How Would You Counter Iron Overload?

[marko9437]

Would increasing copper to balance/regulate too much iron be feasible? Anything else?

 

[tankasnowgod]

Would increasing copper to balance/regulate too much iron be feasible? Anything else?

Nah. Donate Blood. This has been discussed on the forum ad naseum. Nothing lowers iron more predictably or quicker.

If that's not an option, there are other methods. IP6 seems to work well. Or, you can use calcium channel blockers and aspirin, like E.D. Weinberg does (and he wrote "Exposing The Hidden Dangers of Iron").

Eugene D. Weinberg on Iron Toxicity

A couple of my recent articles have been devoted to the topic of iron and its involvement in many disease states and in aging itself. (See […]

roguehealthandfitness.com

You can also do a low iron diet with milk/dairy and eggs being primary protein sources, as Dr. Fachinni laid out in this experiment-

A low-iron-available, polyphenol-enriched, carbohydrate-restricted diet to slow progression of diabetic nephropathy - PubMed

Diabetic nephropathy has become the leading cause of uremia. Several lines of evidence suggest dietary factors other than protein intake have a substantial role in the progression of diabetic nephropathy to end-stage renal disease. The present investigation was initiated to evaluate whether a...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I don't know why people dream up methods that seem to have little chance of success when there are several proven, safe, and effective methods to choose from from researchers that have been focused on lowering iron for decades. It's like, why not try rectangular tires on your car, too?

 

[marko9437]

Thanks buddy, this seems useful, I'll dig into it.

 

[Jessie]

Coffee, high calcium diet, and aspirin are my main tools to combat iron rich foods. Additionally, increasing the utilization of iron helps, so getting plenty of vitamin A to support it's mobilization, which prevents it from accumulating in the organs, is good too.

A low PUFA diet (no stranger around these parts, lol) will reduce some of the oxidative stress properties to iron as well. Iron becomes really dangerous when it reacts with unstable fatty acids creating more oxidation.

Tbh, if someone is deep into applying Peat's principles, I really don't see how they could be in danger of getting too much iron. If anything, I'd think their iron would probably be on the low side.

 

[tac a wah]

Aspirin , according to Peat can be very helpful. Ray Peat, PhD on Aspirin – Functional Performance Systems (FPS)

 

[equipoise]

Just donate blood really. I donate four times a year and it keeps my iron just where it needs to be.

 

[youngsinatra]

I would donate blood and eat beef liver regularly for proper iron utilization (copper and retinol). I'd take niacinamide and thiamin, because these have been shown to induce mild anemia.
Drinking coffee or something calcium-rich with or after an meat-rich meal could help as well.

 

[peateats1]

Just curious, sorry to hijack the thread, but where should our iron numbers be? Mine is always around 119-130 on a basic cbc blood panel. It just says Iron....119. The reference range is from 37-133. I haven't ever done an iron panel with saturation % etc.

 

[youngsinatra]

Just curious, sorry to hijack the thread, but where should our iron numbers be? Mine is always around 119-130 on a basic cbc blood panel. It just says Iron....119. The reference range is from 37-133. I haven't ever done an iron panel with saturation % etc.

I'd check:
Ceruloplasmin, Copper, Ferritin, Hemoglobin, Iron & TIBC, Transferrin.

Serum Iron doesn't really tell that much about iron status.

 

[peateats1]

I'd check:
Ceruloplasmin, Copper, Ferritin, Hemoglobin, Iron & TIBC, Transferrin.

Serum Iron doesn't really tell that much about iron status.

Will do...thank you!

 

[FitnessMike]

supplementing magnesium should lower iron