Masks Do Work (PBS Video)

[JDreamer]

Yes this is the question ,why no masks in previous seasons ?
If you want to enrage a member of the covid cult just point out the previous years flu seasons when nobody wore a mask and everyone was spreading the flu which likely led to death of those in the vulnerable categories = RAGE

The cult keep trying to guilt trip non mask wearers by saying they will be responsible for the death of others while ignoring their previous flu seasons non mask wearing escapades.

Every time I try to call them out for their conspicuously timed moral authority and blatant ignoring of the flu numbers - they always steer the conversation to:

1. It has side effects flu does not (then link me to a bunch of random internet "maybe" or "could" articles)
2. Claim like I'm acting nobody has died from it or that I don't care
3. Regurgitate some anecdotal story about someone they know who works in a hospital
4. Invoke "Appeal to Authority"

It never fails. In fact earlier this morning I posted that news report about the fraudulently inflated case numbers in Florida and one of the responses was "Who here is actually a doctor or science expert"? The hell does that have to do with it?

 

[Drareg]

Yeah, I'm curious what his potential connections are with organized crime and the Deep State and how close he was to the Maxwells/Epstein/Wexner. Considering one of his colleagues (Rick Allen Jones) was charged for child porn possession who was living at Gate's house at the time and working for him -- maybe Gates himself is a co-conspirator in Maxwell/Epstein's child sex trafficking ring and this Rick Allen Jones was his fall guy.
Gates employee sentenced for child pornography collection

Jones only served 90 days in jail for trading thousands of images of child porn. Difficult to find anything more on the guy as far as how close he is to Gates.

Given Gate's massive donations to the mainstream press, he can have all of his unflattering connections swept under the rug:



Bill Gates’ Web of Dark Money and Influence – Part 1: Philanthropic Narrative Shaping



Glad I'm not the only one who picked up on that. It would be too strange of a coincidence for that case not to be somehow connected to all this stuff going on.

This is why the covid cult smacks of a dialectic amongst those(elites) implicated in the Epstein paedophile scandal, it also includes big banks who are laundering money, the same banks who are now fined for money laundering in relation to Epstein are paying said fines with the ongoing tax payer funded bailout.
Change the story, change the lead from wag the dog movie, the movie is about a presidential sex scandal, to cover it they use the media to create a fake war in Albania.
the Albanian war is replaced with the media magnifying flu virus.

They knew they could control the narrative around a virus because of Gates’s influence over the WHO, trump and the Russians are supposed to be against the covid narrative in this dialectic.... Does it make any sense that people cry for trust of the experts and yet trust gates who is supposed to be a computer nerd, no experience in virology yet he is the captain covid 19 throughout this.
Gates scientific advisor was the executor of Epstein’s will, Gates staff as you mention caught with child porn at gates house , gates funding MIT through Epstein, why would gates need Epstein for a donation to MIT?

Epstein isn’t going away, even if maxwell does time and throws a few VIP’s under the bus it won’t go away, the clintons, trump, wexners ,intelligence organizations etc are all involved, the public’s knowledge on this is growing each day.
They didn’t have the courage to use a more dangerous bio weapon, it would potentially infect them, when the covid hysteria dies down who knows what they will use then, possibly a war, the rhetoric around China is rising by the day.

 

[Lejeboca]

Epstein isn’t going away, even if maxwell does time and throws a few VIP’s under the bus it won’t go away, the clintons, trump, wexners ,intelligence organizations etc are all involved, the public’s knowledge on this is growing each day.
They didn’t have the courage to use a more dangerous bio weapon, it would potentially infect them, when the covid hysteria dies down who knows what they will use then, possibly a war, the rhetoric around China is rising by the day.

This!

 

[Drareg]

Every time I try to call them out for their conspicuously timed moral authority and blatant ignoring of the flu numbers - they always steer the conversation to:

1. It has side effects flu does not (then link me to a bunch of random internet "maybe" or "could" articles)
2. Claim like I'm acting nobody has died from it or that I don't care
3. Regurgitate some anecdotal story about someone they know who works in a hospital
4. Invoke "Appeal to Authority"

It never fails. In fact earlier this morning I posted that news report about the fraudulently inflated case numbers in Florida and one of the responses was "Who here is actually a doctor or science expert"? The hell does that have to do with it?

I agree ,it’s discouraging to witness the stupidity of people, outside of those pumping covid who stand to profit from it most believers in a killer virus significantly worse than the flu are lacking mentally, it’s an uncomfortable reality to witness.

COVID is the witch, if don’t see a witch your a complicit in their minds, non mask compliance is the equivalent of wearing a witches hat and riding a straw broom in the year 1600.

 

[Drareg]

This!

It would be more effective of those commenting on Bill Gates social media to keep pumping the Epstein question rather than pumping his nefarious vaccine agenda ,many believe in vaccines so you can’t reach them that way, reframing gates as a man who wants to vaccinate your kids when he has deep ties to a child sex trafficking ring is more effective.

 

[tankasnowgod]

They didn’t have the courage to use a more dangerous bio weapon, it would potentially infect them,

There's no proof that there is a more dangerous bioweapon. Sure, there are virus research labs all over the world, but doing research is different than doing successful research. The only way you could possibly know that a bioweapon is dangerous to a large free living population is to test it on a large free living population.

Everyone thinks that you can make this "Terminator" like bioweapon, and maybe you can....... for the first generation. But how well does it replicate? And spread? By generation three, you might have gone from the Terminator to Steve Urkle. And it will still be limited by the laws of physics and peoples immune system. You can't fire a gun in Calcutta and expect to hit a target in San Francisco. But the bioweapon myth is like a cartoon or Hollywood movie....... obvious limitations do not apply, and simply never figure into people's fear or analysis.

 

[tankasnowgod]

Epstein isn’t going away, even if maxwell does time and throws a few VIP’s under the bus it won’t go away, the clintons, trump, wexners ,intelligence organizations etc are all involved, the public’s knowledge on this is growing each day.

I don't know about it "not going away." It's gotten a lot of headlines...... but so did NXVIM. Do you remember the players in that?

Have you read Cathy O'Brien's book? What about the abusers she names?

Or "The Franklin Coverup?" Remember that?

The McMartin Pre-School scandal also broke with huge headlines back in 1984. But, it died down after a while, and public opinion seemed to turn against the kids. Same with the Presidio scandal. I don't think most people even know the name Michael Aquino.

 

[Terma]

I was thinking of looking into the cafepress thing to give out free masks that say, "Test the vaccines on the politicians", but I don't really want exposure and it kinda costs... I guess you could leave them in front of grocery stores? No? I know what you're gonna say.

 

[Ableton]

So here is my take on masks.
A lot of people, also in this forum, think they have it all figured out. When in fact, they have not run a bullet proof experiment in their multi million dollar home lab.
Instead, they choose to educate themselves with sources that reinforce their worldview and what they want to be true (to establish their egos as being better, or more „woke“, than others).
Now I am not a human NPC believing everything msm, or ms science is telling us.
But I am also not a npc believing strictly everything they tell us is wrong, or believing everything posted on reddit conspiracy is true.
The ******* truth is, ladies and gentlemen, that we do not know with absolute certainty if they work, and if they do work, to which extent. We only like some truth more than others for whatever reason. Stop ******* pretending to know more than others. It’s a sign of stupidity to think so, honestly.
So if you consider you cannot know with certainty whats true, is it the right thing to endanger lives as well as a return to a somewhat healthy social state for the convenience of not wearing a mask, or the convenience of reinforcing your ego to know better than others and not bow to authorities? I think it’s difficult to argue this is the right thing to do. so my take is, wear a ******* mask when you get close to other people for the benefit of the doubt at least. Consider that there is at least a small chance that this belief pattern holds us back from getting this pandemic (if it exists) under control (which we apparently are in most countries following mask protocols, for that matter).
Now, if a return to normal isn’t made possible by authorities despite these measures for months to come, we have an argument again that will be harder for me to take a stand.
But for now, there seems to be some evidence that the high rate of new infections in the us correlates with less mask using (or late regulation)
My take on how effective masks are: they are a physical barrier. This barrier is far from perfect. But I think it’s highly unlikely it does virtually nothing. I think it’s possible it does less than it should to warrant the measures, but again, I do not know that, and if I research it, I already know I will come up with conflicting sources that I can then value against each other to my liking. A useless task. So I wear masks for now as this is the best moral practice I can come up with with everything I know, since Wearing them for an average of like 1 hour a day and being able to breathe well enough seems fine to me given the implications of this supposed pandemic

 

[not_James_Bond]

In a public space it shows respect to consider wearing a mask, here in the UK our Government is behind the curve on their use, if I am being cynical that was probably due to them being scarce and reserved for front line health staff.
I see people here walking the streets wearing a mask or whilst driving and that is totally unnecessary but it is a minor inconvenience until we can get back to normality.

If you are going to wear a mask then you need pristine etiquette to do so, wash your hands before putting on, don't touch your face whilst wearing and wash your hands before removing. A mask should be stored safely and washed, I use something like Zoflora that kills 99.9% germs. It is very easy if you don't consciously think whilst wearing a mask to touch it, the eyes are particularly vulnerable entry points for infection.

Here in the UK we were initially given figures of 500'000 deaths IIRC in the US it was forecast at 2.2 million that makes me suspicious of who our Government were listening to, and whether the science was 'way, off, dunno.

 

[achillea]

ITS ONLY A MASK
then
ITS ONLY A VACCINE
Sherry Tenpenny

 

[Lejeboca]

ITS ONLY A MASK
then
ITS ONLY A VACCINE
Sherry Tenpenny

It's only a lttle prick
-- Vernon Coleman
(which is also the title of his vid. on B. Gates)

 

[jb116]

In a public space it shows respect to consider wearing a mask...

I have just not seen it that way. In my perspective wearing a mask is a sign of acknowledging that most people will follow orders, have no fundamental understanding of biology or physiology, and are in a word: indoctrinated. This is what I meant before when I said I'm anti, "anti-mask vs pro-mask" talk because it is further down the road of insanity, rather than asking questions of how does an organism get healthy and consequently remain protected against the very thing with which it has evolved.

 

[boris]

But for now, there seems to be some evidence that the high rate of new infections in the us correlates with less mask using (or late regulation)

Would you mind sharing that evidence?

I do not know that, and if I research it, I already know I will come up with conflicting sources that I can then value against each other to my liking. A useless task.

So you didn‘t even try and research it? How can you presume that it‘s a useless task if you didn‘t compare the quality of the evidence. Maybe there is a clear difference.

 

[not_James_Bond]

It's only a lttle prick
-- Vernon Coleman
(which is also the title of his vid. on B. Gates)

lmao
The internet creates a sort of 'closed ideology echo chamber' wherein people who share unusual beliefs reinforce each other's thinking.

 

[Ableton]

So here is my take on masks.
A lot of people, also in this forum, think they have it all figured out. When in fact, they have not run a bullet proof experiment in their multi million dollar home lab.
Instead, they choose to educate themselves with sources that reinforce their worldview and what they want to be true (to establish their egos as being better, or more „woke“, than others).
Now I am not a human NPC believing everything msm, or ms science is telling us.
But I am also not a npc believing strictly everything they tell us is wrong, or believing everything posted on reddit conspiracy is true.
The ******* truth is, ladies and gentlemen, that we do not know with absolute certainty if they work, and if they do work, to which extent. We only like some truth more than others for whatever reason. Stop ******* pretending to know more than others. It’s a sign of stupidity to think so, honestly.
So if you consider you cannot know with certainty whats true, is it the right thing to endanger lives as well as a return to a somewhat healthy social state for the convenience of not wearing a mask, or the convenience of reinforcing your ego to know better than others and not bow to authorities? I think it’s difficult to argue this is the right thing to do. so my take is, wear a ******* mask when you get close to other people for the benefit of the doubt at least. Consider that there is at least a small chance that this belief pattern holds us back from getting this pandemic (if it exists) under control (which we apparently are in most countries following mask protocols, for that matter).
Now, if a return to normal isn’t made possible by authorities despite these measures for months to come, we have an argument again that will be harder for me to take a stand.
But for now, there seems to be some evidence that the high rate of new infections in the us correlates with less mask using (or late regulation)

Would you mind sharing that evidence?



So you didn‘t even try and research it? How can you presume that it‘s a useless task if you didn‘t compare the quality of the evidence. Maybe there is a clear difference.

Its just common sense to some degree. We all know those famous ultra high def Slowmo vids of people sneezing. Spit everwhere, meters away.
Imagine the same video with the person wearing a mask.
It’s quite easy to imagine that most if not all of the visible fluids would remain in the mask instead of being spead around a 5 meter radius in front of the person, or if that person sneezes in their arm, say 0,5 meters to the side or something. Ifcthis happens in a crowded place, this might mean 0-1 infections instead of 5-8.
It also might not, because the amount does not really matter, but it could.
Like another user said, just because something doesn’t work 100% does not mean it foes not work in a relevant way. I think my scenario anrcdotally shows that it’s not too far fetched that masks matter

 

[schultz]

I said this before but, if you think wearing a mask is important now then logically we should be wearing masks in public spaces from now on, regardless of CO19. Right? The next killer virus could strike at any time so we might as well be cautious and just always wear masks. This should prevent flu season as well I guess...

The government should also start controlling what we eat because diet is connected to health and it's for people's own good.

Also your genetics determine how sickly you will become, so we should probably start weeding out people with bad genes because they may be carriers for viruses and such. At the very least we should sterilize such people.

 

[achillea]

NOTE BEHAVIORAL RECOMMEDATION


Factors Associated with Cloth Face Covering Use Among Adults During the COVID-19 Pandemic — United States, April and May 2020
CDC Weekly / July 17, 2020 / 69(28);933-937

On April 3, 2020, the White House Coronavirus Task Force and CDC announced a new behavioral recommendation to help slow the spread of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) by encouraging the use of a cloth face covering when out in public (1). Widespread use of cloth face coverings has not been studied among the U.S. population, and therefore, little is known about encouraging the public to adopt this behavior. Immediately following the recommendation, an Internet survey
Days after announcing a new behavioral recommendation on April 3, adults in the United States quickly adopted the practice of using cloth face coverings, and a higher prevalence of use was reported 1 month later

 

[Drareg]

I don't know about it "not going away." It's gotten a lot of headlines...... but so did NXVIM. Do you remember the players in that?

Have you read Cathy O'Brien's book? What about the abusers she names?

Or "The Franklin Coverup?" Remember that?

The McMartin Pre-School scandal also broke with huge headlines back in 1984. But, it died down after a while, and public opinion seemed to turn against the kids. Same with the Presidio scandal. I don't think most people even know the name Michael Aquino.

What was the economy like in those times?
Keep in mind there wasn’t internet back then, the media controlled the information and influenced meanings, with the internet it’s not as easy for them to do this.
NXVIM is tied into Epstein, people on the Epstein trail are familiar with it.

I haven’t read Cathy o briens books.

 

[Drareg]

There's no proof that there is a more dangerous bioweapon. Sure, there are virus research labs all over the world, but doing research is different than doing successful research. The only way you could possibly know that a bioweapon is dangerous to a large free living population is to test it on a large free living population.

Everyone thinks that you can make this "Terminator" like bioweapon, and maybe you can....... for the first generation. But how well does it replicate? And spread? By generation three, you might have gone from the Terminator to Steve Urkle. And it will still be limited by the laws of physics and peoples immune system. You can't fire a gun in Calcutta and expect to hit a target in San Francisco. But the bioweapon myth is like a cartoon or Hollywood movie....... obvious limitations do not apply, and simply never figure into people's fear or analysis.

They are modifying mousse models with CRISPR so they carry human peptides, it can be tested this way, CRISPR isn’t that accurate but it has an effect, the thing they don’t bother to think about is the metabolic energy required to run genome changes.
My concern is some of them are stupid enough and desperate enough to try these things.