Just Ate Carrageenan!

Discussion in 'Additives' started by j., Jan 26, 2013.

  1. jaa

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    I haven't noticed any issues with digestion. Adding seaweed to the broth and filtering it seems a lot easier than adding it after the fact. Thanks for the advice!
     
  2. Kelly

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    Interesting, thanks for the info.
     
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    I do that every day. But this time I was out of the house longer than expected and wanted to drink something.
     
  4. kiran

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    I've heard that it's to give the cream a longer shelf life. Perhaps half-and-half generally gets used up pretty quickly.
     
  5. narouz

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    At least you didn't drink this (from Wiki):

    You know, whenever I get a notice for this thread, I think:
    I want a T-Shirt with that on it:
    "F**k! I Just Ate Carrageenan!"
     
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    I used to drink 3 of these a day:

    Frijj Milkshake

    Ingredients
    Skimmed Milk (68%), Whole milk (22%), Sugar, Fat Reduced Cocoa Powder, Buttermilk Powder, Modified Maize Starch, Stabilisers (Carrageenan, Guar Gum)
     
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    :rolling
     
  8. Dutchie

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    I was wondering,since most of you here are big on avoiding PUFA (except for eggs?) why you use cacao?as I understood it converts in the body as PUFA too...
     
  9. narouz

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    This leads me to believe your prognosis is encouraging.
     
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    Haha, I think the effects are probably gone by now. Now I just want a cut of the profits from those shirts you are going to sell...
     
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    Never heard of it, where did you find that? You got a link?
     
  12. Dutchie

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    There was some mumbo jumbo scientific talk about it a while ago at a thread on 180Degrees:

    "Wilfried January 11, 2013

    Hi everyone,

    Just want to add my opinion here regarding palm oil.
    Even if palm oil is 50% saturated fat, like pork fat, there is a biological subtlety linked to the distrubition of fatty acids in the 1,2 and 3 positions of the glycerol.
    The biodisponibility of a fatty acid is maximal when this one is linked to the position 2 of the glycerol.
    In Palm oil, like cocoa butter for example, the unsaturated fatty acids are in the bioavailable position (position 2) whereas, for example, satured fatty acids occupy that position in lard.
    Palm oil as to be considered like an oil which is rich of unsaturated fatty acids like cocoa butter and not like a source of saturated fatty acids because, when ingested and after digestion, palm oil’s saturated fatty acids are mostly evacuated via the bowel due to their position (1 and 3) of the glycerol and their non utilisation by the body.
    And pork fat as to be considered like saturated fat when digested.

    Source: http://lipidlibrary.aocs.org/lipids/tag1/index.htm
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    Wilfried January 11, 2013

    And so, chocolate is not a source of saturated fat, like we think it is, but a source of unsaturated fat….
    But I still love eating chocolate.
    "

    Everyone on sites/forums like these talk so much deep scientific stuff/vocabulary,that I'd think most regular doctors never even pronounced!
     
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    OK, so despite the fact that cocoa butter is 5% PUFA, at most, one should consider it predominantly a source of PUFA? Never heard RP mention that. I think he spoke positively of cocoa butter.
     
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    Does this mean dark chocolate is bad?
     
  15. jaa

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    Or bacon is good?
     
  16. narouz

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    Well, for one thing:
    How much cocoa butter is in cocoa powder?
     
  17. narouz

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    (I imagine we may need a new thread...wherefore art thou, carrageenan!?)
    Just for starters, from this website:

    http://www.allchocolate.com/health/nutrition/fats.aspx



    I think I've heard Peat say that stearic acid was okay.
    I don't remember him ever saying it converted to polyunsaturated fats in the body.
    In fact, I've never heard of the kind of internal conversion at all.
    Of course, on the website above, all good and bad is inverted for us Peatians--PUFA=good, etc.
     

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    I was trying to look up Ray Peat quotes on this. This is the only one I found

     
  19. narouz

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    This is an interesting chart.
    Compare cocoa butter to coconut oil.

    from:http://paleohacks.com/questions/56136/why-dont-people-eat-more-cocoa-butter
     
  20. narouz

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    And we've been focusing on cocoa butter,
    which is not what most of us have much of a dietary interest in.
    Check out some basics of the chocolate making process from Wiki,
    and note how cocoa butter and cocoa solids are separated.
    Cocoa solids becomes cocoa powder.

     
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