Can Someone Help Debunk This?

[pepzorpdorp]

 

[schultz]

"You wouldn't think twice about not giving your kid a budweiser, but you don't think twice about giving your kid a can of coke... but they're the same."

Ohhhhh, that explains why my kids are always drunk!

 

[raypeatclips]

"Most of the content in this video is based on Dr. Robert Lustig’s 2012 book “Fat Chance,” his 2007 presentation “Sugar: The Bitter Truth” and a 2011 paper he co-authored "Toward a Unifying Hypothesis of Metabolic Syndrome”."

 

[Such_Saturation]

Lustig

LOL

 

[johnwester130]

So I should live on coffee, butter, steak and eggs ?

 

[Such_Saturation]

So I should live on coffee, butter, steak and eggs ?

Absolutely not

Salmon coffee, salmon butter, salmon steak and salmon eggs. Organic.

 

[paymanz]

So I should live on coffee, butter, steak and eggs ?

Add starches to them.

 

[sprinter]

This guy's logic is flawed.

 

[Westside PUFAs]

White refined sugar does not turn into fat and in fact white sugar makes you burn the body fat that you already have. The reason why white refined sugar/sucrose raises triglycerides is because the triglycerides are being released into the bloodstream from your own fat tissue because it is thermogenic and raises the RMR. It's not the sugar that's being converted into new triglycerides, thus, white sugar causes body fat loss, not gain, as long as you eat low fat. Sugar doesn't convert into fat because of de novo lipogenesis. Of course you shouldn't just use pure sucrose as your only carbohydrate source because you would lack nutrients. But it can be used to boost calories if needed, to make homemade condiments/desserts. This guy below eats lots of refined sugar and doesn't appear to have fatty liver. He may end up with liver problems overtime though as he is vegan and he may not convert the right proteins without animal protein.

 

[Agent207]

White sugar sbould be avoided other than occasional consumption. It displaces nutrient rich food sources; I don't get why people who supplement magnesium or b vitamins, and then sourcing calories from refined sugar at the same time. Its a so nonsense..

 

[jb116]

White sugar sbould be avoided other than occasional consumption. It displaces nutrient rich food sources; I don't get why people who supplement magnesium or b vitamins, and then sourcing calories from refined sugar at the same time. Its a so nonsense..

There is a degree of faulty thinking here, one that makes nonsense out of "natural" foods that contain sugar. Before we forget, white sugar is something that is found in, say, fruit. Regarding just the sugar, it is equivalent. Yet, one would recommend eating fruit or having fruit juice, especially us in this forum. If what you say is true Agent207, then we would not be getting any nutrition from fruit or any food containing sugar/glucose. It becomes an absurd notion to suggest anything sweet that itself contains nutrients as well.

There are two other factors at play here: one, defining displacement, which is important. Some define displacement as dissolution and that becomes faulty. Since we ask the question, "do sugary nutritious foods accomplish their goals?" Of course they do. The more appropriate way to define displacement is by alluding to "actual displacement by choice." In other words, calorie and satiety need is fulfilled by empty sugar, which in this case would be defeating diet wise. So we modify the statement about sugar use to: "white sugar consumption should be in the presence of [other] nutrients." This leads us to the conclusion not that sugar is bad, but on the contrary as @Westside PUFAs pointed out, sugar indeed raises BMR. Just like in using thyroid, increasing metabolic rate without nutritional support will equate to probable bad results. Sugar is absolutely needed and necessary for energy. Not just the appetizing aspect but the actual work aspect. Those who do use sugar in conjunction with ergonomics are doing a very wise thing actually.

 

[paymanz]

Sucrose increases triglyceride synthesis, without doubt.

Because it stimulate insulin, and insuline=lipogenesis. Whenever you eat carbs glycogenesis and lipogenesis start with same rate...both drived by insulin.

Probably that is why a high insulin sensitivity can make you lean.

 

[jb116]

Sucrose increases triglyceride synthesis, without doubt.

Because it stimulate insulin, and insuline=lipogenesis. Whenever you eat carbs glycogenesis and lipogenesis start with same rate...both drived by insulin.

Probably that is why a high insulin sensitivity can make you lean.

We must consider the net result not just the mechanism in isolation. Protein and complex carbs also stimulate insulin, but with simple sugars you also get fructose helping with utilization without insulin. In context it is least stimulating of lipogenesis but most supportive of metabolic increase. That too contributing, as you said, to being leaner in spite of potential fat formation. Sugar (+nutrients) for the win.

 

[paymanz]

Have you seen this before?!
Eat first, share later: the foraging habits of Hadza hunter-gatherers

Its crazy!look at their honey intake,calorie intake..

This led to estimated macronutrient intakes of 20-40 % protein, 20-40 % carbohydrates, and 25-50 % fat.

Now what if I told you that these numbers and our current understanding of hunter-gatherer diets is bull****. Because it is, and we now know this thanks to the 12-year-long study by Berbesque et al recently published in the journal Evolution and Human Behavior

LoL

 

[paymanz]

We must consider the net result not just the mechanism in isolation. Protein and complex carbs also stimulate insulin, but with simple sugars you also get fructose helping with utilization without insulin. In context it is least stimulating of lipogenesis but most supportive of metabolic increase. That too contributing, as you said, to being leaner in spite of potential fat formation. Sugar (+nutrients) for the win.

I agree with all of that!

 

[DaveFoster]

White refined sugar does not turn into fat and in fact white sugar makes you burn the body fat that you already have. The reason why white refined sugar/sucrose raises triglycerides is because the triglycerides are being released into the bloodstream from your own fat tissue because it is thermogenic and raises the RMR. It's not the sugar that's being converted into new triglycerides, thus, white sugar causes body fat loss, not gain, as long as you eat low fat. Sugar doesn't convert into fat because of de novo lipogenesis. Of course you shouldn't just use pure sucrose as your only carbohydrate source because you would lack nutrients. But it can be used to boost calories if needed, to make homemade condiments/desserts. This guy below eats lots of refined sugar and doesn't appear to have fatty liver. He may end up with liver problems overtime though as he is vegan and he may not convert the right proteins without animal protein.

What a healthy looking guy.

 

[jb116]

Have you seen this before?!
Eat first, share later: the foraging habits of Hadza hunter-gatherers

Its crazy!look at their honey intake,calorie intake..


LoL

Interesting!

 

[superhuman]

White refined sugar does not turn into fat and in fact white sugar makes you burn the body fat that you already have. The reason why white refined sugar/sucrose raises triglycerides is because the triglycerides are being released into the bloodstream from your own fat tissue because it is thermogenic and raises the RMR. It's not the sugar that's being converted into new triglycerides, thus, white sugar causes body fat loss, not gain, as long as you eat low fat. Sugar doesn't convert into fat because of de novo lipogenesis. Of course you shouldn't just use pure sucrose as your only carbohydrate source because you would lack nutrients. But it can be used to boost calories if needed, to make homemade condiments/desserts. This guy below eats lots of refined sugar and doesn't appear to have fatty liver. He may end up with liver problems overtime though as he is vegan and he may not convert the right proteins without animal protein.

Hmm i havent heard this before. Are you sure about the claim that the reason sugar raises triglycerides is because its getting released from bloodstream from own bodyfat ? if thats the case its pretty awesome

 

[sladerunner69]

Absolutely not

Salmon coffee, salmon butter, salmon steak and salmon eggs. Organic.

silly silly boy. the salmon popuations are dwindling, we can't promote a diet that would squeeze the mighty wild salmon into extinction...

 

[sladerunner69]

What a healthy looking guy.

An arm sleeved in childish tattoos just screams "respect for my organism"