Obi-wan
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Sun exposure and high PUFA is not a good idea. Non PUFA Vit E to the rescue...
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Good addIts not about Vit D it's about magnesium. Great thread Want More Progesterone? Increase Magnesium And Decrease Excessive Calcium!
"http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23981518
"RESULTS: High intake of total, dietary or supplemental magnesium was independently associated with significantly reduced risks of vitamin D deficiency and insufficiency respectively. Intake of magnesium significantly interacted with intake of vitamin D in relation to risk of both vitamin D deficiency and insufficiency. Additionally, the inverse association between total magnesium intake and vitamin D insufficiency primarily appeared among populations at high risk of vitamin D insufficiency. Furthermore, the associations of serum 25(OH)D with mortality, particularly due to cardiovascular disease (CVD) and colorectal cancer, were modified by magnesium intake, and the inverse associations were primarily present among those with magnesium intake above the median.
***CONCLUSIONS: Our preliminary findings indicate it is possible that magnesium intake alone or its interaction with vitamin D intake may contribute to vitamin D status.***"
A magnesium deficiency will result in your blood showing a so-called “Vitamin D deficiency”. Taking Vitamin D in this situation will make things much worse, as it will imbalance calcium and magnesium even further."
How much do you take Mr.Kenobi?IdeaLabs has a really cool transdermal called Magnoil. I just started putting it on the back of my neck for various reasons but got a lot more out of it than putting it on the inside of my elbows. Had the best gym workout ever. Increased weights on all exercises. Got hot and thirsty this afternoon after taking it. Wikipedia does not say much about the type used. I think @haidut has a winner!!! Now feel warm and comfortable...
5 drops before the gym., 5 drops after. Maybe 25 drops total for the day at 5 drop increments.How much do you take Mr.Kenobi?
@Travis
if you know of LA metabolism into EDA and more importantly into SCA, I'd be eager to learn some.
Eicosadienoic acid differentially modulates production of pro-inflammatory modulators in murine macrophages
More importantly, what determines the conversion of LA into its metabolites, besides the rare need for more AA.
CLA seems to inhibit LA conversion in a positive way. I had never read anything about EDA+SCA prior to this article. The latter seems interesting. Found in pine trees.
Do you mean huge?"A magnesium deficiency will result in your blood showing a so-called “Vitamin D deficiency”. Taking Vitamin D in this situation will make things much worse, as it will imbalance calcium and magnesium even further." -This is a Hugh statement!
I am, thanks for askingDo you mean huge?
I thought that was spelled wrong. Now we know Arrade is huge...Do you mean huge?
I was given advice which I believe supports this, courtesy of @mmb82, which may be of interest to those reading this thread:"A magnesium deficiency will result in your blood showing a so-called “Vitamin D deficiency”. Taking Vitamin D in this situation will make things much worse, as it will imbalance calcium and magnesium even further." -This is a Hugh statement!
To play devil's advocate, you should not need a vitamin D supplement to raise vitamin D levels, but I would not say it has to do with an infection.
Your body can produce vitamin D from the sun, but it needs certain nutrients to assist with that process. Further, the main function of vitamin D is to increase calcium absorption, so if the body is already saturated with calcium, it may be a protective mechanism of the organism to halt its own vitamin D production and shuttle the vitamin D into the tissues, hence lowering the levels that appear in the blood, as a means to reduce calcium absorption.
Basically, I think a vitamin D deficiency is indicative that you a) may have excess calcium and your body is trying desperately to avoid absorbing more, b) may be deficient in other minerals (boron, magnesium, etc.) that have roles in calcium metabolism and/or vitamin D production, or c) simply just need to go outside more. If you fix these mineral and vitamin imbalances and get proper sun exposure, serum vitamin D levels should be just fine without vitamin D supplementation. Ingesting vitamin D directly will raise your blood levels, but why try to be smarter than your own body and skip the processes in between? You argue that no one takes millions of IUs of vitamin D, but realistically, there is no natural food out there that can give you even 1000 IUs of vitamin D in a single day...at least not that I am aware of. This should be some indication that the body can regulate vitamin D levels itself, provided it has all the tools to do so.
Must be good to spread the doses throughout the day to prevent this:Quantifying the vitamin D economy | Nutrition Reviews | Oxford Academic (edited link)
"Serum D3 has a half-time variously estimated to be in the range of 0.5–3.5 days, with most investigators favoring a value of about 1.0 days. In contrast, D3 produced in skin moves into the blood with a half-time of about 3 days. This means that when skin synthesis is the principal source of D3, serum D3 concentration will be essentially constant around the clock, as D3 input to the blood from the skin (though produced mainly at mid-day) is effectively constant. With oral ingestion, intestinal absorptive input of D3 occurs mainly during a 4-h period following ingestion. (In one study, a TMAX of as much as 12 h was reported.65 As this is well beyond the usual mouth-to-cecum transit time, the 12-h figure, if confirmed, would suggest appreciable colonic absorption, or small bowel mucosal retention, or a delay pool in the intestinal lymphatics.) In any case, assuming a 1.0-day half-time, serum D3 concentration will inevitably follow a sawtooth pattern, particularly if oral ingestion is the principal input." "Under input conditions in excess of daily use, unused D3 will accumulate in fat, and its concentration there would be predicted to damp the oscillations of D3 concentration in serum to some extent."
Regarding the quoted comment, below a certain 25(O and H)D blood level, it's very likely that vit D is deficient, so it makes sense to raise it to the reasonable minimum.
More magnesium...your friend Carolyn of the Deans has it right...Regarding the quoted comment, below a certain 25(O and H)D blood level, it's very likely that vit D is deficient, so it makes sense to raise it to the reasonable minimum.
Foods can provide more than 1000 IU, their content might have been underestimated as discussed in the link of the aboves.