Dental Cavitations Causing Health Issues?

[dervmai]

@mostlylurking I have had 4 wisdom tooth extractions done by horrible dentists. I don't even want to think back about it because it makes me so angry.

I have suspicions I might have dental cavitations. I read a stat where the cavitation rate is quite high, like 75%. 75% chances over 4 teeth... my chances of a cavitation are high. Where do I even begin? I ask because you seem to know a good amount about dental health including cavitations.

 

[Logan-]

This thread has lots of valuable compiled information:

TOOTHPASTE: FLUORIDATED OR NOT (POLL)

What do you use?

raypeatforum.com

 

[Funnywhensunny]

Get a Conebeam scan by a Biological dentist. If there is infection they use Ozone to disinfect the fossa and PRP to rejuvenate the bone loss.

 

[mostlylurking]

@mostlylurking I have had 4 wisdom tooth extractions done by horrible dentists. I don't even want to think back about it because it makes me so angry.

I have suspicions I might have dental cavitations. I read a stat where the cavitation rate is quite high, like 75%. 75% chances over 4 teeth... my chances of a cavitation are high. Where do I even begin? I ask because you seem to know a good amount about dental health including cavitations.

You need to find a dentist who has the skills and equipment to do the work. Learn the cost of them doing the work by calling them. Find a way to finance the cost. The dentist in the videos is Dr. Nunnally in Marble Falls, Texas. His website is here. You can call them and ask about costs.
Here's a good video:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdDlj74TJeQ

 

[mostlylurking]

@mostlylurking I have had 4 wisdom tooth extractions done by horrible dentists. I don't even want to think back about it because it makes me so angry.

I have suspicions I might have dental cavitations. I read a stat where the cavitation rate is quite high, like 75%. 75% chances over 4 teeth... my chances of a cavitation are high. Where do I even begin? I ask because you seem to know a good amount about dental health including cavitations.

This link will take you to multiple videos on Dr. Nunnally's website.

Here's a short one about cavitations:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6daGnI63XjA&t=2s

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

@mostlylurking I have had 4 wisdom tooth extractions done by horrible dentists. I don't even want to think back about it because it makes me so angry.

I have suspicions I might have dental cavitations. I read a stat where the cavitation rate is quite high, like 75%. 75% chances over 4 teeth... my chances of a cavitation are high. Where do I even begin? I ask because you seem to know a good amount about dental health including cavitations.

I had a bottom from tooth taken out to have braces in my early forties and it left a hole for a long time, which bothered me. I read that chlorella regrows gums and it did the trick for me. I trust the expensive “Sun Chlorella” brand I was taking, but I would be leery of other brands. Maybe wheat grass juice could do the same?

“Drinking wheatgrass juice or taking a wheatgrass supplement helps prevent gingivitis and periodontal disease (gum disease) by eliminating bacteria in your mouth and on your gums. Wheatgrass juice repairs receding gums by supplying nutrients to the tissues and spaces between teeth. Consistent use keeps gums from harboring bacteria, eliminates bad breath and offers your body dozens of other health benefits. Alternative health enthusiasts have discovered how wheatgrass prevents gum disease, and this knowledge can help you avoid tooth loss, bad breath, cavities and keep your smile bright.

Wheatgrass Prevents Gum Disease through Its Chlorophyll Content​

Wheatgrass contains chlorophyll, one of nature’s best remedies for gum diseases and dozens of other health conditions. Chlorophyll has 20 amino acids, B-complex vitamins, potassium, calcium, Vitamin C, Vitamin A, Vitamin E, phytochemicals (carotenoids, flavonoids, growth hormones) and hundreds of enzymes unavailable in other food.

Chlorophyll neutralizes the toxins that inflame gums and loosen teeth. You can drink wheatgrass juice to keep your mouth feeling and looking fresh – plus get all the other benefits of chlorophyll

Wheatgrass prevents gum disease, but it also offers the following health benefits:

• Breaks down carbohydrates into glucose to give you more energy
• Benefits all your body’s cells through oxygenation
• Massages the digestive system to keep you regular
• Keeps you looking younger by promoting healthier hair, nails and skin
• Helps the nervous system by breaking down proteins and fats

Wheatgrass sharpens mental function as well as physical health. With Vitamin B12 and Vitamin B6 and the rest of the B-complex vitamins, it improves your reaction to stress and brightens mood in people prone to mild or moderate non-clinical depression.”

How Wheatgrass Prevents Gum Disease

Most people know that diet and oral hygiene affects more than our teeth, gums and Our dental health (or lack of it) is a good indicator of put overall health. Despite this, over half of Americans age 30 or older has some form of gum disease. Eating fresh fruits and vegetables, giving up junk...

wheatgrasslove.com

 

[mostlylurking]

I had a bottom from tooth taken out to have braces in my early forties and it left a hole for a long time, which bothered me. I read that chlorella regrows gums and it did the trick for me.

Regrowing gums will not fix the bacteria toxicity that is hiding inside the cavitation that is in the bone under the gums.

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

Regrowing gums will not fix the bacteria toxicity that is hiding inside the cavitation that is in the bone under the gums.

Maybe some red light on that area could be helpful…

Red light kills bacteria via photodynamic action - PubMed

With the increase in the number of antibiotic resistant strains of microorganism, the search for alternative treatments of microbial infections becomes all the more important. We report a novel method for bacterial inactivation based on the optical excitation of the naturally occurring...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[dervmai]

Maybe some red light on that area could be helpful…

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[mostlylurking]

Maybe some red light on that area could be helpful…

Red light kills bacteria via photodynamic action - PubMed

With the increase in the number of antibiotic resistant strains of microorganism, the search for alternative treatments of microbial infections becomes all the more important. We report a novel method for bacterial inactivation based on the optical excitation of the naturally occurring...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The toxic dead bone needs to be reamed out (oral surgery) and the resulting hole needs to be filled with the patient's platelets and stem cells so fast healing can take place.

But red light is wonderful and might help alleviate pain if there is any.

 

[L_C]

The toxic dead bone needs to be reamed out (oral surgery) and the resulting hole needs to be filled with the patient's platelets and stem cells so fast healing can take place.

But red light is wonderful and might help alleviate pain if there is any.

I would give charcoal a try.

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

The toxic dead bone needs to be reamed out (oral surgery) and the resulting hole needs to be filled with the patient's platelets and stem cells so fast healing can take place.

But red light is wonderful and might help alleviate pain if there is any.

Progest-E on painful areas works wonders. I had a second degree burn on my leg last year, which had the skin burned off in a whole sheet immediately, and I applied Progest-E to it over the first few days and never felt a thing. It has worked just as well for other burns and pains.

 

[mostlylurking]

Progest-E on painful areas works wonders. I had a second degree burn on my leg last year, which had the skin burned off in a whole sheet immediately, and I applied Progest-E to it over the first few days and never felt a thing. It has worked just as well for other burns and pains.

The problem with bone necrosis is that it is inaccessible to topical treatment.

Yes! Progest-E is great stuff!!

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

The problem with bone necrosis is that it is inaccessible to topical treatment.

Yes! Progest-E is great stuff!!

Ray peat talks about bag breathing, baking soda and a medicine called acetazolamide being good for bone regrow that. Here is part of his e-mail to me…

“Carbon dioxide, in the form of gas or baking soda, helps to strengthen bones, without the side effects of commonly used drugs. The drug acetazolamide which is used for altitude sickness, sleep apnea, and epilepsy, increases the amount of CO2 in the body, and favors bone integrity and reduces pain.

Blood (2017) 130 (Supplement 1): 4376.
Myeloma: Biology and Pathophysiology, excluding Therapy: Poster III| December 7, 2017
Targeting of the Hypoxia-Induced Acid Microenvironment of Multiple Myeloma Cells Increases Hypoxia-Mediated Apoptosis
Gilberto Gastelum, MS, Jeffery Kraut, MD, Aleksandra Poteshkina, BS,Edgar Artiga, MS, Geraldine Weckstein, Patrick Frost, PhD
Abstract
Multiple myeloma (MM) is an incurable disease in which malignant plasma cells engraft within the bone marrow (BM). It is postulated that components of the BM microenvironment provide pro-survival and pro-growth signals to MM cells thereby facilitating their survival and proliferation. Because the BM is known to be hypoxic, we hypothesized that low pO2 activates an adaptive response mediated by hypoxia inducible transcriptional factors (HIFs) that protect MM cells from hypoxia-mediated apoptosis. We recently showed that targeting HIF activity with a polyamide compound (HIF-PA) that targets the hypoxic response element and blocks the ability of HIF to bind to its cognate DNA sequence both inhibits HIF-mediated gene expression and makes MM cells in culture MM xenografts engrafted in the BM of NOG mice sensitive to hypoxia-mediated killing in vitro and. In other tumors, hypoxia leads to acidification of the microenvironment that is a critical factor in their survival and spread. To examine if this is also the case for MM, we exposed a panel of cell lines to severe hypoxia (down to 0.2%) for 48 hrs. This produced a marked acidification of the microenvironment (decrease in pH from ~7.4 to ~6.4) as well as increase in the expression of carbonic anhydrase IX (CA9), a HIF-dependent enzyme important to pH regulation. Moreover, while MM cells are usually resistant to hypoxia-mediated apoptosis, exposure of 8226 MM cells to a specific CA9 inhibitor (acetazolamide) or Na+/H+ transporter inhibitor (amiloride) increased hypoxia-mediated apoptosis by 3-4 fold. Tumor cells are able to sense changes in pO2 levels through the activity of the Pryol-Hydroxylase (PHD1-3) sensing pathways. In particular, PHD3 is a known tumor suppressor gene that is frequently silenced in MM cells (including 8226), and confers resistance to hypoxia by constitutively activating HIF2a. We exogenously re-expressed PHD3 in MM cells and this concomitantly downregulated HIF2a expression in an oxygen-dependent manner and sensitized these cells to hypoxia-mediated apoptosis. Apoptosis was further increased with an acid pH. In addition, HIF-PA treatment of cells cultured under hypoxic and acidic pH (6.8) conditions showed a synergistic increase in apoptosis compared to control cells which was dependent on the PHD3 expression. Re-expression of PHD3 also resulted in an increased sensitivity to both acetazolamide and amiloride, suggesting that inhibiting HIF2a expression is critical for sensitizing MM cells to a low pH. Finally, exposure of MM cells to a low pO2 and acidic pH (6.8) significantly enhanced MM migration as detected with the transwell migration assay; whereas the movement of the MM cells was almost totally inhibited (>80%) by treatment with low concentrations of acetazolamide. The results of these studies support our hypothesis that hypoxic conditions within the BM results in MM-mediated acidification of the tumor microenvironment that facilitates the survival and migration of malignant myeloma cells. Targeting the pathways that lead to acidification of the microenvironment might be a novel and effective primary or ancillary strategy for the treatment of MM.

Aust N Z J Med. 1983 Apr;13(2):163-7.
Multiple myeloma with renal failure. A case for intensive treatment
D C Harris, L S Ibels, R B Ravich, J P Isbister, J V Wells
A series of nine consecutive patients with multiple myeloma and renal failure is presented. All patients were treated with urinary alkalinisation with sodium bicarbonate and/or acetazolamide, diuresis with saline, mannitol and/or furosemide, pulse melphalan and prednisone and, where indicated, allopurinol and aluminium hydroxide. A substantial and sustained improvement in renal function has been achieved in all nine patients. Of five patients with a urea more than 25 mmol/L at presentation, the median survival to date is 64 weeks. Of these patients only one has died --not from renal failure but pneumonia, eighteen months after presentation. The others are alive and well. The results confirm the effectiveness of these measures in both improving renal function and prolonging survival, and suggest a more optimistic prognosis for patients with multiple myeloma and renal failure."-Ray Peat

 

[Kyle970]

@dervmai , what are your suspicions? Any pain/discomfort? Was listening to a dental podcast recently, individual said they they had neither but the scan showed issue. Supposedly when the procedure is done in the first place it is suppose to be ozonated, cleaned up, etc. I'm sure mine was done as sloppy as could be back then, it was a terrible experience as I remember.
Trying to work up the funds/ courage to visit one of the recommended specialist as stated already here and investigate.

 

[dervmai]

@dervmai , what are your suspicions? Any pain/discomfort? Was listening to a dental podcast recently, individual said they they had neither but the scan showed issue. Supposedly when the procedure is done in the first place it is suppose to be ozonated, cleaned up, etc. I'm sure mine was done as sloppy as could be back then, it was a terrible experience as I remember.
Trying to work up the funds/ courage to visit one of the recommended specialist as stated already here and investigate.

I have some pain and slight swelling on one extraction site, the other 3 feel fine. If I put my finger on the extraction sites and feel around, I can feel a divot.

 

[Kimster]

@mostlylurking I have had 4 wisdom tooth extractions done by horrible dentists. I don't even want to think back about it because it makes me so angry.

I have suspicions I might have dental cavitations. I read a stat where the cavitation rate is quite high, like 75%. 75% chances over 4 teeth... my chances of a cavitation are high. Where do I even begin? I ask because you seem to know a good amount about dental health including cavitations.

Yes, take 'Funnywhensunny' advice

 

[mostlylurking]

I have some pain and slight swelling on one extraction site, the other 3 feel fine. If I put my finger on the extraction sites and feel around, I can feel a divot.

If you can feel a divot that means that healthy bone did not fill in the area = the definition of "cavitation". How long has it been since the extractions?

 

[dervmai]

If you can feel a divot that means that healthy bone did not fill in the area = the definition of "cavitation". How long has it been since the extractions?

11 months. The site is still tender and slightly swollen, I have to be careful going over the area when brushing.

 

[mostlylurking]

11 months. The site is still tender and slightly swollen, I have to be careful going over the area when brushing.

You have a problem then. This should be your highest priority.