Zachs
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haidut said:post 114549Zachs said:post 114125haidut said:post 114114FredSonoma said:post 114104 Interesting - just last night I wound up staying up about 2 hours later than usual, and also took some thyroid hormone about 2 hours later than usual, not thinking about it, just thinking that I usually take it before bed. I couldn't fall asleep for like an hour and a half - just lied there, which usually never happens. I got up and ate a bunch and then feel asleep at around 5:30 AM.
Should we consistently take thyroid at the same time every day? And does this mean I shouldn't have gotten up and eaten something?
I think if you take thyroid you should eat as well since you don't want to cause a shortage of fuel situation and raise stress hormones. Taking thyroid and eating at night should protect you from the stresses of darkness. Speaking of which, did people on the forum know that the "modern" sleeping habits we have are relatively recent and are mostly due to the mass effects of electricity and lighting? Up until the early 1900, and especially in rural areas, people slept in bi-phasic pattern. They would go to back at dusk, wake up around 2am, eat, maybe fool around a little bit, and then go back to bed to wake up at dawn. Sleeping was viewed as something that could not be sustained for 8-9 hours on a single meal before bed. Then again, life was a lot more brutal back then and food was probably not as calorie dense for most people so they had to wake up and refeed to "survive" the night. Anyways, just a thought.
Paleo advocates used this argument to justify the adrenalin surges people would be getting from the low carb, meat heavy diets. Imo that theory only comes from a few writing during the Victorian Era I believe and is in no way proven that that should be an optimal sleeping pattern. Most likely that would be caused by stress and/or the need to replenish fire if in a tribal setting. Optimally one should be able to store enough glucose to sleep deep for a good 8 hours at least. If your getting up to pee and feel awake around 2-4, that is a bad sign.
I don't think it is an optimal sleeping pattern, rather it is what people did to limit the damage of long nights combined with low temperatures, poor food availability and stress in general. I guess it is better to wake up and refeed than try to sleep through the stress hungry and in an adrenaline state.
Oh I agree. My first defense with waking up is sugar, salt and red light right in my eyes.
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