Before Any Question "Is It Good/bad For. " Context & Balance

[Xisca]

OP's rule is that it is a thread ONLY about context & balance, not about right or wrong nor anything else (there is room else where). Please answer there only if you have read all the thread before, and if you have some interesting quote or thought in the positive direction. If you want to argue, keep it in your head or invite friends at home...
Please respect it.
And if somebody breaks these rules, please ignore totally!
And please @charlie help...

Wish to gain this (all about context) :
¿What context correspond to gettting results from a Peat diet (if this is eating like him)?
¿Can we adapt part of this diet, and how to not destabilise it (and ourselves)?
¿who should be careful, so as to not get worse?
¿How to know this?

This thread is mainly to gather quotes, and to understand how to ask questions (to others or oneself) in context or how to understand answers.

It is to avoid Gbolduev saying often things like :
"I understand that some people simply don't understand what I am saying. - I don't know how to explain it easier. - You don't understand anything that I write - NOT SURE Why you don't understand this. "

We cannot ask questions such as "is this bad, or good or what would you do to..." without doing the job of understanding the past answers. Let's ask more questions in context!

 

[Xisca]

My conclusion after reading the recent discussions, is that context & balance are more than what we are used to take into account. Let's blame school for this! Often for me, put balance in practise is a real puzzle for my brain ! wooo... "When this is high, this can lower, there are antagonists and also agonists... Or is it because my receptors are too sensitive, or not enough!"

When we do not understand, we tend to:
- be triggered by old school shames!
- think the other is wrong and tell it too quick.
- skip context...
- want the answer from the same person, though "google is your friend"
- ignore the good search engine of the forum!
- think we have no time to search, and that others have time...

So it ended often in "But you said this...", and "no I did not, this was for another context..."
And also "But this study said this...". I have seen enough evidence that you can have other results for different people or a different country. Instead of arguing, let's take ourselves the time to use the big wikis of the web! If we have no time, let's not take other's time. How long did it took for surgeons to accept to wash their hands and tools? Try it, even if it does not match your paradigm, or at least let others wash their hands with soap.

 

[Xisca]

Peat is also all about context, and Peat is not superman, he cannot talk about 2 things at the same time, so you cannot follow anything blindly, even his diet. He followed some causes and effects chains, thanks for it! In the "perceive, think, act", maybe thinking is bad, but maybe the first to be bad is the first: PERCEIVE. So we keep repeating the 3 stages or stay paralized at the first.

Ho BTW, what's about laughing at mistakes, changing is already difficult, and laughing in the sense of some bully is not helping. At all. Our ideas will be laughed at in 2 centuries or less! Laughing at ourselves, and at others when kindly done is fine and lowers cortisol... And my favorite hormone is harmony from oxytocin. The way somebody will admit some mistake also depends on knowing how others will react. I will honour everybody be brave enough to say "I was wrong" or "Sorry". Actually, it will only recognize another wider context! Skip if too philosophical...

Of course you can disagree with some quotes! But they are not mine and Gbolduev said he wanted to answer only in the Q&A topic, and if he wants of course.
If you disagree, please not here.
- Take the quote and ask Gbolduev at the right place.
Just to not force him answer here, as he does not want to. Respect.

If not controvertial, please do answer if you wish.
- for example we can elaborate or look ourselves to precise some informations by looking on the web etc.
- help me find some quotes... either for here about context and balance, or in another thread...

 

[Xisca]

So now... it looks like one quote but it is a harvest, foraging along threads... A few things gbolduev kept explaining...

"Everyone is different. Everyone has different body chemistry. And Co2 regulates acidity of the blood. People can be more alkaline or more acidic. Depending on that you will have different reactions to acid or alkaline forming substances.
You need to know what your balance is, what is going on with your hormones not just eat someone else's diet.
To know what is your balance you need to know arterial blood gases and you can't just test bicarb in blood alone or CO2 alone or bicarb and CO2.
Tested about 100 people the last month for arterial blood gases:
80% --high CO2
20% low CO2.
In respiratory acidosis which is 80% of population, your metabolic rate is lowered on purpose not to produce extra CO2 from metabolism.
Body needs to be balanced, and for some CO2 is good for some poison, for some bicarb is good for some poison. For some salt is good for some poison.
It is all about balance, there are no bad things that are made inside of your body. Serotonin is not bad, nor estrogen. They are made inside of your body, but their balance could be bad, and not from one side only, it could be low estrogen and high estrogen problems, high serotonin or low serotonin problems.
People age from imbalances not from low serotonin or high serotonin. You will age and die if you have both low or high cortisol. Your killer will be different that is all. In one case bacteria will kill you and in other virus.
you need to eat differently for different body chemistry. A human needs to eat to what he feels to eat, that is my point and listen to himself. And never eat some made up diets.
My suggestion is before listening to diet preachers, test your blood first. I mean to me it was obvious that they would be false. Since we all have totally different life styles. One smokes, another lifts, third sits at the computer, another drinks.
I dont tell all people to do the same thing. I tell people to get tested and see for themselves
SO my saying is go get tested as there are at least many cases of pH balance and metabolism and it is silly to say ALL people are this and ALL people are that. That is my point which I try to express here. High and low serotonin people, high and low PTH people, high and low estrogen people. High and low thyroid people. WE are all different. That is my point."

 

[Xisca]

I made this thread from an original post else where, after reading this: "Being forced to drink 2 litres of milk a day looks like a curse."
Of course it can be a joke, but taking it as an example, well...
lol do not answer my questions below!
- in a diet you are forced to eat a certain way. But it has to be given to you by somebody who works with you and your context.
- Or else you have to do it alone and be able to apreciate the context, and go your way with trial and errors.
- why 2 liters? we are different.
- what milk? what animal? Raw, pasterurized or UHT are ok? Fat?
- and if you have allergy?

Up to you to follow what is a curse, if you expect results in the long term.

"I told sugar and milk is good. I recommended progesterone to people. "

If you read above, there is no absolute good of course. So you have no problem, sugar and milk are still good, according to context.
And you cannot recommend progesterone to people without being a specialist.

Honestly, I will not throw the first stone, nor the second or any, because I did the same!
I promised myself I will no more!

 

[Manwe]

So now... it looks like one quote but it is a harvest, foraging along threads... A few things gbolduev kept explaining...

"Everyone is different. Everyone has different body chemistry. And Co2 regulates acidity of the blood. People can be more alkaline or more acidic. Depending on that you will have different reactions to acid or alkaline forming substances.
You need to know what your balance is, what is going on with your hormones not just eat someone else's diet.
To know what is your balance you need to know arterial blood gases and you can't just test bicarb in blood alone or CO2 alone or bicarb and CO2.
Tested about 100 people the last month for arterial blood gases:
80% --high CO2
20% low CO2.
In respiratory acidosis which is 80% of population, your metabolic rate is lowered on purpose not to produce extra CO2 from metabolism.
Body needs to be balanced, and for some CO2 is good for some poison, for some bicarb is good for some poison. For some salt is good for some poison.
It is all about balance, there are no bad things that are made inside of your body. Serotonin is not bad, nor estrogen. They are made inside of your body, but their balance could be bad, and not from one side only, it could be low estrogen and high estrogen problems, high serotonin or low serotonin problems.
People age from imbalances not from low serotonin or high serotonin. You will age and die if you have both low or high cortisol. Your killer will be different that is all. In one case bacteria will kill you and in other virus.
you need to eat differently for different body chemistry. A human needs to eat to what he feels to eat, that is my point and listen to himself. And never eat some made up diets.
My suggestion is before listening to diet preachers, test your blood first. I mean to me it was obvious that they would be false. Since we all have totally different life styles. One smokes, another lifts, third sits at the computer, another drinks.
I dont tell all people to do the same thing. I tell people to get tested and see for themselves"

Of course this is about right or wrong. Someone claims 80% of all people have respiratory acidosis. Either that's true, or it's not. Very simple. His only "source" is " I have testedt it". If his small n sample finds that 80% of peole have acidosis, then larger n obervational studies should get roughly the same results. They don't. So, either he's wrong (lying), or simply has another defintion of respiratory acidosis than everyone else in the scientific community. Facts matter! You don't have to choose between context and facts. Context cannot exist without facts!

 

[Xisca]

"And that it is way more complex. One guy drinks alcohol and another smokes cigarettes, third lifts , and another one jerks off non stop. ALL of them have the same chemistry? LMAO of course not and diets will be different, since they are screwing their balance in different ways."

About making tests personally:
"I am giving you this information for no cost from my heart and I swear that what I am saying is the truth. Maybe my population is not big, but it is something real, at least for me. These are the results that I got and no one can take this away from me. I am not selling anything to anyone, and I am not giving advice or helping anyone."

Who said these will know lol
" "If you can't explain it to a six year old you don't understand it yourself"...Einstein
There are a lot of very knowledgeable people here, but very few good teachers, I find."
¿In how many years? Add some context of time and Einstein is right!

"xx or xy has good ideas but in my mind explains them not correctly."
(we never say this of ourselves, or who does?)
A bit of humor with myself, as I am always hard towards those poor teachers too!

 

[Xisca]

It was a big one for me to understand...
"there is a huge difference between deficiency and regulatory levels."

"Of course You can be vit D deficient no problem." Vs "MY body downregulated"

"I say that cortisol and serotonin are raised in certain situations to save you. But they are raised for purpose not as a mistake."

When it is about a regulation coming from the body, examples: "Cortisol is raised for survival to get you protein when pancreas go down. Serotonin is raised to support brain function."

 

[Xisca]

On "Is a peatish diet good for you?":

"If you are a fast oxidizer as your practioner was telling you, then no wonder Peats diet works for you. Fast oxidizer needs copper and calcium and they usually run low on sugar. Peats diet is ideal for you in this case. But you are a minority. I always tell them to do Peats diet, it saved me time explaining. And all of them do well on Peats diet.
calcium lowers metabolism and copper lowers metabolism.
Peats diet increases sodium potassium ratio.
So for people who have lower calcium and low sodium to potassium ratio, Ray peats diet is ideal.
Ray Peats diet is nothing but one sided diet for certain body chemistry for a certain period of time. It is not ideally balanced, since copper and calcium in that diet prevails, and copper zinc ratio will be always impaired and calcium magnesium ratio will also be impaired in the end.

So basically I chose diets that matched many metabolic types and then I would just tell people to do this or that diet according to their type. And that cost no money.

Also you can go from one balance to another, and lets say you do Peat for a while and boom then you will feel bad, since you will go into slow oxidation and Peat won't be good for you anymore."