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Discussion in 'Animals' started by puella, Mar 2, 2016.

  1. puella

    puella Member

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    Hi all,

    Just wanted to share some of the brands I have recently found that are slightly better than most but still not quite ideal. I'm constantly searching for a better food because I've seen a huge change in my cat since we've moved from an area where she had access to "free range" mice. When she was eating field mice she seemed so robust and just alive (I'm sure it was a combination eating head to tail & her daily access to her favorite past time of hunting).

    I haven't seen our dog on her "native" diet but assume it's still important & want to improve where we can. She will eat anything so it's a bit easier trying different foods with her.

    So my two front runners are: The Real Meat Company and Party Animal's Cocolicious.

    The Real Meat Company - Air Dried Chicken Cat Food
    Ingredients: Chicken, Chicken Liver, Chicken Heart, Chicken Gizzards, Chicken Neck, Parsley, Pumpkin, Rosemary, Inulin (from Chicory), Vegetable Glycerin, Taurine, Choline Chloride, Mixed Tocopherols (Vitamin E Supplement), Zinc Proteinate, Zinc Sulfate, Iron Sulfate, Vitamin E, Iron Proteinate, Selenium Yeast, Copper Sulfate, Nicotinic Acid, Calcium Pantothenate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin K1, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Manganous Oxide, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide (source of iodine), Riboflavin Supplement (Vitamin B2), Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Folic Acid.

    The Real Meat Company - Air Dried Lamb Dog Food
    Ingredients: Lamb, Lamb Lung, Lamb Liver, Lamb Heart, Parsley, Pumpkin, Rosemary, Inulin (from Chicory Root), Ground Lamb Bone, Vegetable Glycerin, Choline Chloride, Mixed Tocopherols (Vitamin E Supplement), Zinc Proteinate, Zinc Sulfate, Iron Sulfate, Vitamin E, Iron Proteinate, Selenium Yeast, Copper Sulfate, Nicotinic Acid, Calcium Pantothenate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Manganous Oxide, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide (source of iodine), Riboflavin Supplement (Vitamin B2), Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Folic Acid.

    Pros:
    Simple Ingredients
    Free Range Meat (sourced from USA, New Zealand, or Australia)
    Mixture of Organ & muscle meats
    Hormone/Antibiotic free
    No corn, wheat, peas, or oats

    Cons:
    Dried (It's like really tough jerky that has been cut up. it seems like the cat likes the food but has a hard time actually chewing it. I tried soaking it in water and added a little gelatin to help with the texture but she wouldn't touch it then)
    The price? (I haven't actually done the math on this...and for what they claim it seems pretty reasonable. We bought 3 generous samples for $16 and that includes shipping)


    I haven't bought the Cocolicious for the cat yet because of the underlined & bolded ingredients below:

    COCOLICIOUS Organic Turkey & Chicken Cat Food
    Ingredients: Organic Turkey, Organic Chicken, Organic Turkey Broth, Organic Coconut Oil, Organic Brussels Sprouts, Organic Kale, Organic Garbanzo Beans, Organic Lentils, Organic Bananas, Organic Chia Seeds, Organic Liver, Organic Guar Gum, Dicalcium Phosphate, Taurine, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, Niacinamide, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate, Calcium Pantot henate, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Acetate, Folic Acid, Riboflavin, Biotin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement), Minerals (Calcium Carbonate, Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Proteinate, Copper Sulfate, Potassium Iodide, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Manganese Proteinate).

    **HOWEVER, the dog food doesn't contain most of the ingredients I'm concerned about. So I was thinking I could try adding a little taurine in the dog food for the cat but need to find out more about the proper dosage.

    COCOLICIOUS 95% Wholesome Duck Dog Food
    INGREDIENTS: Duck, Duck Broth, Organic Coconut Oil, Liver, Organic Guar Gum, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, Niacinamide, L-Ascorbyl-2- Polyphosphate, Calcium Pantothenate, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Acetate, Folic Acid, Riboflavin, Biotin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement), Minerals (Calcium Carbonate, Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Proteinate, Copper Sulfate, Potassium Iodide, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Sulfate, Selenium Yeast, Manganese Proteinate).

    COCOLICIOUS 95% Organic Beef Dog Food
    INGREDIENTS: Organic Beef, Organic Beef Broth, Organic Coconut Oil, Organic Liver, Organic Guar Gum, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, Niacinamide, L-Ascorbyl-2- Polyphosphate, Calcium Pantothenate, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Acetate, Folic Acid, Riboflavin, Biotin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement), Minerals (Calcium Carbonate, Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Proteinate, Copper Sulfate, Potassium Iodide, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Sulfate, Selenium Yeast, Manganese Proteinate).
     
  2. Anne99

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    Bump... Has anyone found any reasonably priced dog food that does not contain added PUFA?
    I make all my own dog food now, but I don't know if I can keep up after I move and add another hour and a half travel time to work every day.
     
  3. Jennifer

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    Hi Anne!

    Below are the two brands I had my dog on before switching him to a freshly made raw diet. Both have a cat line as well. It has been a while so I'm not sure of their current cost. I preferred the Orijen's brand because it has less isolated vitamins and minerals added. Both have a few different varieties per product line, but these are the two my dog ate:

    Bravo Homestyle Complete Natural Beef Dinner

    Freeze Dried Beef Dog Food | Bravo Raw Pet Food - Bravo Pet Food

    INGREDIENTS: Beef, beef liver, sweet potatoes, chickpeas, beef hearts, beef kidney, beef spleen, green beans, cranberries, dried eggs, tricalcium phosphate, calcium carbonate, choline chloride, dried kelp, turmeric, rosemary, parsley, thyme, oregano, salt, mixed tocopherols (preservative), zinc proteinate, iron proteinate, copper proteinate, manganese proteinate, sodium selenite, calcium iodate, vitamin E supplement, thiamine mononitrate, niacin supplement, calcium pantothenate, biotin, vitamin A supplement, riboflavin supplement, vitamin B12 supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride, vitamin D3 supplement, folic acid, rosemary extract.

    Country of origin information:

    http://bravopetfoods.com/country_info/BV_HC_BF_COOL_12_11_14.pdf

    Orijen Tundra Freeze-dried Dog Food

    https://www.orijen.ca/foods/dog-food/freeze-dried-dog-food/tundra/

    INGREDIENTS: Venison (ground with bone), duck (ground with bone), whole steelhead trout, bison (ground with bone), elk (ground with bone), quail (ground with bone), duck liver, duck heart, spinach greens, pea fiber, bison tripe, elk liver, elk heart, elk kidney, whole ground sunflower seeds, whole pumpkin, butternut squash, whole carrots, whole cranberries, whole blueberries, whole blackberries, apples, pears, plums, apricots, brown kelp, mixed tocopherols (preservative), chicory root, dandelion root, summer savory, peppermint leaf, ginger root, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, manganese proteinate.

    Orijen's suppliers:

    https://www.orijen.ca/orijen/fresh-regional-ingredients/
     
  4. Regina

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    For dry, I give him a scoop of this everyday:
    Ziwi Peak Daily-Dog Lamb Cuisine Grain-Free Air-Dried Dog Food
    Ingredients
    Lamb - Meat (Includes Up to 3% Finely Ground Bone), Lamb - Liver, Lung, Tripe, Heart and Kidney, New Zealand Green-Lipped Mussel, Lecithin, Chicory Inulin, Dried Kelp, Parsley, Naturally Preserved with Mixed Tocopherols (Vitamin E), Vitamins: Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, D-Calcium Pantothenate, Folic Acid, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Thiamine Hydrochloride, Chelated Minerals: Iron Amino Acid Complex, Copper Amino Acid Complex, Manganese Amino Acid Complex, Zinc Amino Acid Complex, Selenium Yeast, Potassium Bicarbonate, Calcium Carbonate.

    Of course, it's expensive. I also make homemade and get a raw frozen ration delivered monthly. Table scraps and cottage cheese and ice cream also.
    No vet bills though.
     
  5. thomas00

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    How long does it tak
    How long does it take you to go through a bag of that stuff regina? I'm giving my dog the canned Ziwi Peak stuff at the moment.
     
  6. raysputin

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    I feed my cat ziwi lamb and mackerel in the can. I used to give her Stella and chewys chicken but she likes Ziwi Infinitely more and licks her bowl clean. Sometimes I give her butter and cheese, if I’m making liver for myself I’ll cut her off some. She seems happier with ziwi. Progesterone whenever she gets a bout of cystitis, which has happened very infrequently since giving her a few drops of progesterone.
     
  7. Lord Cola

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    Preference by the Honest Kitchen is pretty low fat, and has a good Ca:P ratio (I don't know if this ratio is important for dogs). It's supposed to have good, "human grade" ingredients. I've attached the nutrient profile of the product. This is a base mix, so you want to add some meat to it each meal.

    There are other products with meat in them, but I think it would be better to cook meat at home to make sure you give the best quality meat to your dog.
     

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  8. Regina

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    oops, just seeing this now.

    I've switched to a food that does not have a vitamin pack.
    Vital Essentials Beef Entree Mini Nibs
    Ingredient:
    Beef, Beef Lung, Beef Liver, Beef Stomach, Beef Heart, Beef Fat, Beef Kidney, Beef Blood, Herring Oil, Mixed Tocopherols, D-Alpha Tocopherol.

    It's expensive. But I can find no other ration with such a lean list.
    I stretch it with Trader Joe's orange slices, cottage cheese, other ziwi treats and leftovers.

    He gets about 3/4 cup most days. Some days, he might just get people food.
    I'm embarrassed to tell you the speed in which we go through these expensive bags.
    It is what it is.
     
  9. OceanSpray

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    Whatever happened to just feeding a dog raw muscle nad organ meat? Those ingredient lists are insane, PUFA is like one percent of the problem.
     
  10. Regina

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    Yeah. I did that for years.
    NATURAL POWER FORMULA (NPF)

    My dogs got to a point where they could not tolerate it. Sourcing and handling (of the meat) could have been an issue. I tried to mimic it myself.
    It became very difficult. (slicing large frozen organs into portions and re-freezing) Then they wouldn't eat it.
    Found myself throwing a lot out. And my time is worth something.

    Other than the herring oil, what exactly is wrong with those ingredients in the Vital Essentials?

    The Vital Essential Mini-Nibs and cottage cheese (no gum) and orange slices in the evening has been a game changer for this dog.
    He suffered from severe seizures and aggression when I adopted him (he was said to be 2 yr old) in 2007.
    He is at least 12 or 13 now and seizure free. Beautiful teeth, clean ears, lovely coat, no itchies in central florida summer w/o any flea "medicine".

    He did get my rib eye bone this evening though. ;)
     
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