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Ha! Yes, getting baked would probably work. I don’t know, I think my baked days might be behind me. Though I wish I lived in a legal state to get some sleep-specific indica. I’ve tried CBD, CBN with mixed results. I’m pretty sure the tincture I was getting from the hemp dispensary near me had some THC in it. It helped a little.
I have suffered with insomnia for years and have finally settled on some supplements that help me to sleep and stay asleep. I take Milk Thistle, Magnesium Taurate, sometimes Olive Leaf Extract, sometimes half of a 300mcg Melatonin, tart Cherry, 3 ibuprofen, even Vit D makes me very sleepy.... and most important for me Progesterone.... I use it topically. All of these I take at least an hour before bed.
The salt/sugar is to eat during the night, if you wake up before you’re done with sleeping. It should reduce the 3hrs before you can fall asleep again. You could also try aspirin at the same time. Both should increase the time and quality you sleep once you get back to sleep. You want very easily absorbed calories since any activation of digestion will probably delay falling asleep again. One thing that helped me in that situation in the past was a dropper full of passion flower tincture (reduced back-to-sleep time from ~3hrs down to 45mins), but I don’t think it’s ideal so I would try the other stuff first.
Honestly, not the best. In the mornings, sometimes food seems to run right through me and produces diarrhea. Not every day, but often enough. Also, I don’t feel like I’m getting full elimination when I do go. So overall, could be better. I do the carrot around 4X per week.How is your digestion, @DBCoast?
Ray said this:
“Histamine and serotonin promote wakefulness, and cyproheptadine blocks those, but its other effects aren’t very pleasant. Have you tried diphenhydramine? Endotoxin from intestinal bacteria increases histamine and serotonin; poor digestion is probably the most common cause of insomnia. Avoiding starches is often helpful. Small amounts of some excipients in supplements, and allergens in some foods, can increase the nighttime absorption of endotoxin. The antimicrobial/antiinflammatory effects of cascara can improve sleep; an antibiotic such as tetracycline can reduce the intestinal inflammation.”
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I know a few people besides myself who have had very good results from swallowing a little lidocaine; absorbing it through the skin works too, if you use enough.raypeatforum.com
Ok, thanks. I’ll keep some next to me so I won’t have to get up.
Aspirin is generally preferred to other NSAIDs on here, for the broad spectrum of beneficial effects. I find the effect doesn’t last the whole night if I take it before bed so I tend to save it for the middle of the night if necessary.
TUDCA is best taken during the day after a meal to improve/speed digestion. It is very invigorating and kind of makes me hyper. Best not to take it right before bed IMHO.
Yes, strategies to improve liver health are long-term, not an acute solution.
@DBCoast I think endotoxin/seratonin is behind the 6 hour wake-up... Obviously you have received many many ideas here so I will just throw in what is worked for me. I've struggled with the exact same wake up after 6 hours exactly.....How is your digestion, @DBCoast?
Ray said this:
“Histamine and serotonin promote wakefulness, and cyproheptadine blocks those, but its other effects aren’t very pleasant. Have you tried diphenhydramine? Endotoxin from intestinal bacteria increases histamine and serotonin; poor digestion is probably the most common cause of insomnia. Avoiding starches is often helpful. Small amounts of some excipients in supplements, and allergens in some foods, can increase the nighttime absorption of endotoxin. The antimicrobial/antiinflammatory effects of cascara can improve sleep; an antibiotic such as tetracycline can reduce the intestinal inflammation.”
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I know a few people besides myself who have had very good results from swallowing a little lidocaine; absorbing it through the skin works too, if you use enough.
Thanks, @LadyRae! I believe I actually have some activated charcoal in the cabinet. So it clears out the endotoxin?
Awesome. I will try it. I don’t have anything to lose!
Yes, activated charcoal is great for relieving endotoxin. I like taking it far away from any foods though because otherwise I think it can get constipating. It's really amazing how calm and relaxed I feel about 20 minutes after I take it.
It took a minute to get them adjusted in a way that I don’t feel them. I do something like this.
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