I'm Sensitive To Something In Coffee, And It Isn't Caffeine

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  1. jitsmonkey

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    are you having any carbohydrate with the versions that give you anxiety?
    or a better question is WHAT are you eating with those versions
     
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    IMO there is a good chance it is the homocystinergic effect of coffee. The effect is equal for both decaf and caf.
     
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    Yes I drink my coffee following my meals which always have carbohydrates. Sometimes I'll drink it apart from my meals, and then I'm especially sensitive to the anxiety, but the half and half really helps. It also masks the taste of the shitty coffee I use lol and I actually really enjoy the taste of my half and half coffee.

    Definitely the more carbohydrates I have flowing through my system the more the anxiety is buffered, but for some reason I find that the half and half increases the tolerance to anxiety significantly more than black alone.
     
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    Fascinating comment, because I actually had high homocysteine levels in my last round of bloodwork. Doctor put it down to MTHFR, and started me on a Folate/targeted B Vitamin supplement, but now I’m wondering if maybe it was from coffee. Then again, the coffee may just be revealing the deficiency by increasing metabolism.
     
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    I agree about stuff like starbucks dark roast. I really ment medium roasts when i say darker roasts, not charred black beans. But if you have gastric problems id avoid light roasts because higher chlorogenic acid content, but your mileage may very.

    Try for medium roasts, or espresso blends. Espresso blends choose beans with lower acidity so you may have better luck. Beans grown in lower altitudes have lower chlorogenic acid content also.

    Id def recommend fresh coffee beans grinded versus already powdered since coffee gets rancid very fast because of the oils so if you buy and preground its def rancid already. A cheap but good quality hand grinder is the evergrind you can prob find on amazon.

    Heres some reccs for some roasteries if you cant get good beans locally:
    Best brands of coffee that can be purchased online? : Coffee
     
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    Have you posted them here?
     
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    Update: I finally had to just quit drinking coffee. From what I’ve read online, people typically go through withdrawals for days or weeks, but it’s only been three days since I quit cold turkey, and I already feel VASTLY better despite currently using no caffeine of any kind.

    I think I must be allergic to something in brewed coffee. Considering one of those commercial genome tests if they’ll shed any light on the issue. I know about CYP1A2, but like I said, I don’t think caffeine itself is the issue. Perhaps there are other genes responsible for metabolizing the “xenobiotics,” or perhaps whatever I’m allergic to is also metabolized by CYP1A2. It wouldn’t surprise me to learn that I have low CYP1A2 activity, since I have a history of high E2 estadiol and usually feel good after eating large quantities of broccoli.
     
  8. Luann

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    Good thing I drink light roast :) I'm craving more information on COMT, if you have it! I haven't done any genetic testing, but still would like to know what things help and harm possible COMT mutants :)
    I'm definitely getting better at WebMD-ing myself without making too many conclusions or really taking it seriously. It's like... the information on gene mutations is good, just in case. Anyway. Input is welcome....
     
  9. Makrosky

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    Don't worry, coffee/caffeine is just a cheap stimulant.

    If you can replace that with more systemic substances like b vitamins, pregnenolone, thyroid, etc then it will be better for you.

    You will loose the pro-bile, pro mood and anticancer properties, etc... but... that's life. You can achieve that with many other substances.
     
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    Yes, a lot of people are... Definitely never drink instant coffee or anything that seems low quality. Coffee is a luxury. If you're going to have coffee, then have quality coffee. I recommend espresso.
     
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    Bumping this because I think this thread missed one of the more simple explanations. Thiaminases. If you can tolerate caffeine alone but have issues with coffee, be sure to try supplemental vitamin b1.
     
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