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Lustig
So I should live on coffee, butter, steak and eggs ?
Add starches to them.So I should live on coffee, butter, steak and eggs ?
There is a degree of faulty thinking here, one that makes nonsense out of "natural" foods that contain sugar. Before we forget, white sugar is something that is found in, say, fruit. Regarding just the sugar, it is equivalent. Yet, one would recommend eating fruit or having fruit juice, especially us in this forum. If what you say is true Agent207, then we would not be getting any nutrition from fruit or any food containing sugar/glucose. It becomes an absurd notion to suggest anything sweet that itself contains nutrients as well.White sugar sbould be avoided other than occasional consumption. It displaces nutrient rich food sources; I don't get why people who supplement magnesium or b vitamins, and then sourcing calories from refined sugar at the same time. Its a so nonsense..
We must consider the net result not just the mechanism in isolation. Protein and complex carbs also stimulate insulin, but with simple sugars you also get fructose helping with utilization without insulin. In context it is least stimulating of lipogenesis but most supportive of metabolic increase. That too contributing, as you said, to being leaner in spite of potential fat formation. Sugar (+nutrients) for the win.Sucrose increases triglyceride synthesis, without doubt.
Because it stimulate insulin, and insuline=lipogenesis. Whenever you eat carbs glycogenesis and lipogenesis start with same rate...both drived by insulin.
Probably that is why a high insulin sensitivity can make you lean.
This led to estimated macronutrient intakes of 20-40 % protein, 20-40 % carbohydrates, and 25-50 % fat.
Now what if I told you that these numbers and our current understanding of hunter-gatherer diets is bull****. Because it is, and we now know this thanks to the 12-year-long study by Berbesque et al recently published in the journal Evolution and Human Behavior
I agree with all of that!We must consider the net result not just the mechanism in isolation. Protein and complex carbs also stimulate insulin, but with simple sugars you also get fructose helping with utilization without insulin. In context it is least stimulating of lipogenesis but most supportive of metabolic increase. That too contributing, as you said, to being leaner in spite of potential fat formation. Sugar (+nutrients) for the win.
What a healthy looking guy.White refined sugar does not turn into fat and in fact white sugar makes you burn the body fat that you already have. The reason why white refined sugar/sucrose raises triglycerides is because the triglycerides are being released into the bloodstream from your own fat tissue because it is thermogenic and raises the RMR. It's not the sugar that's being converted into new triglycerides, thus, white sugar causes body fat loss, not gain, as long as you eat low fat. Sugar doesn't convert into fat because of de novo lipogenesis. Of course you shouldn't just use pure sucrose as your only carbohydrate source because you would lack nutrients. But it can be used to boost calories if needed, to make homemade condiments/desserts. This guy below eats lots of refined sugar and doesn't appear to have fatty liver. He may end up with liver problems overtime though as he is vegan and he may not convert the right proteins without animal protein.
Interesting!Have you seen this before?!
Eat first, share later: the foraging habits of Hadza hunter-gatherers
Its crazy!look at their honey intake,calorie intake..
LoL
White refined sugar does not turn into fat and in fact white sugar makes you burn the body fat that you already have. The reason why white refined sugar/sucrose raises triglycerides is because the triglycerides are being released into the bloodstream from your own fat tissue because it is thermogenic and raises the RMR. It's not the sugar that's being converted into new triglycerides, thus, white sugar causes body fat loss, not gain, as long as you eat low fat. Sugar doesn't convert into fat because of de novo lipogenesis. Of course you shouldn't just use pure sucrose as your only carbohydrate source because you would lack nutrients. But it can be used to boost calories if needed, to make homemade condiments/desserts. This guy below eats lots of refined sugar and doesn't appear to have fatty liver. He may end up with liver problems overtime though as he is vegan and he may not convert the right proteins without animal protein.
Absolutely not
Salmon coffee, salmon butter, salmon steak and salmon eggs. Organic.
What a healthy looking guy.