Low Toxin Diet Grant Genereux's Theory Of Vitamin A Toxicity

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Can anybody tell me briefly why copper is considered toxic if certain enzymes like MAOA and DAO need copper as a cofactor? I have high serotonin and high histamine and would like to take vitamin c and copper since it helps both of these enzymes to function. Unsure about the copper, would taking the “bioavailable” mito copper keep it from accumulating to toxic levels?

Is it that you actually don’t want to increase DAO? Are histamine reactions actually detox reactions?
If you look up copper hepatotoxicity or Wilson's disease, you will find studies on how copper build up is damaging to health.

That of course does not mean that copper is useless and only toxic but does sow caution on increasing liver copper without knowing how high your present levels are - which would require liver biopsy, which isn't feasible...

You've got to be careful you won't do something that is short term good, long term bad...
 

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Can anybody tell me briefly why copper is considered toxic if certain enzymes like MAOA and DAO need copper as a cofactor? I have high serotonin and high histamine and would like to take vitamin c and copper since it helps both of these enzymes to function. Unsure about the copper, would taking the “bioavailable” mito copper keep it from accumulating to toxic levels?

Is it that you actually don’t want to increase DAO? Are histamine reactions actually detox reactions?
You need a hair test to know what to take. If your sodium/potassium ratio is greater than 2.5 you take zinc only. Lower you take zinc, copper, b6 vitamin c. Zinc lowers s/p copper manganese raise it
 

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Can anybody tell me briefly why copper is considered toxic if certain enzymes like MAOA and DAO need copper as a cofactor? I have high serotonin and high histamine and would like to take vitamin c and copper since it helps both of these enzymes to function. Unsure about the copper, would taking the “bioavailable” mito copper keep it from accumulating to toxic levels?

Is it that you actually don’t want to increase DAO? Are histamine reactions actually detox reactions?
I’ve taken mito copper. Doesn’t work when you need zinc. There used to be a Facebook group for it. This older woman swears on it, but then mentions she takes 50 mg of zinc daily. I won’t say it’s a scam. But there are other types of copper that work fine. They’ll tell you, you need copper 1.
 

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Can anybody tell me briefly why copper is considered toxic if certain enzymes like MAOA and DAO need copper as a cofactor? I have high serotonin and high histamine and would like to take vitamin c and copper since it helps both of these enzymes to function. Unsure about the copper, would taking the “bioavailable” mito copper keep it from accumulating to toxic levels?

Is it that you actually don’t want to increase DAO? Are histamine reactions actually detox reactions?

These enzymes may need copper (at least, they have copper inside them), but there is no evidence that copper actually boosts the enzyme activity.

Controlled experiments with supplemental copper have failed to show an increase in DAO. That's why oxidase enzyme activity is not an accepted marker for copper deficiency.

In fact, supplementing copper does neither affect SOD nor DAO:


The copper requirement appears to be extremely low.

Something is not quite right with copper supplementaiton, since any diet has easily 0.5mg copper, sufficient to meat any needs.

Health does not depend on nutrients or supplements, but on a body free of toxins and a healthy metabolism.
 
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My post of that video was more a curiosity. Does vitamin A have utility because it can help eradicate cancer or is it a poison because it can eradicate cancer, like chemotherapy?
 

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I think the information provided by Thomas Levy on iron in cereals should be taken into account with the new diet experiment Grant just posted:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGbwFtmJOi4



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUjmwTwNCAI

But negative reactions to niacinamide related to the skin indeed seem to be common, for example here or here.

Whether nicotinic acid has the same effect, I don't know.
 
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I think the information provided by Thomas Levy on iron in cereals should be taken into account with the new diet experiment Grant just posted:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGbwFtmJOi4



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUjmwTwNCAI

But negative reactions to niacinamide related to the skin indeed seem to be common, for example here or here.

Whether nicotinic acid has the same effect, I don't know.



Those are oral creams involving niacinamide correct? Also 500mg oral niacinamide does causw acne, not right away but maybe a week after using it daily
 

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You need a hair test to know what to take. If your sodium/potassium ratio is greater than 2.5 you take zinc only. Lower you take zinc, copper, b6 vitamin c. Zinc lowers s/p copper manganese raise it
Whats the purpose of the b6 in there? Does zinc lower the ratio meaning it lowers sodium levels and raises potassium?
 

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Whats the purpose of the b6 in there? Does zinc lower the ratio meaning it lowers sodium levels and raises potassium?
Yea zinc lowers sodium/potassium ratio. There are a few different factors. For instance my last hair test I had a 4.0 s/p. And I was in slow oxidation. That means calcium and magnesium are high, sodium and potassium low. I was taking copper, b6, vitamin c, manganese to raise it. Now I’m taking only zinc. And then taking b vitamins to speed up my oxidation rate. Also some thyroid glandulars. Although right now I feel like I’ve gotten slower. Zinc typically slows it down more. But b vitamins should speed it up.
 

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Not much right now. Literally 90 mg and 45 mg of magnesium oratate. It’s extremely strong. Typically other calcium supplements make me feel like crap. But this type is absorbed into the cell. I have had so much energy lately it’s incredible. It’s almost overwhelming in a good way. Peat is definitely correct about calcium. Plus without getting good quality calcium you absorb a ton of heavy metals. Cadmium, lead, arsenic, etc.
Is that the new cal mag fusion supplement by any chance?
 

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Yes. A million times better than anything endomet.
Nice, are you a slow or fast oxidiser? I was curious about trying it but have doubts it would be good for me as I am a slow oxidiser and I don't need calcium to block my potassium from entering the cells at the moment. But if it is detoxing metals like crazy, which the creator of the supplement is claiming then I am interested to try it possibly.
 

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Nice, are you a slow or fast oxidiser? I was curious about trying it but have doubts it would be good for me as I am a slow oxidiser and I don't need calcium to block my potassium from entering the cells at the moment. But if it is detoxing metals like crazy, which the creator of the supplement is claiming then I am interested to try it possibly.
My recent test I was a slow oxidizer with a high NA/K as I said. I was put on supplements to speed me up and lower NA/K. So zinc. But you always take calcium no matter if you are slow or fast. Calcium is vital for energy production.
 

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My recent test I was a slow oxidizer with a high NA/K as I said. I was put on supplements to speed me up and lower NA/K. So zinc. But you always take calcium no matter if you are slow or fast. Calcium is vital for energy production.
Hmm I do TEI so they are against calcium, personally I have found calcium slows me down and lowers my metabolism (makes colder) and when I focus on potassium rich foods with low calcium intake then my metabolism increases. But I do find calcium to be anabolic and useful for muscle activation for myself and I do find it calming too. Maybe the cal mag fusion would be different for me because it's more bioavailable I don't know.
 

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Hmm I do TEI so they are against calcium, personally I have found calcium slows me down and lowers my metabolism (makes colder) and when I focus on potassium rich foods with low calcium intake then my metabolism increases. But I do find calcium to be anabolic and useful for muscle activation for myself and I do find it calming too. Maybe the cal mag fusion would be different for me because it's more bioavailable I don't know.
Yea it’s complete night and day from regular calcium supplements from what I experienced. Yea getting enough potassium on top of it is very important
 

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I think the information provided by Thomas Levy on iron in cereals should be taken into account with the new diet experiment Grant just posted:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGbwFtmJOi4



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUjmwTwNCAI

But negative reactions to niacinamide related to the skin indeed seem to be common, for example here or here.

Whether nicotinic acid has the same effect, I don't know.

Agreed and the folic acid. It can’t be good to have a fortified food as such a large percentage of his daily diet. That’s just begging for trouble imo. I personally don’t really think we need to be eating anything fortified on a regular basis and found his conclusion that it was niacin while ignoring iron and folic acid a bit of a stretch.
 
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