Estrogen Dominance At 16

[Lilac]

I am really afraid that the GP will prescribe me birth control but I will see.

You can see the doctor, fill the prescription, and NOT take the pills. That is your decision.

After a lot of years of experimenting, I am having some success with plain raw carrot. (I think the coconut oil is the carrot salad was somewhat allergenic for me.)

Have you tried aspirin dissolved in water (let the sediment settle on the bottom) to lower estrogen?

Good luck!

 

[somuch4food]

I have not been tested. My gut becomes irritated from starch but I have no substitute for that right now. I had diarrhea sometimes in the past in the first week of my menstrual cycle but that is completely gone now. Sometimes bloating. Certainly now constipation. Pain not really. Sometimes brain fog but that is not related to digestion of course.

Brain fog is totally related to digestion. Just about anything is related to digestion.

I would strongly advice that you reconsider whole wheat, or at least reduce it. It is irritating to the gut. Have you tried oats/oatmeal? The fiber in it feeds the good bugs. Other useful foods to feed beneficial bacteria is apple pectin and starchy root vegetables. Sometimes starches bloat me, sometimes its proteins, it all depends on your gut composition.

She believes saturated fat is terrible and cholesterol will clog my arteries

I would argue to her that you are still young to worry about arteries. You should not even be thinking about nutrition (I think PUFA oils are to blame for this, they make me feel anxious/depressed). Would she be open to reading studies?

You could also mention the French paradox. Their diet is laden with saturated fats yet they have less heart disease.

Now if I put myself in your parents' shoes, I would be very worried that you are still being orthorexic. I had a similar experience with my partner when I lost too much weight going zero added sugar. Since finding this forum, I have been eating like crazy and now he's worried I will put on too much weight.

Try to enjoy the food your mother makes even with the PUFA in it. It will reassure her that you're less orthorexic.

Also, you need a whole lot more animal proteins to heal.

It might need a lot of work, but if there is one thing that your parents should acknowledge it's that saturated fats are good for us.

 

[lampofred]

Thank you for your comment. I took the raw carrot for days sometimes and it completely bashed all of my symptoms. If I don't take it my heart rate is very high, and I come from a country where very high starch consumption is common. My gut becomes irritated from potatoes and bread but the carrot seemed to relieve all of that . I don't have access here to Progest-E but I'm thinking of buying the ProgesterAll crème.

And the days I ate very high protein (I think around 60 to 80 grams per day) all of my symptoms were gone. But I don't have a lot of control here over my eating habits. My mom is a nurse and used to work on the cardiology unit. She believes saturated fat is terrible and cholesterol will clog my arteries. She told me to stop using coconut oil (worked very well for me as well, actually). The only days I am able to eat 100% Peat approved is when my parents are not home because then I have time to cook proper meals. I think I have enough calcium. Milk helps me a lot. Salt my mother also believes is terrible, but I sometimes made a very salty drink in the past and I stopped hyperventilating altogether. She bakes all of our food in PUFA.

And you are not paranoid!! I actually agree with you :)

Do you think your mom might be open to using olive oil instead of vegetable oil? It's low in saturated fat & high in monounsaturated fat, so it should be considered heart healthy even through the viewpoint of current mainstream medicine.

Also, a non-dietary tip that might help with digestion: my personal experience is that consciously focusing on my breath to make sure I'm breathing slowly and regularly throughout the day, but especially during meals and right after meals, helps tremendously with digestion. Hyperventilation reduces blood flow to the stomach. Making sure I'm relaxed and focusing fully on food while eating helps tremendously as well. So does chewing everything extremely thoroughly till it's basically a mush in my mouth.

Lastly, getting more sunlight in the early AM or late evening can help a lot with reducing estrogen dominance symptoms.

 

[lampofred]

Was his opinion based on the following study: Melatonin and serotonin regulate the release of insulin-like growth factor-I, oxytocin and progesterone by cultured human granulosa cells. - PubMed - NCBI?

Here are a few others:

Stimulation of progesterone secretion by cultured human granulosa cells with melatonin and catecholamines. - PubMed - NCBI

Direct action of melatonin in human granulosa-luteal cells. - PubMed - NCBI

The circadian pattern of melatonin and its positive relationship with progesterone in women. - PubMed - NCBI

Not sure what study it was based on, but I think he was saying something along the lines of people with high progesterone naturally have high melatonin but supplementing additional melatonin will actually increase estrogen. And that it's the opposite for rats, supplementing melatonin for rats increases progesterone for them. He does say melatonin has a few positives, such as the fact that it is a lot safer than serotonin and can antagonize serotonin, but I still don't think he recommends supplementation.

 

[dutchmiss]

You can see the doctor, fill the prescription, and NOT take the pills. That is your decision.

After a lot of years of experimenting, I am having some success with plain raw carrot. (I think the coconut oil is the carrot salad was somewhat allergenic for me.)

Have you tried aspirin dissolved in water (let the sediment settle on the bottom) to lower estrogen?

Good luck!

Thank you for posting. I know I can also decide to not take them but the problem is that then my issues will probably stay the same. I have my finals and more test weeks this year in school and if I am still vomiting then I probably can't even do those. I have never used aspirin, but will consider it. Thank you for the recommendation!

 

[dutchmiss]

Brain fog is totally related to digestion. Just about anything is related to digestion.

I would strongly advice that you reconsider whole wheat, or at least reduce it. It is irritating to the gut. Have you tried oats/oatmeal? The fiber in it feeds the good bugs. Other useful foods to feed beneficial bacteria is apple pectin and starchy root vegetables. Sometimes starches bloat me, sometimes its proteins, it all depends on your gut composition.



I would argue to her that you are still young to worry about arteries. You should not even be thinking about nutrition (I think PUFA oils are to blame for this, they make me feel anxious/depressed). Would she be open to reading studies?

You could also mention the French paradox. Their diet is laden with saturated fats yet they have less heart disease.

Now if I put myself in your parents' shoes, I would be very worried that you are still being orthorexic. I had a similar experience with my partner when I lost too much weight going zero added sugar. Since finding this forum, I have been eating like crazy and now he's worried I will put on too much weight.

Try to enjoy the food your mother makes even with the PUFA in it. It will reassure her that you're less orthorexic.

Also, you need a whole lot more animal proteins to heal.

It might need a lot of work, but if there is one thing that your parents should acknowledge it's that saturated fats are good for us.

Thank you for commenting again. My sister eats oatmeal, so maybe I can try that out.

And you are right, at this age I probably shouldn't even be thinking about nutrition. My mother once said that she thought I was developing an eating disorder. I do eat less than I used to in the past, but eating is the only thing that bashes the stress for me, so many times I will just buy my own food, but she does not like that. I do actually eat all of her meals, I can't imagine not doing that. I love her and I don't want this stuff to get between us .

My parents know I love biology, I want to become a nurse later. But anything I bring up in relationship to biology (when we are having dinner, for example) they believe I say these things to myself look smarter. So I have trouble telling them these things and they don't understand why I eat the way I do. I don't think she will be willing to read studies. I am doing a research project for school now about stress and metabolism, and I do citate studies that are for example mentioned here on the forum. When it is finished she will probably be reading that but I am not sure if she will be convinced.

 

[dutchmiss]

Do you think your mom might be open to using olive oil instead of vegetable oil? It's low in saturated fat & high in monounsaturated fat, so it should be considered heart healthy even through the viewpoint of current mainstream medicine.

Also, a non-dietary tip that might help with digestion: my personal experience is that consciously focusing on my breath to make sure I'm breathing slowly and regularly throughout the day, but especially during meals and right after meals, helps tremendously with digestion. Hyperventilation reduces blood flow to the stomach. Making sure I'm relaxed and focusing fully on food while eating helps tremendously as well. So does chewing everything extremely thoroughly till it's basically a mush in my mouth.

Lastly, getting more sunlight in the early AM or late evening can help a lot with reducing estrogen dominance symptoms.

Thanks for commenting again. We already use olive oil sometimes. Otherwise its highly unsaturated margarine, and we have a pot of sunflower oil that I believe she cooks in.
Breathing helps me as well. I come from a region with very cold climate, and it's becoming winter slowly here so sunlight is unfortunately unavailable.

 

[dutchmiss]

I'm a man so can't offer you any advice (But there are loads of very knowledgeable females on here, they'll post soon I'm sure)

Just to confirm that, from my point of view, the pill does indeed have bad effects on women. You've made a sensible choice.

And that England has that effect on most people. (walking with my stomach bend and head down)

Well thank you! I know that is very true hahaha

 

[Hugh Johnson]

Hello everybody,

I am new to the forum. I am a 16 year old Dutch girl who found Peat after a history of extreme exercise and dieting.

I feel like Peat has helped me a lot. However, when I stopped with the extreme exercise, my menstrual issues increased.

I was on holiday this summer in England and got chronic diarrhea, muscle wasting, I couldn't get out of bed and was walking with my stomach bend and head down so I would not feel the stomach pain. I recently went to England again (Oxford, with school), and basically my entire trip was ruined by my period. I kept on vomiting, had no hunger, was grumpy all the time and my classmates and all of my teachers did not like being around me.

Yesterday I started my period again. I have no stomach pain but I keep on vomiting; it is so bad that I now have to skip tests in school so I can stay home. I have no hunger and my muscles feel non existent.

I am so done with all of this. My mother is going to plan an appointment with a GP. I said I absolutely do not want to start the pill at this age, I noticed that a lot of my female friends their behaviour changed went they started to use those pills. My mom thinks I keep exaggerating how bad the pill is. But I really don't want to take it. I keep crying about it and she does not understand it.

My diet is certainly not how I want it to be exactly, also because of my parents because they believe my eating habits are strange so I just conform to their wishes now.

I was hoping to find some advice here. If any of you have a more natural way to fix primarily the vomiting, and how you deal with muscle wasting and such. Anything is welcome, I am so done with all of it. Greetings.

I am curious about how the pill affected your friends, if you would be willing to share.

 

[somuch4food]

My mother once said that she thought I was developing an eating disorder. I do eat less than I used to in the past, but eating is the only thing that bashes the stress for me, so many times I will just buy my own food, but she does not like that.

That's why I was mentioning orthorexia. I did get the same kind of comments. I do think I was being orthorexic at one point, but I have since understood that it was not doing me any good. I now focus less on food.

I see you are using food to deal with stress. From my experience, it is a sign that you are not eating enough and that you are running on stress hormones. When I am well fed, stress does not affect me as much. It's like I don't even bother about it. Stress when I am well fed seems to only serve to boost my functions, but if I have not eaten enough stress will make me so anxious that I worry about every little thing.

Interesting chart on the non-correlation between cholesterol and heart disease:

Government finally admits it was wrong about Cholesterol - Uncommon Wisdom Daily

 

[dutchmiss]

I am curious about how the pill affected your friends, if you would be willing to share.

I can tell you about my best friend. Months ago she met a man from an online dating app she really liked. Before they started dating I asked how long she wanted to wait with intercourse, she said a few months. But within just a month she went to a GP to get her first pill prescribed. She said she started to get very bad acne and experienced weight gain. I know those are common but it did not end there.

For privacy reasons I can't say everything, but a few months later she started to go through some very bad stuff with her family. She got immediately a depression diagnosis (I thought that was a bit strange) and started cutting herself. Her mom got her to go to a psychologist, and that boyfriend wasn't helping her at all, so she broke it off. Got a new boyfriend now and it's going much better but she still has depression. I talked to her a few weeks back, the pill has now completely altered her natural cycle when she did not even take it for a few weeks. She bleeds excessively, and just after 2 weeks it starts again (basically the whole progesterone phase is cut off).

Another girl in my school is transgender; she wants to become a man. She travelled with me to that trip to Oxford. For some reason she told me that her doctor prescribed her the pill (even though it has female hormones in it). She has issues with socialising, she was much more bright a few years back it seemed. I have no idea how long she is taking this medication but I saw her take painkillers every night before bed during that trip, so she probably has more issues.

Oh, and there is another one. It's a friend of a friend basically, also travelled with me during that trip. She takes it because of menstrual regulation I believe, but she told me also as birth control. She is super hyper and has A LOT of moods swings (you can tell). She also is not very lean, but I am not sure what she looked like before she took the pill.

The first person is the one I know the best and she has terrible experience with the pill. Got constantly prescribed different ones but they all seem to have the same effect. The transgender stuck with me because she wants to stop developing female secondary sex characterises and it seems like it is working. She is extremely lean and it almost seemed to me that they were prescribing the pill as an anti-fertility drug. I have yet to meet a girl that took the pill that did not experience some adverse side effects.

 

[dutchmiss]

That's why I was mentioning orthorexia. I did get the same kind of comments. I do think I was being orthorexic at one point, but I have since understood that it was not doing me any good. I now focus less on food.

I see you are using food to deal with stress. From my experience, it is a sign that you are not eating enough and that you are running on stress hormones. When I am well fed, stress does not affect me as much. It's like I don't even bother about it. Stress when I am well fed seems to only serve to boost my functions, but if I have not eaten enough stress will make me so anxious that I worry about every little thing.

Interesting chart on the non-correlation between cholesterol and heart disease:

Government finally admits it was wrong about Cholesterol - Uncommon Wisdom Daily

Thank you again. That chart is interesting.

I am not sure if it is stress. People around me describe me as relaxed and I don't always have these symptoms, it is just when I am menstruating that it is really bad. I am also not very concerned about school (like most people my age hahah), my teachers and parents say at least so that certainly can not be causing it. I can definitely relate with you that when I am well fed the stress does not affect me. I usually don't mind eating bad stuff then because I don't experience side effects, it is moments like now that it is really bothering me. What would you recommend for eating more? Just sugar and more protein?

 

[Cirion]

At the risk of sounding like I'm being paid to be the spokesperson for Dr. Brownstein (I have been excited to share my discoveries since the light bulb went off for me recently about the necessity of Iodine), I wonder if it is an iodine deficiency and/or toxic halogen overload, since these directly impact thyroid function and thus overall well-being and also from what I understand help keep estrogen levels contained. In particular, it seems like women have an ever higher chance than men to have a deficiency of it (and if 97% of all patients he saw had deficiency, that means 98%+ of women he saw were deficient... quite astonishing when you think about it). This means that essentially everyone in the civilized world probably has some degree of thyroid dysfunction, some more so than others. May be worth trying to see if you can find an Iodine literate Dr. in your area to get various tests (including for iodine saturation, TSH, T3/T4, bromine toxicity, thyroid antibodies, etc...) Since you're only 16, I don't feel comfortable giving you guidance on the Iodine protocol and you should definitely see a Dr. and not trust the advice of some random person on the internet as to dosages and whatnot. Women are particularly sensitive to Iodine deficiency during pregnancy, since they have to pass on to the baby. I think this helps explain why so many women have trouble "losing the baby weight" because a sluggish metabolism/thyroid loves to pack on body fat. It also helps explain why so many otherwise healthy women seem to permanently destroy their health/weight from kids. Iodine levels can be difficult to restore without intervention in many cases and so they "never lose the baby weight". In fact I happen to know (well not anymore, we no longer chat, but...) two women who both had very trim figures and permanently gained weight after pregnancy, one of whom went on to even get Hashimoto's. For that matter I only know one woman (besides my mom, who also eats healthy) out of all the ladies in my life who did NOT maintain excessive weight after pregnancy, and the only reason I believe she didn't is because she eats a healthy organic foods diet (note - not calorie restricted though). I'm not saying that to put anyone down, but rather to drive home the point that the type of foods / nutrients really matter. Food babe has been an interesting resource for me recently, after my mom told me about her, and her exposing the poisons that we ingest on a daily basis from 90-95% of industrial food. These "poisons" rarely kill us (right away at least), hence the FDA are able to "approve them in "safe" amounts". They instead kill us slowly and eventually give us cancer in a couple of decades not to mention make us go crazy with depression or even more severe conditions like bipolar (I am convinced a major contributing factor in bipolar developing in my ex-gf was dysfunctional thyroid exasperated by poor diet).

Nathan hatch (author of F*** portion control) has been an incredible resource and fountain of knowledge for me as well. Another light bulb went off for me when he explains in his book that psychiatric disorders like depression, bipolar are not some nebulous disease that just happens for some unknown reason psychological but are nothing more than the resultant negative effects from a PHYSICALLY unhealthy body exasperated by poor diet, poor thyroid function, poor environmental factors.

On that note I think I may have had too much Iodine today and made myself Hyperthyroid LOL. I can't believe I just wrote that huge wall of text :p

 

[somuch4food]

I usually don't mind eating bad stuff then because I don't experience side effects, it is moments like now that it is really bothering me. What would you recommend for eating more? Just sugar and more protein?

What helped me calm down was more saturated fats: dairy, chocolate.

Make sure you get enough quality proteins from meat and dairy. Then, the rest is up to you. Experiment with different foods, carb/fat ratios. Note how you feel after eating a food. If you are cold, your body is being stressed, if you feel cozy, your body is relaxed and is producing heat instead of mitigating stress.

I ate a high pufa lunch last week. About 30 minutes after the lunch, my hands were cold and I was shivering.

 

[somuch4food]

Also, I find that I have to eat a lot in the AM to prevent a crash late in the afternoon.

 

[baccheion]

At the risk of sounding like I'm being paid to be the spokesperson for Dr. Brownstein (I have been excited to share my discoveries since the light bulb went off for me recently about the necessity of Iodine), I wonder if it is an iodine deficiency and/or toxic halogen overload, since these directly impact thyroid function and thus overall well-being and also from what I understand help keep estrogen levels contained. In particular, it seems like women have an ever higher chance than men to have a deficiency of it (and if 97% of all patients he saw had deficiency, that means 98%+ of women he saw were deficient... quite astonishing when you think about it). This means that essentially everyone in the civilized world probably has some degree of thyroid dysfunction, some more so than others. May be worth trying to see if you can find an Iodine literate Dr. in your area to get various tests (including for iodine saturation, TSH, T3/T4, bromine toxicity, thyroid antibodies, etc...) Since you're only 16, I don't feel comfortable giving you guidance on the Iodine protocol and you should definitely see a Dr. and not trust the advice of some random person on the internet as to dosages and whatnot. Women are particularly sensitive to Iodine deficiency during pregnancy, since they have to pass on to the baby. I think this helps explain why so many women have trouble "losing the baby weight" because a sluggish metabolism/thyroid loves to pack on body fat. It also helps explain why so many otherwise healthy women seem to permanently destroy their health/weight from kids. Iodine levels can be difficult to restore without intervention in many cases and so they "never lose the baby weight". In fact I happen to know (well not anymore, we no longer chat, but...) two women who both had very trim figures and permanently gained weight after pregnancy, one of whom went on to even get Hashimoto's. For that matter I only know one woman (besides my mom, who also eats healthy) out of all the ladies in my life who did NOT maintain excessive weight after pregnancy, and the only reason I believe she didn't is because she eats a healthy organic foods diet (note - not calorie restricted though). I'm not saying that to put anyone down, but rather to drive home the point that the type of foods / nutrients really matter. Food babe has been an interesting resource for me recently, after my mom told me about her, and her exposing the poisons that we ingest on a daily basis from 90-95% of industrial food. These "poisons" rarely kill us (right away at least), hence the FDA are able to "approve them in "safe" amounts". They instead kill us slowly and eventually give us cancer in a couple of decades not to mention make us go crazy with depression or even more severe conditions like bipolar (I am convinced a major contributing factor in bipolar developing in my ex-gf was dysfunctional thyroid exasperated by poor diet).

Nathan hatch (author of F*** portion control) has been an incredible resource and fountain of knowledge for me as well. Another light bulb went off for me when he explains in his book that psychiatric disorders like depression, bipolar are not some nebulous disease that just happens for some unknown reason psychological but are nothing more than the resultant negative effects from a PHYSICALLY unhealthy body exasperated by poor diet, poor thyroid function, poor environmental factors.

On that note I think I may have had too much Iodine today and made myself Hyperthyroid LOL. I can't believe I just wrote that huge wall of text :p

How much iodine do you take each day? What forms? And with what else? What were your lab results (TSH, fT4, fT3, rT4, rT3, etc) before and after with ranges? What effect does the protocol have on you?

 

[JustAGuy]

I was in a similar situation having to tinker with my diet at your age in high school due to very severe IBS (often extreme pain which led to me not being able to walk and fainting from the pain). Went to doctors for years, got tons of laxatives/opiod pain killers etc. Had probably been to over 10 doctors in years of time during high school. It never helped me. The only thing that worked was experimenting with diet.

Luckily I had parents that supported me with my extreme diet changes, they saw my extreme pain so I guess that helped (they found it weird but let me do my thing). Eventually at age 19 I managed to cure myself from the problems, no more meds needed since 5 years.

Honestly I would not even put effort in trying to convince your parents if they’re that “koppig”. Just experiment with what kind of foods work well for you. One thing that makes bread digest better for me is removing the crust. Also you could drink an extra glass of orange juice if you feel it sits with you well, stop using “margarine” (I know this pufa health habit is big in NL. I always had this growing up) and use something else on bread if you can.

What I try to say I guess is you can make a difference I think within the limited options you have for now as it might not be possible to make a full 180 at this moment in time with your environment.

Regarding the pill just go by your gut feeling, if you don’t want it then don’t let people force you into it.

On the topic of brain fog in my experience this is related to digestion. For me personally when foods digest super easy there is no brain fog. I had this for years but figured it out after fasting that brain fog disappeared. Protein/fat are offenders for me and I am forced to eat high carb lowish protein low fat. I think this is different for everyone and you will have to see what works for you.

 

[Cirion]

On the topic of brain fog in my experience this is related to digestion. For me personally when foods digest super easy there is no brain fog. I had this for years but figured it out after fasting that brain fog disappeared. Protein/fat are offenders for me and I am forced to eat high carb lowish protein low fat. I think this is different for everyone and you will have to see what works for you.

Fat can inhibit the glucose pathway especially if it is an unhelpful fat like MUFA, or PUFA and may increase carb requirements especially with someone with hypo. Also protein can cause lots of ammonia (not to mention lower blood sugar), which is why a lowish protein diet probably helps you. I notice the same things, because I still am a recovering hypo, and try to limit my protein to around 100g, and my breakfast is rarely more than 10-20g of protein for this reason.

How much iodine do you take each day? What forms? And with what else? What were your lab results (TSH, fT4, fT3, rT4, rT3, etc) before and after with ranges? What effect does the protocol have on you?

Part of the reason I'm limiting how much I say to this 16 year old is that there's no telling how things could be different for someone younger, and I don't want someone that young to endanger themselves by going crazy with it without professional guidance. I will say that a quick search will tell you that generally anywhere from 20-50 mg is recommended a day for someone 18 or over and does not have Hashimoto's. For someone younger than 18, this number will be less, by how much, I'm not sure.

I believe potassium iodide is the most tolerated form of iodine. I take lugols which is a mixture of elemental iodine and potassium iodide. From what I recall, burtlancast posted a link showing that a concoction of pure potassium iodide (with no elemental iodine) had zero reports of side effects.

I want to find a local Iodine Dr. in my area but have not located one as of yet, thus I have not yet done the tests for TSH, T4, T3 etc. yet since starting the protocol. I have some older lab results somewhere I can dig up, from what I recall my T3 was fairly low on that. In fact, the Dr. who looked at it told me "you probably have mineral imbalances". She wouldn't really clarify which minerals though, and thinking back on it, suspect that mineral was probably Iodine (also magnesium, sodium, calcium). It would be nice to be able to find one soon so I can get kind of a before and after picture for sure. I ordered Dr. Brown's book off amazon and it arrives today, so I can have a look at it over the weekend to get more info. I think if necessary I can just order the tests online and they'll just assign me a Dr. for it. I believe its like $110 if you just want to do an iodine saturation & bromine toxicity test.

The first 2-3 days I got a few cold like symptoms (runny nose, a lot of fatigue and brain fog) that have now all but gone away except a little residual fatigue. I think you can mitigate even those first few days if you're smart (don't be dumb like me and start at the max dosage lol). I am far from done from the protocol so I will be sure to report back on my final results definitely. I feel like my average energy levels have increased subtly though, and my mood the last two evenings has been pretty good (find myself laughing a lot at silly TV shows and stuff).

 

[baccheion]

Fat can inhibit the glucose pathway especially if it is an unhelpful fat like MUFA, or PUFA and may increase carb requirements especially with someone with hypo. Also protein can cause lots of ammonia (not to mention lower blood sugar), which is why a lowish protein diet probably helps you. I notice the same things, because I still am a recovering hypo, and try to limit my protein to around 100g, and my breakfast is rarely more than 10-20g of protein for this reason.



Part of the reason I'm limiting how much I say to this 16 year old is that there's no telling how things could be different for someone younger, and I don't want someone that young to endanger themselves by going crazy with it without professional guidance. I will say that a quick search will tell you that generally anywhere from 20-50 mg is recommended a day for someone 18 or over and does not have Hashimoto's. For someone younger than 18, this number will be less, by how much, I'm not sure.

I believe potassium iodide is the most tolerated form of iodine. I take lugols which is a mixture of elemental iodine and potassium iodide. From what I recall, burtlancast posted a link showing that a concoction of pure potassium iodide (with no elemental iodine) had zero reports of side effects.

I want to find a local Iodine Dr. in my area but have not located one as of yet, thus I have not yet done the tests for TSH, T4, T3 etc. yet since starting the protocol. I have some older lab results somewhere I can dig up, from what I recall my T3 was fairly low on that. In fact, the Dr. who looked at it told me "you probably have mineral imbalances". She wouldn't really clarify which minerals though, and thinking back on it, suspect that mineral was probably Iodine (also magnesium, sodium, calcium). It would be nice to be able to find one soon so I can get kind of a before and after picture for sure. I ordered Dr. Brown's book off amazon and it arrives today, so I can have a look at it over the weekend to get more info. I think if necessary I can just order the tests online and they'll just assign me a Dr. for it. I believe its like $110 if you just want to do an iodine saturation & bromine toxicity test.

The first 2-3 days I got a few cold like symptoms (runny nose, a lot of fatigue and brain fog) that have now all but gone away except a little residual fatigue. I think you can mitigate even those first few days if you're smart (don't be dumb like me and start at the max dosage lol). I am far from done from the protocol so I will be sure to report back on my final results definitely. I feel like my average energy levels have increased subtly though, and my mood the last two evenings has been pretty good (find myself laughing a lot at silly TV shows and stuff).

I'm familiar with the protocol (doing it now). I'm just wondering what amount you take, effects, etc. I suppose you can PM if you'd rather not share publicly.

 

[Douglas Ek]

Hello everybody,

I am new to the forum. I am a 16 year old Dutch girl who found Peat after a history of extreme exercise and dieting.

I feel like Peat has helped me a lot. However, when I stopped with the extreme exercise, my menstrual issues increased.

I was on holiday this summer in England and got chronic diarrhea, muscle wasting, I couldn't get out of bed and was walking with my stomach bend and head down so I would not feel the stomach pain. I recently went to England again (Oxford, with school), and basically my entire trip was ruined by my period. I kept on vomiting, had no hunger, was grumpy all the time and my classmates and all of my teachers did not like being around me.

Yesterday I started my period again. I have no stomach pain but I keep on vomiting; it is so bad that I now have to skip tests in school so I can stay home. I have no hunger and my muscles feel non existent.

I am so done with all of this. My mother is going to plan an appointment with a GP. I said I absolutely do not want to start the pill at this age, I noticed that a lot of my female friends their behaviour changed went they started to use those pills. My mom thinks I keep exaggerating how bad the pill is. But I really don't want to take it. I keep crying about it and she does not understand it.

My diet is certainly not how I want it to be exactly, also because of my parents because they believe my eating habits are strange so I just conform to their wishes now.

I was hoping to find some advice here. If any of you have a more natural way to fix primarily the vomiting, and how you deal with muscle wasting and such. Anything is welcome, I am so done with all of it. Greetings.

Don't wanna give advice to a woman on something as birth control pills. that's your decision but my GF stopped them and she says it was the best decision. According to her they are the worst and made her really miserable so I would probably try that as a last resort. There has to be other things to do it naturally