What Would You Suggest For BPH Prostate Trouble?

[vulture]

I'm just gonna drop this thing for second time here to wait for feedback:
Mesterolone (DHT) treatment of aging male syndrome improves lower urinary tract symptoms
Mesterolone Treatment Of Aging Male Syndrome Improves Lower Urinary Tract Symptoms

 

[Obi-wan]

Orange juice

Nutritional value per 248 g (1 cup)
Energy 468.6 kJ (112.0 kcal)
Carbohydrates
25.79
Sugars 20.83
Dietary fiber 0.50
Fat
0.50
Saturated 0.06
Monounsaturated 0.089
Polyunsaturated 0.099
Protein
1.74
Vitamins Quantity
%DV†
Vitamin A equiv.
3%
25 μg
Vitamin A 496 IU
Thiamine (B1)
19%
0.223 mg
Riboflavin (B2)
6%
0.074 mg
Niacin (B3)
7%
0.992 mg
Vitamin B6
8%
0.099 mg
Folate (B9)
19%
74 μg
Vitamin B12
0%
0.00 μg
Vitamin C
149%
124.0 mg
Vitamin D
0%
0.0 IU
Vitamin E
1%
0.10 mg
Vitamin K
0%
0.2 μg
Minerals Quantity
%DV†
Calcium
3%
27 mg
Iron
4%
0.50 mg
Magnesium
8%
27 mg
Phosphorus
6%
42 mg
Potassium
11%
496 mg
Sodium
0%
2 mg
Zinc
1%
0.12 mg

1 cup of orange juice is 496 mg's of potassium

 

[Obi-wan]

I'm just gonna drop this thing for second time here to wait for feedback:
Mesterolone (DHT) treatment of aging male syndrome improves lower urinary tract symptoms
Mesterolone Treatment Of Aging Male Syndrome Improves Lower Urinary Tract Symptoms

Problem is once you have prostate cancer DHT creates polyamines causing proliferation. That's why I am on androgen depravation therapy...

 

[Obi-wan]

" However, selenomethionine is particularly effective because it also inhibits polyamine synthesis and is preferentially absorbed by the prostate (because of high polyamine demand). This high incorporation of methionine is not just theoretical, but actually forms a practical imaging technique." -THIS is THE statement for prostate.

Sorry @ecstatichamster for taking over your thread

 

[vulture]

Problem is once you have prostate cancer DHT creates polyamines causing proliferation. That's why I am on androgen depravation therapy...

have you ever seen a study using DHT and subjects with an actual prostate cancer? what was the outcome?

 

[Obi-wan]

have you ever seen a study using DHT and subjects with an actual prostate cancer? what was the outcome?

No

 

[vulture]

No

Have you seen an study of an animal (or human) with cancer and administration of DHT and assessing growth rate or something?

 

[Obi-wan]

Have you seen an study of an animal (or human) with cancer and administration of DHT and assessing growth rate or something?

That's a @Travis question

 

[Travis]

That's a @Travis question

Androgen receptors are differentially distributed and I think you'd expected increased growth, and hence cancer, of certain organs only. I think under most conditions a little extra androgens can be helpful, but they also seem to reliably cause acne—dairy & bodybuilder acne—at very high levels.

 

[Iceman2016]

So, to recap and to bring some of the theoretical aspects of this discussion and bring them into the practical realm, the following in part or combination should be useful in reversing bph symptoms:

- artemisinin/artemesia
- TL4 antagonists (pau d'arco?)
- increasing ratio of potassium to sodium
- going easy on or limiting cow dairy
- combo of gamma E and alpha E succinate
- selenomethionine
- zinc
- chamomile/nettle tea

As far as people actually having a full blown case of symptomatic bph and having reversed or resolved it, it seems nettles seems to be a big one.

My own personal concerns are urine flow being slowed significantly but I don't have issues with needing to go too often or having to wake up in the middle of the night, etc.

Has anyone had any experiences with prostate massage for shrinking an enlarged prostate? I've read about it being effective but would like some consensus before daring to go that route .

 

[Daniel11]

So, to recap and to bring some of the theoretical aspects of this discussion and bring them into the practical realm, the following in part or combination should be useful in reversing bph symptoms:

- artemisinin/artemesia
- TL4 antagonists (pau d'arco?)
- increasing ratio of potassium to sodium
- going easy on or limiting cow dairy
- combo of gamma E and alpha E succinate
- selenomethionine
- zinc
- chamomile/nettle tea

As far as people actually having a full blown case of symptomatic bph and having reversed or resolved it, it seems nettles seems to be a big one.

My own personal concerns are urine flow being slowed significantly but I don't have issues with needing to go too often or having to wake up in the middle of the night, etc.

Has anyone had any experiences with prostate massage for shrinking an enlarged prostate? I've read about it being effective but would like some consensus before daring to go that route .

Prostate massage is good, with castor oil...

 

[vulture]

So, to recap and to bring some of the theoretical aspects of this discussion and bring them into the practical realm, the following in part or combination should be useful in reversing bph symptoms:

- artemisinin/artemesia
- TL4 antagonists (pau d'arco?)
- increasing ratio of potassium to sodium
- going easy on or limiting cow dairy
- combo of gamma E and alpha E succinate
- selenomethionine
- zinc
- chamomile/nettle tea

As far as people actually having a full blown case of symptomatic bph and having reversed or resolved it, it seems nettles seems to be a big one.

My own personal concerns are urine flow being slowed significantly but I don't have issues with needing to go too often or having to wake up in the middle of the night, etc.

Has anyone had any experiences with prostate massage for shrinking an enlarged prostate? I've read about it being effective but would like some consensus before daring to go that route .

What I've read (traditional western medicine) is that it's a bad idea to massage a prostate with an infection (some BPHs seems to be related to infections), because of risk of infection spreading.
But I've not read serious studies on that

Prostate massage is good, with castor oil...

Are you serious on that? why do you say it's good?

 

[Daniel11]

What I've read (traditional western medicine) is that it's a bad idea to massage a prostate with an infection (some BPHs seems to be related to infections), because of risk of infection spreading.
But I've not read serious studies on that


Are you serious on that? why do you say it's good?

Because it helps, i would think improving blood and lymphatic circulation would help everything, if your concerned about infection colloidal silver is great, but i would only use this brand.

MesoSilver | Purest Colloids

 

[vulture]

Because it helps, i would think improving blood and lymphatic circulation would help everything, if your concerned about infection colloidal silver is great, but i would only use this brand.

MesoSilver | Purest Colloids

Painful ejaculation twice in 6 months, urethra burning once in a while, sometimes (few times a day) some strange sensations near perineum.

 

[ecstatichamster]

Painful ejaculation twice in 6 months, urethra burning once in a while, sometimes (few times a day) some strange sensations near perineum.

urethra burning very occasionally happens to me. It used to happen more often if I drank a lot of liquids and then ejaculated. If I drain my bladder first, not so much of a problem. It is acute inflammation and it subsides quickly but often requires a bout of frequent urination, maybe 3 or 4 times, to really get rid of all the urine in my bladder and then then the urethra quiets down. Now it hardly every happens to me.

 

[Daniel11]

Painful ejaculation twice in 6 months, urethra burning once in a while, sometimes (few times a day) some strange sensations near perineum.

Have you had your PSA level tested recently, good to see how it changes in response to what your doing.

As mentioned nettles root is good for men.

 

[Daniel11]

https://www.walkinlab.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=psa

 

[vulture]

Have you had your PSA level tested recently, good to see how it changes in response to what your doing.

As mentioned nettles root is good for men.

never checked PSA
It doesn't seem to be actually bigger, at least I see no reduced urine flow (managed to measure it).
Problem is urine culture came out negative.
I'm 30 years old, btw.

I tried red maca. Never felt something relevant at it. I'm thinking raising dosage. There were studies saying that it reduces prostate size on rats

 

[Obi-wan]

PSA is just a simple blood test. Should have it checked

 

[Iceman2016]

What I've read (traditional western medicine) is that it's a bad idea to massage a prostate with an infection (some BPHs seems to be related to infections), because of risk of infection spreading.
But I've not read serious studies on that


Are you serious on that? why do you say it's good?

The concern with prostate massage that I've read about is that the prostate gland is inervated with tiny sacs (acini) that if filled in with stones or calcifications (as is supposedly the case over time) then a massaging or pressing of the prostate risk small tears and damaging the prostate soft tissues. This could theoretically lead to scarring as well as the obvious spreading of infection as was already mentioned. This is the reason why I've been hesitant in trying it myself. Of course, there are many people who utilize prostate massage regardless and seem to not have any problems.