Piety made me insane. Religion is a brain-devouring cancer.

[ThazMYchocolate]

Pray for the scales to fall off your eyes. Look at the scriptures you posted, it goes from fear to praise, fear to worship, fear to righteousness. Does that even make sense? Change fear to revere and then Praise God for showing you the Truth of how Loving and Amazing He is.

revere - to show devoted deferential honor to : regard as worthy of great honor

From blueletterbible.com

yārē' ( the Hebrew root word for at least once instance of "fear" )

1. to fear, revere, be afraid
   1. (Qal)
      1. to fear, be afraid
      2. to stand in awe of, be awed
      3. to fear, reverence, honour, respect
   2. (Niphal)
      1. to be fearful, be dreadful, be feared
      2. to cause astonishment and awe, be held in awe
      3. to inspire reverence or godly fear or awe
   3. (Piel) to make afraid, terrify
2. (TWOT) to shoot, pour

יָרֵא yârêʼ, yaw-ray'; a primitive root; to fear; morally to revere; causatively to frighten:—affright, be (make) afraid, dread(-ful), (put in) fear(-ful, -fully, -ing), (be had in) reverence(-end), × see, terrible (act, -ness, thing).

I tend to agree with your stance that it is more of a reverence as well, it doesn't make sense for us to be afraid in a loving relationship.

 

[coffeelover]

This will be a peek into one of my neuroses.

I was raised Christian and still am a (reluctant) Christian. I was reared in puritanical morality. I was raised to be obedient, to fathers, teachers, pastors, the State. When puberty came, with the lust for life and the healthy rebellion that accompanies it, I began to download countless obscure mp3s and arcane video game ROMs. I live in a third would country. Media is expensive here, particularly the esoteric media I like to consume. But thanks to piracy my pop culture erudition was quickly expanding. The flower of my soul was blossoming beautifully. Strange shapes and novel hues. We are all singular specimens as we follow our bliss. Here and nowhere else lies the glory of Creation.

Then came the night terrors. I rebuked the spectre in the name of Jesus and it fled. Then I knew I had to make a bonfire of the vanities. All those pre-baptism testimonies had fed me the script. My Radiohead and Pixies CDs and my Castlevania and Final Fantasy games went into the flames and my media collection was deleted into oblivion. I was 16. A few years later I learned that a lot of pious Christians do listen to secular bands and play vydia. That there's no need for such strictness. So I decided to get back into those things. But I had to pirate. I asked my pastors and my online Christian father figures what I should do. They all said it's a sin because of Romans 13. A passage I wish I could rip from the Bible and burn. I would strangle the apostle Paul to death if I could. The scrawny rambling weirdo.

That's the verdict with all the Christian luminaries. The simpering Protestant pastors and the Catholic priests in their solemn cassocks. They all sternly forbid file-sharing. I thought Christians were supposed to share but turns out it's against the law. John MacArthur outright said somewhere that Christians in the USSR should follow Soviet laws with utmost strictness. Which is insanity. Those laws are not meant to be followed. All Soviet citizens knew it. These laws are de jure but not the facto. How does this low IQ old geezer pastor does not know this. Probably because he's a low IQ old geezer. And yet he's a leader with a numerous flock. And there are many like him. Blind leading the blind.

Zizek the shrewd communist luminary talks about this. Some laws back in socialist Eastern Europe were not meant to be heeded. But nobody said so. You had to know it. That's what Zizek says. There's the law on paper and there's the tacit law and the tacit law is this: you do not follow the law on paper. A matter of survival. No one talks about it, everybody knows it. I tried talking about this subject with Christians online. Lenghty debates. What a bunch of f%cking lemmings. You can't get a single point into their thick skulls. They cling to the Normie Catechism tooth and nail. Treat you a leper if you stray one inch. "It's wrong because it's wrong and you know it."

Those Christians are mostly American, by the way. Most Christians on the anglophone internet are. And this has stoked my hate for America. I used to love America and I now hate it. The fascination is gone. A country of hard-hearted boors. Philistines and Pharisees the lot of them. The Christians anyway. I'm beginning to sympathize with liberals. Never thought the day would come.

Anyway my scrupulosity has grown byzantine. It's grown so bad I want to kill myself. I feel guilty for everything but I know my guilt is ridiculous. I feel guilty for pirating Windows but I know Bill Gates is outright killing millions and millions of people. I know my guilt is ret@rded. This causes me great shame. My dignity is gone. It has been destroyed. Cannot even walk with good posture. I am a downcast man. Cast into the pit of ignominy. A promising youth turned neurotic wreck.

The guilt has grown weird. A tyrant in my brain, a sadistic superego. Because I know too well that the law is aligned with the beast system, I feel guilty when wandering into vaguely clandestine places. I feel guilty for using Yandex or buying things at stores in the outskirts of the city. This is a ret@rded guilt. It should be the other way around. My conscience should approve of using the clandestine website and helping the little store. But my conscience is ret@rded. Forgive my language. Only harsh language is faithful to reality here. I don't want to soften it. I want to be sincere. It was made ret@rded by Christianity. Christianity has implanted a cruel and inhuman tyrant in my mind. If an activity is noble and worth pursuing this tyrant will punish me. If the activity is base and vulgar and a complete waste of time the tyrant will leave me alone.

Jesus thundered against the Pharisees but the Pharisees were simply pious Jews. Today's pious Catholics are exactly like the Pharisees of Gospel times, obsessed with rules and ever scowling at those who would transgress the smallest of those rules. But where's the new Jesus who will set them straight? Around Jesus' new religion a new Pharisaism coalesced. Who is the new prophet who will splinter this stultifying crust that has accrued around the core of Jesus' message? Who will rail against pastors who pontificate against jaywalking even as they live in sumptuous mansions? Against the priests who pontificate against file-sharing even as their seminary colleagues thrust their boners into little boys' mouths? I have to use strong language. Let's not temper the language. Let's speak like the Old Testament prophets. Let's use blunt words. Let's paint a realistic picture so that the truth may set us free. Who will deliver Christian morality from the smegma of scrupulosity that now covers its every jot and tittle and restore it to a true law of love rather than scruple, of empathy rather than stiff-lipped legalism?

Zoom out and the pattern becomes clear. Religions are traps. Burning gospels of love soon wax cold and turn to stone, tablets of stone, hard and heavy decalogues with their endless webs of talmudic implications. Endless chains of moralistic implications which are the chains of a prison. Syllogism by syllogism Catholic moralists arrive at the conclusion that every act that can be named is a sin. A sin to then be classified into mortal or venial. Holiness is self-obliteration. No new prophet will arrive to overthrow the current system. Jesus might as well be an alien. Christianity might as well be an alien deception. And so here we are. Remain a mere pew-warmer and you stay within the walls of orthodoxy, but follow the religion as strictly as you can and you end up a lunatic. And then you begin to wonder if this Jesus guy is really all that loving. Something here is off. There's something wrong with Christianity.

I think you are really a Reformed Christian at heart. Read the writings of Martin Luther and other reformers. Have you read all of Romanss? How about Romans 8? Legalism has no place for the Christian. We are free in Christ from all that burden of guilt you talk about. He has obeyed perfectly for us so we are no longer enslaved to the law. Please read and study more of the Bible and hopefully reformers before discarding your (reluctant) faith. Don't learn about it through observing the actions of corrupt and sinful humans.

 

[Perry Staltic]

I tend to agree with your stance that it is more of a reverence as well, it doesn't make sense for us to be afraid in a loving relationship.

They're actually two separate things. Fear first which humbles the soul and causes submission to God's will, then reverence because of God's grace that forgives and banishes the fear

 

[Perry Staltic]

yārē' ( the Hebrew root word for at least once instance of "fear" )

1. to fear, revere, be afraid
   1. (Qal)
      1. to fear, be afraid
      2. to stand in awe of, be awed
      3. to fear, reverence, honour, respect
   2. (Niphal)
      1. to be fearful, be dreadful, be feared
      2. to cause astonishment and awe, be held in awe
      3. to inspire reverence or godly fear or awe
   3. (Piel) to make afraid, terrify
2. (TWOT) to shoot, pour

יָרֵא yârêʼ, yaw-ray'; a primitive root; to fear; morally to revere; causatively to frighten:—affright, be (make) afraid, dread(-ful), (put in) fear(-ful, -fully, -ing), (be had in) reverence(-end), × see, terrible (act, -ness, thing).

Hebrews 12:21 says that when Moses saw God descending on Mt Sinai that he was terrified out of his mind. And then goes on to say that we have approached something much, much greater, ie Mt Zion, and by implication something much, much more fearful.

And so fearful was the visible display, Moses said, I am frightened (ἔκφοβος) and terrified (ἔντρομος). Hebrews 12:21

G1630 ἔκφοβος ekphobos (ek'-fo-ɓos) adj.
frightened out of one's wits.

G1790 ἔντρομος entromos (en'-tro-mos) adj.
terrified.

"Twas grace that taught my heart to fear,
And grace my fears relieved;"

 

[charlie]

Hebrews 12:21 says that when Moses saw God descending on Mt Sinai that he was terrified out of his mind. And then goes on to say that we have approached something much, much greater, ie Mt Zion, and by implication something much, much more fearful.

And so fearful was the visible display, Moses said, I am frightened (ἔκφοβος) and terrified (ἔντρομος). Hebrews 12:21

G1630 ἔκφοβος ekphobos (ek'-fo-ɓos) adj.
frightened out of one's wits.

G1790 ἔντρομος entromos (en'-tro-mos) adj.
terrified.

"Twas grace that taught my heart to fear,
And grace my fears relieved;"

Great job! You found one of the few places that the word fear is appropriate. But many of the places, it is not.

 

[charlie]

@Perry Staltic Lets get to the meat of the matter, Perry. Do you know of the 3 earth ages? Do you know and teach the katabole? Do you know there were two bags of water in the garden? Do you know there are 2 tribulations? Do you know satans tribulation got shortened to 5 months? Do you know what the Key of David is? Do you know what happens when satan gets kicked out of Heaven and arrives here de facto? If you do not know these, then you are literally teaching satan worship just like the mainstream churches are,,, and you will lead people right into satans open arms. Think about this deeply, its important.

I challenge everyone to do the book of Revelation and also the first 6 chapters of Genesis with Pastor Arnold Murray of the Shepherds Chapel. If you do not know of anything that I have spoken about above and are in the mainstream churches, then you are being led right into satans open arms. God said the WHOLE world would whore after him, except a small remnant. That is why I do not expect much of you to hear this.

Here is where you can find the books of the bible on MP3:

MediaFire

MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.

www.mediafire.com

Topical studies you can find here:

MediaFire

MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.

www.mediafire.com

And you can search on youtube and find the videos if you like. This is the most important gift I can ever give you, I pray you will receive it.

 

[Momma]

@Perry Staltic Lets get to the meat of the matter, Perry. Do you know of the 3 earth ages? Do you know and teach the katabole? Do you know there were two bags of water in the garden? Do you know there are 2 tribulations? Do you know satans tribulation got shortened to 5 months? Do you know what happens when satan gets kicked out of Heaven and arrives here de facto? If you do not know these, then you are literally teaching satan worship just like the mainstream churches are,,, and you will lead people right into satans open arms. Think about this deeply, its important.

I challenge everyone to do the book of Revelation and also the first 6 chapters of Genesis with Pastor Arnold Murray of the Shepherds Chapel. If you do not know of anything that I have spoken about above and are in the mainstream churches, then you are being led right into satans open arms. God said the WHOLE world would whore after him, except a small remnant. That is why I do not expect much of you to hear this.

Here is where you can find the books of the bible on MP3:

MediaFire

MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.

www.mediafire.com

Topical studies you can find here:

MediaFire

MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.

www.mediafire.com

And you can search on youtube and find the videos if you like. This is the most important gift I can ever give you, I pray you will receive it.

Is he kin to pastor and missionary Andrew Murray?

 

[charlie]

missionary Andrew Murray

I have never heard his name mentioned.

 

[charlie]

Here is "The Season" where you can find all the books done by Shepherds Chapel, and also the written notes by Roger Christopherson who studies with the chapel.

OLD TESTAMENT, theseason.org

Bible Study, Christian, kenites, King James Bible, Christ, Jesus, God, End Times, Prophecy, Tribulation

theseason.org

 

[ThazMYchocolate]

Do you know of the 3 earth ages? Do you know and teach the katabole? Do you know there were two bags of water in the garden? Do you know there are 2 tribulations? Do you know satans tribulation got shortened to 5 months? Do you know what the Key of David is? Do you know what happens when satan gets kicked out of Heaven and arrives here de facto? If you do not know these, then you are literally teaching satan worship just like the mainstream churches are,,, and you will lead people right into satans open arms. Think about this deeply, its important.

I can't say that I have a clue about this myself...2 bags of water? Please elaborate on these subjects, even if briefly where to find out what you are referring to.

 

[charlie]

I can't say that I have a clue about this myself

If you learned from mainstream religion I would not expect you to have a clue, because satan runs the religions as it is Written through the 4 hidden dynasties.

Please show me where an apple is mentioned in the garden. Can you point it out in scripture? I will save you some time, you wont be able to find it. Its a satanic made up doctrine, to slight you away from the Truth.

Want to know what really happened in the garden? Read the link below with open eyes and open ears. Set aside anything you have learned before and discern with an open mind. Pray for God to allow you to receive it if its His Will.

The Story Of Adam And Eve In The Garden Of Eden

The Adam and Eve story does not concern an apple, but mystery and betrayal. Their failure to adhere to God led them to sin, we have much to learn from their story.

worldeventsandthebible.com

 

[ThazMYchocolate]

If you learned from mainstream religion I would not expect you to have a clue, because satan runs the religions as it is Written through the 4 hidden dynasties.

Please show me where an apple is mentioned in the garden. Can you point it out in scripture? I will save you some time, you wont be able to find it. Its a satanic made up doctrine, to slight you away from the Truth.

Want to know what really happened in the garden? Read the link below with open eyes and open ears. Set aside anything you have learned before and discern with an open mind. Pray for God to allow you to receive it if its His Will.

The Story Of Adam And Eve In The Garden Of Eden

The Adam and Eve story does not concern an apple, but mystery and betrayal. Their failure to adhere to God led them to sin, we have much to learn from their story.

worldeventsandthebible.com

Charlie,

You don't have to be so hostile. I am genuinely curious about what you mentioned. It is no fault of mine that I was brought up the way I was and that churches are ridiculous these days. I know the bible doesn't say Adam and Eve ate an "apple". Just because I have learned a lot of 'mainstream' things doesn't make me a fool, I didn't say I ascribe to and blindly believe all the 'normal' things others do. I am in a place where I am struggling myself, I have been going through some really tough things and I am upset that God doesn't want to help things that I think are pretty basic. I believe in God, but I don't know why he is letting such important things go so badly for me.

 

[charlie]

You don't have to be so hostile.

If it comes across that way it is not meant to. I am done with the satanic doctrine that is pumped out around here and will not let it stand anymore. The Fire can indeed feel hostile, do not take it as such.

I am in a place where I am struggling myself, I have been going through some really tough things and I am upset that God doesn't want to help things that I think are pretty basic. I believe in God, but I don't know why he is letting such important things go so badly for me.

Lord, we ask that you send help for @ThazMYchocolate. Your child is crying out to you, show him/her your Face and send the Spirit of Comfort. In Jesus name we Pray. Amen.

 

[TheSir]

If you do not know these, then you are literally teaching satan worship

Are you saying that his lack of esoteric knowledge makes him a satanist? That in order to have faith and to teach faith, one must be initiated with the correct book knowledge?

 

[sleepson]

Charlie,

You don't have to be so hostile. I am genuinely curious about what you mentioned. It is no fault of mine that I was brought up the way I was and that churches are ridiculous these days. I know the bible doesn't say Adam and Eve ate an "apple". Just because I have learned a lot of 'mainstream' things doesn't make me a fool, I didn't say I ascribe to and blindly believe all the 'normal' things others do. I am in a place where I am struggling myself, I have been going through some really tough things and I am upset that God doesn't want to help things that I think are pretty basic. I believe in God, but I don't know why he is letting such important things go so badly for me.

Shepherd chapel is the real deal wolf in sheep’s clothing. Plenty of extra biblical teaching, it’s a tv ministry so there’s no actual pastoral care, nothing to bother yourself with

 

[charlie]

Are you saying that his lack of esoteric knowledge makes him a satanist? That in order to have faith and to teach faith, one must be initiated with the correct book knowledge?

God himself said, without the correct knowledge, he (and pretty much the whole world) will eventually literally worship satan. Do you want that for you or any of our brothers and sisters? This is the reason why the people ask for the mountains to fall on them, they realize they literally worshipped satan.

 

[charlie]

Shepherd chapel is the real deal wolf in sheep’s clothing. Plenty of extra biblical teaching, it’s a tv ministry so there’s no actual pastoral care, nothing to bother yourself with

Ad hominem attack, you presented absolutely nothing of substance.

 

[charlie]

Did you know the earth is millions of years old? The mainstream Christians will have you think its 6000 years old. Again, another satanic doctrine to make us look like fools that no one can take seriously. I have to admit, it was a great plan that worked. Did you know there was an earth age before this and we are in the second earth age now with a third one to come?

Read on:

In The Beginning: The World That Then Was

The Bible and Creation make complete sense when we realize, God did not create the earth without form and void. Rather, it “became” that way.

worldeventsandthebible.com

 

[sleepson]

Ad hominem attack, you presented absolutely nothing of substance.

Okay, denial of the Trinity

 

[charlie]

Okay, denial of the Trinity

Absolute hogwash. Pastor Murray teaches on the Trinity almost daily. You show your ignorance and unwillingness to do the legwork for yourself and instead read headlines from satanic websites. These attacks can be deflected all day long because they are tired and old and have been tried a million times over, you got nothing.