biggirlkisss
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negative training for better results but more lactic acid. my question is how much more lactic acid is produced.
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It damages muscle fibers, the pain after training shows that damage.Don't have that info, but I am interested in why Peat says negative training is bad but positive is good. He has said on a number of occasions that the negative part of the repetition (muscle lengthening) is stressful, whereas contraction is beneficial.
I believe it essentially boils down toDon't have that info, but I am interested in why Peat says negative training is bad but positive is good. He has said on a number of occasions that the negative part of the repetition (muscle lengthening) is stressful, whereas contraction is beneficial.
It damages muscle fibers, the pain after training shows that damage.
yes you get used to it after a while.I don't have pain after training, unless I haven't trained in a while. Am I doing it wrong?
Don't have that info, but I am interested in why Peat says negative training is bad but positive is good. He has said on a number of occasions that the negative part of the repetition (muscle lengthening) is stressful, whereas contraction is beneficial.
So you guys are saying that eccentric exercise causes pain? Also, how can someone actually exercise with just positive, and no negative, movement? Just let the weight drop back to the lower position?
I don't have pain after training, unless I haven't trained in a while. Am I doing it wrong?
I think the eccentric portion is what actually induces mechanical damage on the muscle fiber, or the majority of the damage in a given lift. This is when the fiber is pulling apart rather than contracting together (not exactly in every case). I know that the nervous system undergoes much more stress in an eccentric portion of the lift than the concentric.
I wonder if getting pinned in aikido is eccentric. Your shoulders, wrists might be stretched. In general, the thrower uses muscles about like throwing a ball and the receiver holds their core and whole body together to take the throw. Bad???I think the eccentric portion is what actually induces mechanical damage on the muscle fiber, or the majority of the damage in a given lift. This is when the fiber is pulling apart rather than contracting together (not exactly in every case). I know that the nervous system undergoes much more stress in an eccentric portion of the lift than the concentric.
yar, like when you basically "drop" the deadlift at the top position. Olympic weightlifting is really a great example (clean, push presses, jerk). Muscle-ups and dropping from the top position gives great results. You can do isolation work with ropes attached to a weighed sled, or legs/whole body by pushing it. Eccentric-less works best with a higher frequency and moderate volume because it isn't as "stressful".
I did eccentric only for a few months and maintained great development on it, mostly muscle ups, deadlifts, jumping and push presses. I think it would be hard to build a great physique with just concentric phase though. Probably sensible, regular weightlifting is best for hypertrophy
No not all, soreness may actually be indicative of less development taking place. Lyle mcdonald has some great articles on the topic Bodyrecomposition - The Home of Lyle McDonald : Bodyrecomposition
so if bodybuilding increases lactic acid do the other benefits out weight that.