice 48
H All things hormones, metabolism and health with Dr Ray Peat & Emma Sgourakis Interviews 1
GelatinGoblin Has Peat talked about Euthyroid Sick Syndrome? Ask For Help or Advice 1
S Histamine intolerance explained through a Ray Peat prism Cortisol, Serotonin, Histamine 39
P How to get in contact with Ray Peat himself Ask For Help or Advice 0
Blaze Ray Peat dissed by Dr. Tom Cowan on Patrick Timpone show Ask For Help or Advice 28
A New to ray peat, trying a lot of haidut and Ray’s recommendations but what am I missing? Metabolism 10
C Ray Peat breakfast ideas? Diet 4
R I'm starting a website based on the metabolism and Dr. Ray Peat's ideas. Ray Peat Topics 28
J Fungal Acne - New product. Peat approved? Skin 0
meatbag OtBoaT Ray Peat Day 1 Transcript-Personal Background, Influences, and View of Reality and Organisms Audio Interview Transcripts 1

Similar threads

Top